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double walled bowls

updated thu 12 jun 03

 

Ann Brink on mon 9 jun 03


Hi Linda,

I fired a similiar one right side up, because all the rest of it including
the carved top, was glazed. The outer shell rested on 4 points and a crack
developed vertically between 2 of the "feet". Next time I will set it on
grog- or on it's own pancake, to prevent this. Hope this helps.

Ann Brink in Lompoc CA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Christen"

> HI All,
>
> I've got a question about firing double walled bowls.
> I've made one which is open on the bottom and I've done relatively
> intricate Celtic knot carvings through the clay on the flat top section.
> I don't know whether to fire it right side up or upside down.
> Any past experience with firing these bowls would be helpful. I've got
> lots of time into this and don't want to lose it in the firing.
> Thanks!
> Linda
>
>

Linda Christen on mon 9 jun 03


HI All,

I've got a question about firing double walled bowls.
I've made one which is open on the bottom and I've done relatively
intricate Celtic knot carvings through the clay on the flat top section.
I don't know whether to fire it right side up or upside down.
Any past experience with firing these bowls would be helpful. I've got
lots of time into this and don't want to lose it in the firing.
Thanks!
Linda

ASHPOTS@AOL.COM on tue 10 jun 03


I just have to tell you all about the double wall bowl on my wall in my
studio. Had a studio tour a while ago and 2 women walked in and said: wow its a man
pot!.. Of course i had to ask : whats a man pot? She said : well its looks
really deep but its really shallow.

Anyway i did a couple of man pots in demo at Mudfire

Happy firings
Mark

Gary Ferguson on tue 10 jun 03


I've made a few of these type pieces and have pretty good luck firing right
side up. Sometimes I will fire one upside down sitting on top of another
double-walled pot (that is right side up).

I would not fire it upside down directly sitting on the kiln shelf,
especially if there is a variable thickness due to carving.

Gary Ferguson
Raku Clay Artist
Nampa, ID 83687
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Christen"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:08 PM
Subject: double walled bowls


> HI All,
>
> I've got a question about firing double walled bowls.
> I've made one which is open on the bottom and I've done relatively
> intricate Celtic knot carvings through the clay on the flat top section.
> I don't know whether to fire it right side up or upside down.
> Any past experience with firing these bowls would be helpful. I've got
> lots of time into this and don't want to lose it in the firing.
> Thanks!
> Linda
>
>
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Mac and Judi Buchanan on tue 10 jun 03


Linda, I fire many double walled bowls a year and have never fired one
sitting on its carved surface. Logic tells me that is the weakest point and
any drag as it shrinks in firing is going to cause damage. Judi

----- Original Message -----

> I've got a question about firing double walled bowls.
> I don't know whether to fire it right side up or upside down.

Linda Christen on wed 11 jun 03


Hi All,

Thanks for your replies!

I used to make these often. I always fired them upside down because I
closed off the bottom so it was rounded and then made a separate base
for them. I would always raku them upside down too, this way the carved
portion turned a nice deep black.

Since I'm on my own now, with only an electric basement kiln I have to
change my process. Thus, I didn't close off the bottom of this one.
It's my first time even having the option of firing it right side up!
And with the finer, and as Gary pointed out, variable thickness carving
I was concerned about my prior system. I will definitely fire it right
side up.

The "looks deep but is shallow" is a riot, nice to start the day with a
laugh! I'll never look at a double walled bowl the same way again!

Looks like another sunny day in Massachusetts, about time too.

Linda

Beth Ellen Nagle on wed 11 jun 03


Can someone direct me to an image of a double walled bowl? I am having
problems envisioning this.

Beth Ellen Nagle
Oconomowoc, WI.

www.apostate.com/~bethellen


> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for your replies!
>
> I used to make these often. I always fired them upside down because I
> closed off the bottom so it was rounded and then made a separate base
> for them. I would always raku them upside down too, this way the carved
> portion turned a nice deep black.
>
> Since I'm on my own now, with only an electric basement kiln I have to
> change my process. Thus, I didn't close off the bottom of this one.
> It's my first time even having the option of firing it right side up!
> And with the finer, and as Gary pointed out, variable thickness carving
> I was concerned about my prior system. I will definitely fire it right
> side up.
>
> The "looks deep but is shallow" is a riot, nice to start the day with a
> laugh! I'll never look at a double walled bowl the same way again!
>
> Looks like another sunny day in Massachusetts, about time too.
>
> Linda
>
>
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Linda Christen on wed 11 jun 03


Beth,

I'm sorry; I don't have a web page or any photos online to show you.
I've been meaning to do that this summer. I learned how to make them
from Doug Grey (I'm pretty certain that was his name, Mel would know) at
a workshop in Minneapolis run by Mel. He also had an article in Pottery
Making Illustrated about that time. http://www.potterymaking.org/ I
looked for it at their site, but didn't find it. You may have better
luck though.

They are incredibly FUN to throw!

Linda in now raining, again, Massachusetts...


Can someone direct me to an image of a double walled bowl? I am having
problems envisioning this.

Beth Ellen Nagle
Oconomowoc, WI.

www.apostate.com/~bethellen


> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for your replies!
>
> I used to make these often. I always fired them upside down because I
> closed off the bottom so it was rounded and then made a separate base
> for them. I would always raku them upside down too, this way the
carved
> portion turned a nice deep black.
>
> Since I'm on my own now, with only an electric basement kiln I have to
> change my process. Thus, I didn't close off the bottom of this one.
> It's my first time even having the option of firing it right side up!
> And with the finer, and as Gary pointed out, variable thickness
carving
> I was concerned about my prior system. I will definitely fire it
right
> side up.
>
> The "looks deep but is shallow" is a riot, nice to start the day with
a
> laugh! I'll never look at a double walled bowl the same way again!
>
> Looks like another sunny day in Massachusetts, about time too.
>
> Linda
>
>
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