Mondloch on thu 4 sep 03
Owen's post got me wondering about assistant/apprenticeships in today's
world- are these relationships still fairly common, how they structured and
are they usually successful?
Mark and I really don't have any NEED for help. Mark's blacksmith shop and
my pottery studio are set-up for single person use, we help each other when
needed and we're able to balance our sales to our production capability. But
sometimes (like in the middle of winter, we've haven't been out of the
house/studio for 2 weeks, and we're a bit overdosed on each other), we feel
like we're at a point where perhaps we have some skills to share and would
enjoy having someone around for awhile.
When potter's talk about apprenticeships, it seems like 1-2 years is often
mentioned. Yikes! That seems like a huge commitment for both parties.
There's a tradition among blacksmith's for beginning smith's to volunteer to
work/live at a blacksmith shop for a week or two in order to observe their
shop practices and then move onto another. It would seem like one work-cycle
( 3 weeks here) may make sense for potters.
Some likely concerns for the hosts:
-Trust- Will this stranger walk off with the place?
-Liability-What if they get hurt or sick?
Some likely concerns for the apprentice:
-Travel/living expense
-Other commitments
-Trust- what if these people are really, really weird
I don't know, I'd just like to hear others thoughts on this. Students are
willing to pay money and time to go to school which is fine, but in
retrospect, I think I could have learned allot and avoided many problems by
observing a working studio for awhile when I first started.
Sylvia
Owen, you sound like you already have a great deal of experience. I'm
curious as to what you are looking to draw from another
assistant/apprenticeship.
---
Mark & Sylvia Mondloch
Silver Creek Pottery & Forge
W6725 Hwy 144
Random Lake ,Wi 53075
HotArt@silvercreekpottery.com
http://www.silvercreekpottery.com
----- Original Message -----
> Now I have to apologize; I'm attempting to start a discussion thread that
> has nothing to do with sex, hating big buisnesses, or enabling complaints
in
> general. However I am willing to discuss any combination of the three if
> you can give me a hand.
>
> And please, tust me on this, it's worth reading to the end.
>
> My name is Owen and I'm looking for a position as an assistant/apprentice
to
> a studio potter. Well, that's not entirely true; I'll also work as an
> instructor, intern, studio monkey or other such position. Basically I'd
> like to work with someone who knows what they are doing, or at least knows
> enough that they can look like they know what they doing.
>
> I have a BFA in studio art (ceramics), and over two years professional
> experience working in some of the largest and most respected studios and
> production shops. I have done everything from running RAM presses, mixing
> slip and clay, making production molds, throwing for workshop demos, to
> monitoring glaze production and quality (400gal+). I could go on, but
that
> would just get boring.
>
> And so everyone I'd like to ask for your help please. If you know of any
> openings, potters in need of help, really good links or classifieds,
please
> point me that way or help me to get in touch. Getting out there and
getting
> started is tough, and any help I can get is pure gold. Oh, and I'm not
> limited just to the US, I'd like to go internationally if possible. So if
> anyone has any info on working with clay abroad, please, please help.
>
> So please, sell me to your friends. I come cheap (I'll work for room and
> board if the position is right), I can relocate to any location, and I'm
> young, able, and knowledgeable. Yes, all this and more could be yours (or
> theirs).
>
> My resume and digital portfolio are available upon demand. And please,
> pester me with questions/comments/suggestions anytime. It will only help.
>
> Thank you for your time everyboday, I sincerely appreciate it.
>
> Owen K.
.
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 4 sep 03
Be your own Apprentice...
Experiment...pay attention...look into what others have done
in the discipline, try things...
Make discoveries...gain facility and insight...
The rest follows...
Phil
Las Vegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mondloch"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: apprenticships/ was An email for everyone!
Please Help!!
> Owen's post got me wondering about
assistant/apprenticeships in today's
> world- are these relationships still fairly common, how
they structured and
> are they usually successful?
>
> Mark and I really don't have any NEED for help. Mark's
blacksmith shop and
> my pottery studio are set-up for single person use, we
help each other when
> needed and we're able to balance our sales to our
production capability. But
> sometimes (like in the middle of winter, we've haven't
been out of the
> house/studio for 2 weeks, and we're a bit overdosed on
each other), we feel
> like we're at a point where perhaps we have some skills to
share and would
> enjoy having someone around for awhile.
>
> When potter's talk about apprenticeships, it seems like
1-2 years is often
> mentioned. Yikes! That seems like a huge commitment for
both parties.
> There's a tradition among blacksmith's for beginning
smith's to volunteer to
> work/live at a blacksmith shop for a week or two in order
to observe their
> shop practices and then move onto another. It would seem
like one work-cycle
> ( 3 weeks here) may make sense for potters.
>
> Some likely concerns for the hosts:
> -Trust- Will this stranger walk off with the place?
> -Liability-What if they get hurt or sick?
>
> Some likely concerns for the apprentice:
> -Travel/living expense
> -Other commitments
> -Trust- what if these people are really, really weird
>
> I don't know, I'd just like to hear others thoughts on
this. Students are
> willing to pay money and time to go to school which is
fine, but in
> retrospect, I think I could have learned allot and avoided
many problems by
> observing a working studio for awhile when I first
started.
>
> Sylvia
>
> Owen, you sound like you already have a great deal of
experience. I'm
> curious as to what you are looking to draw from another
> assistant/apprenticeship.
>
> ---
> Mark & Sylvia Mondloch
> Silver Creek Pottery & Forge
> W6725 Hwy 144
> Random Lake ,Wi 53075
> HotArt@silvercreekpottery.com
> http://www.silvercreekpottery.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > Now I have to apologize; I'm attempting to start a
discussion thread that
> > has nothing to do with sex, hating big buisnesses, or
enabling complaints
> in
> > general. However I am willing to discuss any
combination of the three if
> > you can give me a hand.
> >
> > And please, tust me on this, it's worth reading to the
end.
> >
> > My name is Owen and I'm looking for a position as an
assistant/apprentice
> to
> > a studio potter. Well, that's not entirely true; I'll
also work as an
> > instructor, intern, studio monkey or other such
position. Basically I'd
> > like to work with someone who knows what they are doing,
or at least knows
> > enough that they can look like they know what they
doing.
> >
> > I have a BFA in studio art (ceramics), and over two
years professional
> > experience working in some of the largest and most
respected studios and
> > production shops. I have done everything from running
RAM presses, mixing
> > slip and clay, making production molds, throwing for
workshop demos, to
> > monitoring glaze production and quality (400gal+). I
could go on, but
> that
> > would just get boring.
> >
> > And so everyone I'd like to ask for your help please.
If you know of any
> > openings, potters in need of help, really good links or
classifieds,
> please
> > point me that way or help me to get in touch. Getting
out there and
> getting
> > started is tough, and any help I can get is pure gold.
Oh, and I'm not
> > limited just to the US, I'd like to go internationally
if possible. So if
> > anyone has any info on working with clay abroad, please,
please help.
> >
> > So please, sell me to your friends. I come cheap (I'll
work for room and
> > board if the position is right), I can relocate to any
location, and I'm
> > young, able, and knowledgeable. Yes, all this and more
could be yours (or
> > theirs).
> >
> > My resume and digital portfolio are available upon
demand. And please,
> > pester me with questions/comments/suggestions anytime.
It will only help.
> >
> > Thank you for your time everyboday, I sincerely
appreciate it.
> >
> > Owen K.
> .
>
>
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