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adding a computer to a manual kiln,monitoring kilns/studio

updated tue 23 sep 03

 

Milla Miller on fri 5 sep 03


There are mini video cameras with sound that feed wirelessly from a building
to either a tv monitor or computer.K Mart sells an inexpensive one ,black and
white, for $40 here and a search of google.com and computer stores for the
computer programs should bring up a wide variety of choices.The one I mention
supports 4 cameras to position about the area and alternately view and has
sound.They are used as nanny cams and farmers and ranchers use them in their barns
and for security systems.This does not mean you should ignore the kiln but they
can allow you to view the situation if you must get other things done.The
ones that are computer connected can record to disc and be transmitted to a
remote location.They sound helpful if you can figure out how to set them up.
Margaret

> when I will
> be "communicating" and monitoring my kilns from inside of my home while
> having
> dinner or doing the laundry. This I look so forward to,when the cold and
> snows
> of winter will make this "walk" a very unhappy task for me.
>

piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET on fri 5 sep 03


Thanks for the advice. To clarify, I would like to have my home computer
connected to my studio computer interfaced with several thermocouples to check
zone temperatures within the kilns (s). Perhaps not so much to control and
adjust temperature but simply to monitor it.
Rick
> There are mini video cameras with sound that feed wirelessly from a building
> to either a tv monitor or computer.K Mart sells an inexpensive one ,black and
> white, for $40 here and a search of google.com and computer stores for the
> computer programs should bring up a wide variety of choices.The one I mention
> supports 4 cameras to position about the area and alternately view and has
> sound.They are used as nanny cams and farmers and ranchers use them in their
> barns
> and for security systems.This does not mean you should ignore the kiln but they
> can allow you to view the situation if you must get other things done.The
> ones that are computer connected can record to disc and be transmitted to a
> remote location.They sound helpful if you can figure out how to set them up.
> Margaret
>
> > when I will
> > be "communicating" and monitoring my kilns from inside of my home while
> > having
> > dinner or doing the laundry. This I look so forward to,when the cold and
> > snows
> > of winter will make this "walk" a very unhappy task for me.
> >
>
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Terrance Gallentine on fri 5 sep 03


I know that Omega Instruments sells temperature controllers that can be
networked to your computer. Once you found out which of their controllers
fit the bill for you, you would then have to decide on which kind of relay
you wanted to use. The relay is what would actually shut off electricity to
the kiln. It would be controlled by the temp controller. There are a large
variety of relays (solid state, mechanical and mercury). You should find
out about the relays before you make a choice. A down side to the solid
state relays is that if they fail, they fail in the closed position and the
result can be a meltdown. I am planning on getting around this by using
redundat relays in series (two shouldn't fail at the same time). The solid
state relays are nice because they last a long time and don't make any
noise.


>From: piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Adding a computer to a manual kiln,monitoring kilns/studio
>Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:32:50 +0000
>
>Thanks for the advice. To clarify, I would like to have my home computer
>connected to my studio computer interfaced with several thermocouples to
>check
>zone temperatures within the kilns (s). Perhaps not so much to control and
>adjust temperature but simply to monitor it.
>Rick
> > There are mini video cameras with sound that feed wirelessly from a
>building
> > to either a tv monitor or computer.K Mart sells an inexpensive one
>,black and
> > white, for $40 here and a search of google.com and computer stores for
>the
> > computer programs should bring up a wide variety of choices.The one I
>mention
> > supports 4 cameras to position about the area and alternately view and
>has
> > sound.They are used as nanny cams and farmers and ranchers use them in
>their
> > barns
> > and for security systems.This does not mean you should ignore the kiln
>but they
> > can allow you to view the situation if you must get other things
>done.The
> > ones that are computer connected can record to disc and be transmitted
>to a
> > remote location.They sound helpful if you can figure out how to set them
>up.
> > Margaret
> >
> > > when I will
> > > be "communicating" and monitoring my kilns from inside of my home
>while
> > > having
> > > dinner or doing the laundry. This I look so forward to,when the cold
>and
> > > snows
> > > of winter will make this "walk" a very unhappy task for me.
> > >
> >
> >
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> > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
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> >
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>melpots@pclink.com.
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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>
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>melpots@pclink.com.

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piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET on tue 23 sep 03


HI
Sorry about not responding and thanking you for this information sooner but
the contractors had started work on the new studio and I missed your response.
Why not use an Orton kiln shutoff to prevent overfiring in the eventthat the
relay malfunctions?
Thanks again,
Rick
> I know that Omega Instruments sells temperature controllers that can be
> networked to your computer. Once you found out which of their controllers
> fit the bill for you, you would then have to decide on which kind of relay
> you wanted to use. The relay is what would actually shut off electricity to
> the kiln. It would be controlled by the temp controller. There are a large
> variety of relays (solid state, mechanical and mercury). You should find
> out about the relays before you make a choice. A down side to the solid
> state relays is that if they fail, they fail in the closed position and the
> result can be a meltdown. I am planning on getting around this by using
> redundat relays in series (two shouldn't fail at the same time). The solid
> state relays are nice because they last a long time and don't make any
> noise.
>
>
> >From: piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET
> >Reply-To: Clayart
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Re: Adding a computer to a manual kiln,monitoring kilns/studio
> >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:32:50 +0000
> >
> >Thanks for the advice. To clarify, I would like to have my home computer
> >connected to my studio computer interfaced with several thermocouples to
> >check
> >zone temperatures within the kilns (s). Perhaps not so much to control and
> >adjust temperature but simply to monitor it.
> >Rick
> > > There are mini video cameras with sound that feed wirelessly from a
> >building
> > > to either a tv monitor or computer.K Mart sells an inexpensive one
> >,black and
> > > white, for $40 here and a search of google.com and computer stores for
> >the
> > > computer programs should bring up a wide variety of choices.The one I
> >mention
> > > supports 4 cameras to position about the area and alternately view and
> >has
> > > sound.They are used as nanny cams and farmers and ranchers use them in
> >their
> > > barns
> > > and for security systems.This does not mean you should ignore the kiln
> >but they
> > > can allow you to view the situation if you must get other things
> >done.The
> > > ones that are computer connected can record to disc and be transmitted
> >to a
> > > remote location.They sound helpful if you can figure out how to set them
> >up.
> > > Margaret
> > >
> > > > when I will
> > > > be "communicating" and monitoring my kilns from inside of my home
> >while
> > > > having
> > > > dinner or doing the laundry. This I look so forward to,when the cold
> >and
> > > > snows
> > > > of winter will make this "walk" a very unhappy task for me.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >______________________________________________________________________________
> > > Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> > >
> > > You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> > > settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> > >
> > > Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> >melpots@pclink.com.
> >
> >______________________________________________________________________________
> >Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> >
> >You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> >settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
> >
> >Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> >melpots@pclink.com.
>
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