pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on mon 1 sep 03
"Jewelry"...and what it is not...
Hi Carolyn,
The problem seems to me to be in the sloppy transferance of
seconday, tertiary or quarternary figurative allusions onto
ever distant associated things...
'Jewelry' is of 'Jewels', as precious or semi-precious
Stones, and their occasions in (usually, 'Precious') metal
settings.
The transference of the term Jewelry to the 'Metal' itself
is one step...and I think not a wise one. Silver or Gold
"Ornaments" and so on would be sensible to say at that
point...
The transference of the term to any (mere) physical ornament
is no longer 'about' the subject, but is about silly people
who do not care to see straight or think straight, or who
want to elevate their posessions or their work to bask in
the reflected (or associated) status of something it is not.
'Clay Ornaments' might be honest enough...'Clay Jewelry',
seeks to stretch the elastic limits of credulilty to it's
own self coonscious compensation of it's opinion of itself
as NOT being able to stand as what it is, but needs to be
insinuated 'in' or with something it is not.
THAT is our culture anymore...in a 'Nutshell'...
The more we buy into it the more stupid we become.
Phil
Las Vegas
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From:
> In a message dated 8/31/2003 10:33:11 PM,
snail@MINDSPRING.COM writes:
>
> << I'm a sculptor. Defined by my work, not my material.
> Clay is my medium, but not my identity-Snail >>
>
> This is a problem throughout the visual arts and crafts;
that is, some are
> recognized by the finished work (sculptor) and some are
recognized by the medium
> (potter.)
>
> Even "painter" is defined by the finished work. A
"painting" not the medium,
> which could be anything used to make a painting; such as,
oils, water colors,
> acrylics, etc.
>
> This has made categorizing almost impossible by guilds,
shows and fairs.
> Where we have "jewerlers" working in a wide variety of
mediums, we also have
> potters who make jewlery as well as other finished work
made of clay.
>
> So, when is a jeweler a jeweler and when are they potters
making clay
> jewelery?
>
> Also, when is a sculptor a sculptor and when are they
potters making
> sculpture?
>
> This confusion goes on and on. I wish someone somewhere
would institute a
> categorical list that made sense.
> -Carolynn Palmer
> Somerset Center, Michigan
Susan Setley on mon 1 sep 03
"Jewelry"...and what it is not...
In a message dated 9/1/03 4:52:58 PM, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
<<
The problem seems to me to be in the sloppy transferance of
seconday, tertiary or quarternary figurative allusions onto
ever distant associated things...
'Jewelry' is of 'Jewels', as precious or semi-precious
Stones, and their occasions in (usually, 'Precious') metal
settings.
>>
But -- on the other hand -- words evolve, and their meanings can change. They
can acquire a second meaning.
I think the artist should decide how to characterize his or her work. I want
to make a "stone" box like the ones a South African potter used to make (I'm
sorry; I don't remember his name. That would be a sort of fusion between
handbuilding and sculpture, but I'll just call it "pottery."
Even though it's not a "pot." There is no name for another kind of thing
I've made. I just call it "pottery." :)
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