Roger Korn on wed 18 jun 03
Who makes Seraset? A Google search on seraset comes up with nada.
Thanks in advance,
Roger
John Britt wrote:
>We sometimes coat our soft door bricks in a mix of:
>
>75% seraset (high temperature mortar)
>25% alumina hydrate
>
>...
>
>
>John Britt
>Penland Clay
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Paul Herman on wed 18 jun 03
Hello Lee,
The coating sounds good. I've always thought we could make our own. I
think ITC and some of the other newer coatings are mainly Zircon based,
with some refractory cement. Do any of you Clayartors know more about
Zircon coatings?
I have been using an old product from AP Green called 'Greencoat". It
came along with a bunch of bricks I bought, so there is no need for me
to make my own.
Our posts are just dipped in wash on the ends, and are usually wadded on
both top and bottom. The wads are easy to knock off after firing.
Good Burning,
Paul Herman
Great Basin Pottery
423-725 Scott Road
Doyle, California 96109 US
potter@psln.com
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>From: Lee Love
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Coating On Softbrick
>Date: Tue, Jun 17, 2003, 5:13 PM
>
> Hey, for kiln stilts in your woodfiring, do you just coat the ends in
> kiln wash or the whole prop?
>
>
> ~~~~~~~Lee In Mashiko, Japan http://hachiko.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John Britt on wed 18 jun 03
We sometimes coat our soft door bricks in a mix of:
75% seraset (high temperature mortar)
25% alumina hydrate
This is mixed to the consistency of skim milk and the soft bricks are
completely submerged for a second. They are then allowed to dry on two
thin pieces of wood. (so they don't get scared).
They are then used in a wood kiln which is salted. This gives each brick
much more strengh and it is highly resistant to the salt. We have used
the last set for two years (25 firings) and they are only now beginning to
show wear.
And the soft bricks are not crumbling or cracking in half like they
normally do when they are under weight.
(If you want you can send me $130 for every gallon you mix up. That will
make it reflect more heat and increase fuel efficiency too. Just kidding,
in case you did not know. )
John Britt
Penland Clay
Tony Ferguson on wed 18 jun 03
Paul,
Cool kiln. Please send some larger pics.
Ap Green has a product (MaCoat or something like that) that is 95% Zirconium
silicate with 5% binder. A variety of people are testing in including myself
(next firing). It is suppose to be equivalent to ITC but less expensive.
Tony
Thank you.
Tony Ferguson
On Lake Superior, where the sky meets the Lake
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Apt 312
Duluth, MN 55806
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Herman"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: Coating On Softbrick
> Hello Lee,
>
> The coating sounds good. I've always thought we could make our own. I
> think ITC and some of the other newer coatings are mainly Zircon based,
> with some refractory cement. Do any of you Clayartors know more about
> Zircon coatings?
>
> I have been using an old product from AP Green called 'Greencoat". It
> came along with a bunch of bricks I bought, so there is no need for me
> to make my own.
>
> Our posts are just dipped in wash on the ends, and are usually wadded on
> both top and bottom. The wads are easy to knock off after firing.
>
> Good Burning,
>
> Paul Herman
> Great Basin Pottery
> 423-725 Scott Road
> Doyle, California 96109 US
> potter@psln.com
>
> ----------
> >From: Lee Love
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Coating On Softbrick
> >Date: Tue, Jun 17, 2003, 5:13 PM
> >
>
> > Hey, for kiln stilts in your woodfiring, do you just coat the
ends in
> > kiln wash or the whole prop?
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~Lee In Mashiko, Japan http://hachiko.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
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Lee Love on wed 18 jun 03
I just wanted to share a tip I picked up here on ClayArt, from my friend in
New London, Craig Edwards.
I didn't have time to order ITC when I was building my kiln. Craig
told me via private email, that he brushed a mixture of kaolin and alumina
hydrate on the softbrick inside his Anagama and it works to protect the
softbrick from the flames and volatiles in the wood firing. I mixed up a 60%
Alumina Hyd. 40% Korean Kaolin batch and sprayed it on the walls of the inside
of my woodkiln with a compressor spray gun. I sprayed the walls and only
the ceiling over the fire entrance and also where the door bricks go (I didn't
want flaking from the roof, if the mixture didn't hold. After the bisque
firing, as one might expect, the mixture would rub off if you brushed it with
your hand. After the bisque, I put another coat on. It has effectively
sealed the surface of the softbricks pretty well and won't brush off after the
glaze firing. I put a third coat on before my second glaze firing and it took
pretty well.
I'll let you know how it weathers as the firings go by. In Euan's kiln
(same desgin as mine), his softbrick show weathering where the flame enters the
ware chamber and also at the ceiling, where the softbrick meets the door. I
think this coating will give the interior softbrick a longer service life.
Hey, for kiln stilts in your woodfiring, do you just coat the ends in
kiln wash or the whole prop?
~~~~~~~Lee In Mashiko, Japan http://hachiko.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* *
* Upon the creatures we have made, we are, ourselves, *
* at last, dependent. *
~~~~~~~~~~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Donn Buchfinck on thu 19 jun 03
saraset
used to be made by AP GREEN
now Harbison-Walker refractories
1-800-887-5555
1-510-236-7415
Donn
Dannon Rhudy on thu 19 jun 03
Roger said:
> Who makes Seraset? A Google search on seraset comes up with nada.
>
Roger, I believe that that is spelled "sairset". I found several listings
by Google search.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Snail Scott on thu 19 jun 03
At 07:49 PM 6/18/03 -0700, you wrote:
>A Google search on seraset comes up with nada.
It's spelled Sairset; many clay suppliers stock it.
-Snail
Michelle Lowe on thu 19 jun 03
I believe it is spelled properly- Sairset
At 07:49 PM 6/18/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Who makes Seraset? A Google search on seraset comes up with nada.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Roger
>
>John Britt wrote:
>
>>We sometimes coat our soft door bricks in a mix of:
>>
>>75% seraset (high temperature mortar)
>>25% alumina hydrate
>>
>>...
>>
>>
>>John Britt
>>Penland Clay
>>
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
>>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>>
>
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>Roger Korn
>McKay Creek Ceramics
>In AZ: PO Box 463
> 4215 Culpepper Ranch Rd
> Rimrock, AZ 86335
> 928-567-5699 <-
>In OR: PO Box 436
> 31330 NW Pacific Ave.
> North Plains, OR 97133
> 503-647-5464
>
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John Britt on thu 19 jun 03
Roger,
Sorry I spelled it wrong. It should have been
Sairset. Try Marc Ward at Ward Burners. Exert from catalogue:
Mortars
Sairset is a wet, high temperature, air setting mortar that is an
excellent trowleing mix to bond fiber, brick, and metal. Made with
colodial silica to provide stickiness. Apply in thicknesses under 1/8".
15 lb pail.....$ 25.00 50 lb pail......$ 62.50
Greenpatch 421 is very similar to SAIRSET but can be used in any thickness
to bond, fill, or coat. Comes wet and ready to trowel.
15 lb pail.....$ 25.00 50 lb pail.....$ 62.50
Sairbond is a high alumina dry mortar with much the same working & firing
characteristics as the wet mortars. It is ready to use immediately after
mixing with water. As Sairbond is a dry material, there is no waiting for
thawing in cold weather. Sairbond does not contain a colodial silica so it
does not have the stickiness of the wet mortars. It is better suited to
bonding brick to brick.
50 lb bag......$ 47.50
John Britt
Michael Wendt on thu 19 jun 03
Roger,
I think John means Sairset and I know from your past posts that you are well
acquainted with it.
Sometimes spelling matters.
Regards,
Michael Wnetd... oops Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Avenue
Lewiston, Idaho 83501
1-208-746-3724
wendtpottery.com
Quote:Who makes Seraset? A Google search on seraset comes up with nada.
Thanks in advance,
Roger
John Britt wrote:
>We sometimes coat our soft door bricks in a mix of:
>
>75% seraset (high temperature mortar)
>25% alumina hydrate
>
Vince Pitelka on fri 20 jun 03
> Who makes Seraset? A Google search on seraset comes up with nada.
Roger and John -
Do you meain Sairset? It is the old APGreen standard HT mortar.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
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