Brian Crocker on thu 12 jun 03
I'm usually a ClayArt lurker but I just have to poke my nose into this =
bit of foolishness.
Having started as an engineering trainee from an early age at General =
Motors in Australia I have been happily "brain washed" with many things =
associated with safety, to the extent that in later years I gained a =
Diploma in Occupational Health and Safety so saving many from accidents.
During this time I witnessed many horrible injuries that can be the =
result of a "Gung ho" attitude toward the careless and unprotected use =
of grinders.
O.K. so many have got away with it and lived to be uninjured and think =
there is a lot of "HooHa" about safety but I and others have seen the =
poor persons who now live their life without sight and I can assure you =
its no fun, just you try it.
You won't have to worry about looking up a Lawyer's phone number because =
you won't be capable of seeing it, you will be fully or partialy blind.
All that and more because you are too "stupid" to put on a $6.00 pair of =
safety glasses and take precautions.
What is of a higher level of "stupidity" is that other potters and new =
people starting out in art will be encouraged take the advice of a "so =
called experienced" person.
Many Potters agree and on seeing the comments on this thread so will the =
many other sane ClayArters.
Artimater I'm sorry for you because the day may come when you "can't =
see" all the beautiful things created in this wonderfull and ancient =
Craft.
=20
chris clarke on thu 12 jun 03
Personally, I think it's Arti's right not to wear safety glasses (not his
right however to encourage others to follow suit which I don't think he
was). Maybe it is a little 'stupid' but they're his eyes. His risk. His
loss.
We all pick and choose the risks we take. My husband thinks I'm crazy
because I'm training in hand to hand combat/self defense (Krav Maga) and
full contact kickboxing. He thinks I'll get hurt. Maybe I will. A fellow
class member just broke his neck. We all know the risks.
I've been training for over a year. It took me that long to wear a mouth
guard consistently. I hate it, I can't breath or chew gum. But now I wear
it. No I didn't loose a tooth or take a shot to the face that made me
change my mind. I just did.
It has nothing to do with stupidity or sanity. It's choices. We should all
choose wisely and know the risks. I would not risk my eyes, my lungs, my
health in the shop. But I'll let a guy a foot taller then me choke me to
the ground to see if I can get out of it (I can by the way). My choice.
In the end it's about knowing your risks and making a conscious choice. And
it sounds to me like Arti has thought it all out, calculated risk as he
said. Not saying he's right just saying he has the right.
chris
butting in.
temecula, california
chris@ccpots.com
http://www.ccpots.com
WHC228@AOL.COM on thu 12 jun 03
The real risk with grinders that I see in clay studios is people not
protecting themselves from the dust tat comes when grinding ceramic materials. It is
silica and it is sharp. It will slowly kill you, or worse make you into a
wheezing invalid, barely able to walk even a few steps without coughing and
puffing. I am watching a friend die of silicosis, and it isn't pretty. [His smoking
didn't help him either]
John Rodgers on fri 13 jun 03
I've a friend who is a jeweler, and for years he ran buffing machines
with jewelers rouge and other buffing compounds and no ventilation, no
masks. His doctor told him recently his lungs looked as if he has "black
lung" disease, a disease of coal miners of old (maybe even today). The
forecast for him is grim. All because of failure to observe reasonable
and proper safety precautions.
John Rodgers
Birmingham, AL
WHC228@AOL.COM wrote:
>The real risk with grinders that I see in clay studios is people not
>protecting themselves from the dust tat comes when grinding ceramic materials. It is
>silica and it is sharp. It will slowly kill you, or worse make you into a
>wheezing invalid, barely able to walk even a few steps without coughing and
>puffing. I am watching a friend die of silicosis, and it isn't pretty. [His smoking
>didn't help him either]
>
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Debi Wichman on fri 13 jun 03
Amen...... Cumulative effects don't get much thought when we are strong and
able, but we owe it to ourselves and our loved ones to work for a good
quality of life as we age. This means taking stock of long and short term
risks.....Death is not always the worst that can happen.
Debi (who at 47 hopes to still play in the mud at 90)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers"
To:
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Risk taking with a grinder.
> I've a friend who is a jeweler, and for years he ran buffing machines
> with jewelers rouge and other buffing compounds and no ventilation, no
> masks. His doctor told him recently his lungs looked as if he has "black
> lung" disease, a disease of coal miners of old (maybe even today). The
> forecast for him is grim. All because of failure to observe reasonable
> and proper safety precautions.
>
> John Rodgers
> Birmingham, AL
>
> WHC228@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> >The real risk with grinders that I see in clay studios is people not
> >protecting themselves from the dust tat comes when grinding ceramic
materials. It is
> >silica and it is sharp. It will slowly kill you, or worse make you into a
> >wheezing invalid, barely able to walk even a few steps without coughing
and
> >puffing. I am watching a friend die of silicosis, and it isn't pretty.
[His smoking
> >didn't help him either]
> >
>
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melpots@pclink.com.
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