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when the lid's too big

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Mary White on mon 7 jul 03


Talk here has been pretty technical lately (whiting reactivity, etc.)
so I figure it's time for a newbie question.

I've heard it said often that it's better that the lid be too big
than too small because then you can do something about it. The
question is, what?

If I just eyeball it and sand it it will be like sawing off the table
leg, eventually the lid might be round again but it will be too
small. It's a big too big to just rotate into the gallery until it
fits. Is there a way to automate the sanding using the wheel?

Mary

Charles Moore on mon 7 jul 03


Mary,

If your lid is a flat lid, you can center it on your wheel (with some
moisture underneath) and trim.

If it is a lid with a flange that fits into the vessel, you can sometimes
center and hold in place with small dabs of clay or a Giffen Grip and trim.

I don't have a method for decreasing the size of a domed lid that fits on
top of the pot's gallery. I confess: I sometimes make more than one dome
lid to fit the pot. The extra domes can become bowls, or they can wait for
the next pot with a similar size gallery.

I suspect that you will get a number of very helpful answers that will teach
me some new tricks.

Luck.

Charles
Sacramento
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary White"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:12 PM
Subject: When the lid's too big


> Talk here has been pretty technical lately (whiting reactivity, etc.)
> so I figure it's time for a newbie question.
>
> I've heard it said often that it's better that the lid be too big
> than too small because then you can do something about it. The
> question is, what?
>
> If I just eyeball it and sand it it will be like sawing off the table
> leg, eventually the lid might be round again but it will be too
> small. It's a big too big to just rotate into the gallery until it
> fits. Is there a way to automate the sanding using the wheel?
>
> Mary
>
>
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Earl Brunner on mon 7 jul 03


You can throw a temporary chuck out of wet clay that the domed lid can
be inverted over and will stick to easily for trimming.

I have heard of some potters only making lids and galleys a certain size
to reduce production time. (one size fits all) They might produce
three or four standard sizes, with a little experimentation and
experience they can get them to generally fit all of the time. Plus the
lids can be somewhat interchangeable. This can eliminate or reduce the
problem of keeping track of each individual lid and pot.a

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Charles
Moore
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:14 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: When the lid's too big

Mary,


I don't have a method for decreasing the size of a domed lid that fits
on
top of the pot's gallery. I confess: I sometimes make more than one
dome
lid to fit the pot. The extra domes can become bowls, or they can wait
for
the next pot with a similar size gallery.

I suspect that you will get a number of very helpful answers that will
teach
me some new tricks.

Luck.

Charles
Sacramento

Elca Branman on mon 7 jul 03


I've occasionally(in the past, really, really, ) made a non flanged lid
smaller by rubbing it on a cement floor, and then rounding the edges back
again.

Please, please don't tell those Japanese trained potters that I did
this,

Elca(an alias, I swear)

Elca Branman

http://elcabranman.com

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:13:45 -0700 Charles Moore
writes:
> Mary,
>
> I don't have a method for decreasing the size of a domed lid that
> fits on
> top of the pot's gallery. > Charles
> Sacramento
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary White"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:12 PM
> Subject: When the lid's too big
>
>
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 8 jul 03


Hi Mary,

At what phase of the process do you find a Lid is (or is
going to be) too big?

If at the leather hard or 'bone-dry' stage of things, one
may, with some chuck extempore, do a little trimming of the
Lid to ammend matters.

As a newbie, or as anyone confronted with this problem, one
may make simple soft 'chucks' out of any handy throwing
Clay, as make a 'Bagel' say, put some 'Saran Wrap' or the
like on it so your piece does not stick or absorb moisture
and deteriorate, and, with some sharp Tool, trim the Lid to
where you want it.

Have you tried that?


Regards!

Phil
lasvegas


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary White"

> Talk here has been pretty technical lately (whiting
reactivity, etc.)
> so I figure it's time for a newbie question.
>
> I've heard it said often that it's better that the lid be
too big
> than too small because then you can do something about it.
The
> question is, what?
>
> If I just eyeball it and sand it it will be like sawing
off the table
> leg, eventually the lid might be round again but it will
be too
> small. It's a big too big to just rotate into the gallery
until it
> fits. Is there a way to automate the sanding using the
wheel?
>
> Mary

Paul Gerhold on tue 8 jul 03


Mary,
Buy a small belt sander. Works really welll for cutting down lids.
Paul

Roger Korn on tue 8 jul 03


Ryobi, now owned by Home Despot, makes a great, inexpensive 3x21 belt
sander that can sit upside down
on a workbench, thus functioning as a "stationary" tool as well. I use
it for grinding glaze from feet, sharpening
tools, and also as a sander for wood. Hook up a vacuum cleaner to the
dust discharge tube and it is TOTALLY
dust free - important to me because my wayward work habits when young
have left me sensitive and allergic
to most dusts in my old age.

Hope this helps,
Roger, no connection.......

Paul Gerhold wrote:

>Mary,
>Buy a small belt sander. Works really welll for cutting down lids.
>Paul
>
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