psci_kw on sat 26 jul 03
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From:
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Large platters for Hanging
> Hi Joyce,
>
> The foot-ring may be made to accomidate a wire being tied
> around it...from which it may hang as one wishes...
>
> A foot-ring as already exists would have to be looked at to
> see if it will accept a wire being brought around it...if
> the ring has some inward slant or other to it...
>
> Phil
> Las Vegas
>
Phil:
What about adding a coil to the foot ring, and throwing it taller so that a
hole could be punched in it for the wire to be attached, or maybe just
"pieces of a foot added to make it taller for the same purpose, like putting
feet on a footring....ooh my...gotta run and check this out...feet on a
footring ! Damn! See what you did? You've let my muse loose again! {:>D
Wayne in Key West
psci_kw on sat 26 jul 03
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joyce Lee"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: Large platters for Hanging
I'm in the process of designing some large platters
to be hung on a lattice fence section just outside
our front patio. The fence is strong and sturdy, built
to hide swamp cooler/airconditioner. The platters
are slightly smaller than a snow pan (round, used by
sons for "sledding" down sand dunes in Panamint
Valley). I made a few a couple years ago but made
them too thin, which led to their demise (you Can get
too thin, it seems). They were never installed on
the fence.
Now I have a couple I think might make it ... thicker,
better formed. BUT, since these are curved platters,
more like very large, very shallow bowls .... does
anybody have suggestions for hanging them?
I've never even noticed how hanging
attachments
are added to shapes of that dimension. I've seen
Tom Coleman's much larger&heavier platters
but was so
entranced by the composition of slipped forms
and line drawings he used as
decoration (exquisite line drawings!)
that I neglected to peer at their backs.
Your advice will be heeded; if these platters (?)
don't make it, I'll handbuild others.
Joyce
In the Mojave where the westie is irate at a cook
on tv who is creating some sort of sauce which
he rightful calls Moho ..... spelled mojo..... and keeps
correcting others who say Mojo... no "h" sound....
j as in Joyce.......
Every time he utters
Mojo (the westie's nickname), she barks
and does her grizzly growl at his image ....
AND would you believe it?
The fence man from a rather large company not
far from us (maybe 30 trucks; works about 100
miles or further in each direction) came today,
walked the thousand or so feet of fencing to be
sure there are no other holes nor attempts to dig
under,
fixed the large hole
that the big black lab punched through to get to
our scrub acreage ... AND said that "because our
minimum charge is $225.00 .... AND because I
can't charge you $225.00 for ten minutes work....
it's FREE." I didn't even think to offer him a pot,
I was so flabbergasted......
I do have a lot of pots available but never think
they're good enough to give away. Dave
F. is right .... I need to quit fussing about the
poor quality of my work. When he said so, I
gave him a bunch of lip about blahblahblah (PrimalM
and I speak the same first language) but I knew
he was right... and he knew he was right.... and
so do you.
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Joyce:
Check this month's PMI. In it are shown two ways for hanging large
platters. One is a loop of clay attached to the back in position (like a
horizontal handle) so as not to disturb the ability of the plate to sit flat
against the table (or hang flat on the fence). The other method is to drill
a hole about 1/2 inch in from the rim.
Since you menioned that these are to be snowsaucer sized (!!), I would guess
that the hanging loop of clay might be your best bet. Perhaps if you want
to mount them permanently, you could consider a hole in the exact center of
the plate, into which a large screw or lag bolt could be used to mount them
to the fence. A small, shallow "saucer" glued over it to hide/cover it
might be able to be part of the design.
Hope that helps,
Wayne in Key West
Dannon Rhudy on sat 26 jul 03
Joyce asked:
......large platters
> to be hung on a lattice fence section >
> Now I have a couple .... does
> anybody have suggestions for hanging them?.......>>>>.
Joyce, there are a lot of ways to hang large platter
forms. If the piece has a foot, drill two holes about
a couple inches apart in the foot ring. After firing,
you can run a wire through for hanging. If there is
not any foot, then you can add a couple of sturdy
loops to the back, and flatten them slightly, leaving
room after firing to run a wire or other hanger through.
However, since these are made for hanging, and outdoors
at that - why don't you just find a good place, drill a couple
of holes right through the piece. Side by side, not too far
apart. Or however far apart you would like them to be.
After firing, run a nice thick copper wire through the whole
thing, it becomes part of your design. And copper is soft
enough to be no trouble. Yeah. Go for that.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Snail Scott on sat 26 jul 03
At 05:53 PM 7/25/03 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm in the process of designing some large platters
>to be hung on a lattice fence section just outside
>our front patio... does
>anybody have suggestions for hanging them?
The best mounting system is one that is integral to the
clay, if possible. If you must add hardware, it should
be 'hooked into' the clay, such that the force of the
hanging object is still directed mostly into the clay,
not pulling away from it. If these platters have a foot,
when you make the foot, add a clay flange across the top
side, inside the arc of the foot (like it was a chord
of the circle - remember high school geometry?) Put a
hole (maybe 1/2" at most) into that flange. Then just
hang it on an angled nail. For extra security against
high wind and casual light fingers, take a bit of wire
(braided picture-hanging wire is great) and run it through
the hole (or make two holes) and twist the loop around
the nail (or a second close-by nail). This 'leash' will
be just long enough to allow you to twist it around the
nail. Then hang the platter on its weight bearing nail,
hiding the leash behind it. It will catch the piece if
high winds or earthquake knock it off the nail, letting
it dangle a few inches lower than it started rather than
hitting the ground, and although it's not thief-proof,
it does require a little more time and effort to detach.
(It can be made more secure by using lightweight steel
cable, and crimping those solid-metal cable crimps at
each end - a loop around a hole in the platter flange,
and a loop tight enough to not slide over the nailhead
on the fence side. Then they'll need tools to remove it.
If your clay body is not strong (earthenware; whatever)
you can reinforce the flange by gluing a piece of drilled
aluminum angle stock under the flange to reinforce it and
distribute the force of the nail. It still needs the
clay flange, though. The force still needs to go through
the clay. Do not just glue a bracket flat to the back -
it may pull loose. The weight of the piece must push down
on the nail, NOT pull on it! Compression is stronger than
tension!
-Snail
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