Milla Miller on tue 29 jul 03
That thread was why I had not unplugged the kiln as I had read that.This sure
gets confusing.I did have fewer recepticles than kilns and thought having
the breakers right at the recepticles as well as at the very nearby box would
make it ok.I also had checked my plug and area for wear and noticed nothing
when I fired last and had no signs of any problems.
I apologize to the list about my messy bad post and was under more stress
than I realized writing it as it was dawning on me that I do not have the
ressources to build back the building for the kilns much less replace the stuff.
Yes,I said myself I am aware the loss was not to family and that makes one
always thankful.However ,I only shared the entire event with the list as I
have no one else who gives a d--.and thought only a potter might appreciate the
loss and setback and anguish this causes, especially when one tries to avoid
careless accidents to faithfully.
Just to say I hope this NEVER happens to any of you and hoping my sharing
will cause some rethimking that might save others my grief and more.
I have no support system here even though I have done all I know to
establish one throughout my long career in clay.Clayart sseems to be it.One learns a
lot about life and one's self when the cards are down.
Margaret
In a message dated 7/29/2003 8:20:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
wschran@EROLS.COM writes:
> Will repeated removal of the plug make
> the outlet contacts loose and contribute to heating/melting/fire?
> I've replaced all of the outlets and 2 plugs/cords on our kilns at
> school.
Jim & Judith Enright on tue 29 jul 03
About 6 years ago I had a near meltdown due to a deteriorating plug.
After speaking with an electrician, I decided the only alternative was
to hardwire the kilns. I've had no problems since.
Judith Enright
San Jose, CA
www.bleopard.com
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 06:58 AM, Milla Miller wrote:
> That thread was why I had not unplugged the kiln as I had read
> that.This sure
> gets confusing.I did have fewer recepticles than kilns and thought
> having
> the breakers right at the recepticles as well as at the very nearby
> box would
> make it ok.I also had checked my plug and area for wear and noticed
> nothing
> when I fired last and had no signs of any problems.
>
> I apologize to the list about my messy bad post and was under more
> stress
> than I realized writing it as it was dawning on me that I do not have
> the
> ressources to build back the building for the kilns much less replace
> the stuff.
>
> Yes,I said myself I am aware the loss was not to family and that makes
> one
> always thankful.However ,I only shared the entire event with the
> list as I
> have no one else who gives a d--.and thought only a potter might
> appreciate the
> loss and setback and anguish this causes, especially when one tries to
> avoid
> careless accidents to faithfully.
>
> Just to say I hope this NEVER happens to any of you and hoping my
> sharing
> will cause some rethimking that might save others my grief and more.
>
> I have no support system here even though I have done all I know to
> establish one throughout my long career in clay.Clayart sseems to be
> it.One learns a
> lot about life and one's self when the cards are down.
> Margaret
>
> In a message dated 7/29/2003 8:20:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wschran@EROLS.COM writes:
>
>
>> Will repeated removal of the plug make
>> the outlet contacts loose and contribute to heating/melting/fire?
>> I've replaced all of the outlets and 2 plugs/cords on our kilns at
>> school.
>
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Earl Brunner on tue 29 jul 03
Milla, you certainly don't need to opologize for
anything. Heck, that's a really bad thing to have
happen. Sorry I was so hard on you. If you notice, I
was really the only one that complained, and I was
duly chastised. (actually I was really surprised that
more people didn't dump on me for being insensitive)
Again, I'm sorry for your loss and it's complications.
And dumping on us is why we're here. Support. I get
a lot of it from this list.
Earl Brunner
--- Milla Miller wrote:
> That thread was why I had not unplugged the kiln as
> I had read that.This sure
> gets confusing.I did have fewer recepticles than
> kilns and thought having
> the breakers right at the recepticles as well as at
> the very nearby box would
> make it ok.I also had checked my plug and area for
> wear and noticed nothing
> when I fired last and had no signs of any problems.
>
> I apologize to the list about my messy bad post and
> was under more stress
> than I realized writing it as it was dawning on me
> that I do not have the
> ressources to build back the building for the kilns
> much less replace the stuff.
>
> Yes,I said myself I am aware the loss was not to
> family and that makes one
> always thankful.However ,I only shared the entire
> event with the list as I
> have no one else who gives a d--.
=====
Earl Brunner
e-mail: brunv53@yahoo.com
Hollis Engley on tue 29 jul 03
Margaret: There is no reason to apologize to anyone for the way you told
your story. You're a potter, not a journalist or an editor. All of us should
understand that and at least offer sympathy and understanding about a bad
situation.
Two years ago in February, my wife and I were in England and we visited
Johnny Leach's pottery at Muchelney in Somerset. He wasn't around, but his
wife Lizzie was and she very graciously gave us a tour of the pottery. She
showed us the wood kiln and told us about the first firing of it six or
seven years ago, when flames escaping from the top of the kiln set the kiln
shed and workshop on fire, destroying them and nearly destroying the Leach
house with it.
It sounded terribly frightening and Dee and I said so. "Oh," she said,
"Grampa Leach always said that you're not a real potter until you've had a
couple of fires." Grampa Leach - aka Bernard - may have been right, but my
wife's eyes rolled big time when she heard that one. We had a new gas kiln -
our first - sitting in the studio at that very minute.
From your harrowing story, it sounds like you're well on your way to
becoming what Bernard Leach would call "a real potter." So, congratulations.
And hang in there.
Hollis Engley
Hatchville Pottery
Falmouth, Mass.
hengley@cape.com
Dapogny.Gail on wed 30 jul 03
Earl,
Gracious apology-and nice of you to step forward like that, but don't beat
yourself up. We all feel so bad about Milla's fire and know you do too. We
all stick our foot in it now and then. You're one of the regulars, and
valuable to Clayart.
---Gail Dapogny in Ann Arbor
>Milla, you certainly don't need to opologize for
>anything. Heck, that's a really bad thing to have
>happen. Sorry I was so hard on you. If you notice, I
>was really the only one that complained, and I was
>duly chastised. ...
>Earl Brunner
Milla Miller on mon 4 aug 03
In a message dated 7/29/2003 12:41:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
enrights@PACBELL.NET writes:
>
> About 6 years ago I had a near meltdown due to a deteriorating plug.
> After speaking with an electrician, I decided the only alternative was
> to hardwire the kilns. I've had no problems since.
>
> Judith Enright
>
The wiring was new 10 years ago and in my 35 years in pottery i'd had no
problems either until last week.I was utterly surprised the dedicated circuit
breaker just above the recepticle would have stopped the problem in its tracks.i
,too, will rewire all anew and use direct wire.Do you use it for test kilns as
well?
Thanks,
Margaret
John Baymore on tue 5 aug 03
The wiring was new 10 years ago and in my 35 years in pottery i'd had no
problems either until last week.
Since there seems to be few logical reasons that this outlet should have =
caused a fire with the kiln not running ....... have you considered
something like a lightening strike or a major voltage surge or line probl=
em
from the power company? If it was wither of those....... your whole
insurance picture might change for the positive.
Just a thought.
best,
..........................john =
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
22 Riverbend Way
Wilton, NH 03086-5812 USA
JBaymore@compuserve.com
http://www.JohnBaymore.com
603-654-2752 (studio)
800-900-1110 (studio)
"Earth, Water, and Fire Noborigama Woodfiring Workshop: August 15-24,
2003"
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