Milla Miller on mon 28 jul 03
Does anyone know what will best rid the burnt smell, aside from fans from a
burned building[the studio- from the fire- NOT a kiln firing] ? I am trying to
shovel and rake thecharred debree but the smell is awful and all my clothes
and person smell soooo bad it nearly makes me ill.Any way to rid of that
burnt smell??? HACK HACK HACK
Margaret in Columbia,SC
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on mon 28 jul 03
Hi Margaret,
If memory serve...
Apple Cider Vinegar ( dilute somewhat with Water...)
sponged...
Or too...'Real-Lemon' reconstituted Lemon Juice...(try the
places Restaurants buy bulk sizes...)
Regimines similar to those for remediation of Skunk...
Also...
'Pine-sol' I think too...
Maybe 'Listerine'...
Certainly Turpentine...
Try 'em and see...that's what I'd do.
...or try one...follow it up with the 'Pine-Sol' or
similar...
The grease-base of various soots is the difficulty as
well...some of which will respond well to one thing, some to
another...
I too had a (smaller than yours) fire one time...(a modern
Mattress...ugh!) and I forget now what I scrubbed everything
down with, but it was one or some of the above. The
lingering smell and wall soot-stain-tint were quite
unpleasant...but I got 'em tidy'd up.)
Best wishes!
Phil
Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Milla Miller"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: my fire
> Does anyone know what will best rid the burnt smell, aside
from fans from a
> burned building[the studio- from the fire- NOT a kiln
firing] ? I am trying to
> shovel and rake thecharred debree but the smell is awful
and all my clothes
> and person smell soooo bad it nearly makes me ill.Any way
to rid of that
> burnt smell??? HACK HACK HACK
> Margaret in Columbia,SC
>
>
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Larry Kruzan on mon 28 jul 03
Hi Margaret,
I would suggest that you just assign some special coveralls to this job -
ones you can throw away afterwards. It just isn't worth the effort to try
to get those clean after a fire cleanup - the stink stays - I know. I had a
fire two years ago in my woodworking shop and we tried it all.
As for cleaning your floors walls and Ceiling - call a steamcleaner - we
used 'Stanley Steamer' here and they got a LOT CLEAN and fast, but the stink
was still mostly there. After everything dried very good we painted
everything with 'Bins', a shellac based primer, make sure you use the
shellac based not water based one. It is best sprayed but it can be
brushed, I did spray it because brushing seem to mix it with soot. By now
things will be getting more tolerable so do the floor with an good two part
epoxy based garage floor paint. This should leave you with a painted and
sealed space all ready for your new tools.
I'm so sorry for your situation and I hope you can get back to work very
soon.
Our prayers are with you,
Larry Kruzan
Pekin, IL
psci_kw on mon 28 jul 03
----- Original Message -----
From: "Milla Miller"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:10 PM
Subject: my fire
> Does anyone know what will best rid the burnt smell, aside from fans from
a
> burned building[the studio- from the fire- NOT a kiln firing] ? I am
trying to
> shovel and rake thecharred debree but the smell is awful and all my
clothes
> and person smell soooo bad it nearly makes me ill.Any way to rid of that
> burnt smell??? HACK HACK HACK
> Margaret in Columbia,SC
Margaret:
That is what I do for a living (our latest job was cleaning up tear gas
residue, don't ask) :>( ...it is hot, miserable work, especially this time
of year, and you are also dealing with the stress of having had it happen to
YOU, so take your time, and don't let yourself get overwhelmed. Little by
little.
Do NOT enter that space again until you have done the following:
Put as many fans as you can lay your hands on into window and door spaces to
create a cross ventilation, and let them run 24 hours at least. Better to
let them run continuously.
Find your local janitorial supply service and buy a few pair of coveralls
made from TYVEK, and wear only those over your underwear. You might be able
to find them at a paint store or hardware. They come in all sizes, in white
(no, not see-through). Yes, they are long sleeve, and long pants. WEAR
THEM! No open toed shoes, either. You're trying to protect yourself, not win
a fashion show (sorry, it's what I tell my employees:>)
Wear gloves! Wear a good quality face mask, or better yet a respirator if
you can (perhaps) borrow one from your local Fire Dept. Ash and char are
carcinogens! Not to mention burned plastics, canvas, and the host of other
things you described as having burned.
Talk to your local janitorial supply and ask if they can get you a few cans
of something called "Fire-D". It is an aerosol bomb type spray can that you
set off in the burned area. It makes everything smell like bubblegum. It
works great. You might need more than one can, depending on how much char
there is, and how large the area is you have to treat. There is NO
substitute for that stuff, BTW. It's made by a company called Big D.
For yourself, make sure that you bathe immediately when exiting the area
after a few hours. Your skin absorbs the smell, and the toxins in the air.
Sweating is a GOOD thing, in this case. The more you sweat, the less your
skin absorbs. Drink lots of fluid.
Any good dishwashing detergent, like Joy, or Palmolive or even Dawn will
help rid your skin of the smell and crud. Afterward, use your regular body
wash or soap, and follow with a good moisturizer, because the detergent will
suck the natural oils out of your skin. Keep your hair covered with a cap
or light hat. "Stuff" will fall from the ceiling.
If there is any other way I can help please let me know.
Wayne in Key West
Charnley McCrorey on tue 29 jul 03
Does anyone know what will best rid the burnt smell, aside
from fans from a burned building.
Had two fires in a house I lived in, one chimney and one studio, in a six
month period. For getting stink off of you, use Dawn dishwashing liquid, gets it
out of clothes too. To get it off the surfaces try powdered Tide without
bleach. It somehow lifts it from the surfaces.
Once you have the worst of it cleaned up and the smell is manageable, if you
can afford it get the ozone cleaners to come in and clean the rest of it off.
Kilz the surfaces that can be painted after that. it covers most of the
smell, after a while you stop noticing it though.
I am still finding soot in odd places, 5 years, 2 houses and one studio
later, I open a box, or lift a lid that holds a seldom used tool and come away
with soot on my hands. A fire is devastating and I wish you luck. I have great
mercy for you.
Charnley
Laughing Lion Productions
mercy lang on wed 30 jul 03
I had a bad kitchen fire a few years back. We got Service Master(chain) to take ccare of it. They washed all the walls and furniture and they put in an ionic air purifier for about a week. They did all the cleaning with this product called odo ban(Sam's Club). Thanks to that experience I bought an ionic air purifier myself for the house and I use that odoban everytime I clean since it leaves the house smelling new. Hope this helps- mercy
Charnley McCrorey wrote:Does anyone know what will best rid the burnt smell, aside
from fans from a burned building.
Had two fires in a house I lived in, one chimney and one studio, in a six
month period. For getting stink off of you, use Dawn dishwashing liquid, gets it
out of clothes too. To get it off the surfaces try powdered Tide without
bleach. It somehow lifts it from the surfaces.
Once you have the worst of it cleaned up and the smell is manageable, if you
can afford it get the ozone cleaners to come in and clean the rest of it off.
Kilz the surfaces that can be painted after that. it covers most of the
smell, after a while you stop noticing it though.
I am still finding soot in odd places, 5 years, 2 houses and one studio
later, I open a box, or lift a lid that holds a seldom used tool and come away
with soot on my hands. A fire is devastating and I wish you luck. I have great
mercy for you.
Charnley
Laughing Lion Productions
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John Baymore on fri 1 aug 03
mercy .
Thanks to that experience I bought an ionic air purifier myself for the
house and I use that odoban everytime I clean since it leaves the house
smelling new.
For fire cleanup.... I am sure that the ionic purifier was a great help t=
o
rid the place of the smell and some types of potential toxins. But for d=
ay
to day living in the space....... I'd check out the information from the
HEALTH professionals about these things. There is a lot of info that say=
s
that they are bad for you. It has been discussed here....check the
archives. It also is in a lot of other places.
Just a possible caveat....... caveat emptor.
best,
..................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086-5812 USA
JBaymore@compuserve.com
http://www.JohnBaymore.com
603-654-2752 (studio)
800-900-1110 (studio)
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop: August 15-24,
2003"
mercy lang on fri 1 aug 03
John- I bought an ionic air purifier from sharper image. It has two blades and when it starts making little sounds it means time to clean the blades. Before I bought it I read all the pro and cons and decided to give it a try. The best purchase I've ever made. YOu should see the type of dirt it traps- it looks like tar. I like to keep a super clean house and just feel so much better knowing that I'm not breathing all that junk. I have a smaller model that I change around the house and will soon buy a bigger model and take this one to the studio. You know it has a 30 day return policy so anyone that's not sure-you can try it and if n ot pleased just take it back. For me , it's the best and I think it's their best seller(read that somewhere)
John Baymore wrote:mercy .
Thanks to that experience I bought an ionic air purifier myself for the
house and I use that odoban everytime I clean since it leaves the house
smelling new.
For fire cleanup.... I am sure that the ionic purifier was a great help to
rid the place of the smell and some types of potential toxins. But for day
to day living in the space....... I'd check out the information from the
HEALTH professionals about these things. There is a lot of info that says
that they are bad for you. It has been discussed here....check the
archives. It also is in a lot of other places.
Just a possible caveat....... caveat emptor.
best,
..................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086-5812 USA
JBaymore@compuserve.com
http://www.JohnBaymore.com
603-654-2752 (studio)
800-900-1110 (studio)
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop: August 15-24,
2003"
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