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an honest question re brick

updated thu 11 sep 03

 

David Hendley on mon 8 sep 03


I agree, Lily. It is utterly ridiculous to spend a bunch of $$$ to cut
some old fire brick.
It is, indeed, simple to make your own kiln posts. I make mine with
my extruder. My preferred recipe is half pulverized used and
broken insulating firebrick and half fireclay. Cost is about 5-10 cents
a post.
For a salt/soda/wood kiln, roll the posts in a bet of alumina hydrate
while still wet.

Here is another idea that I have done: Go to the firebrick factory
and get some un-fired bricks. Take them home and cut them to
preferred size with a skill saw outfitted with an old dull blade.
(This causes dust like crazy, so stand upwind on a windy day
and wear a proper dust respirator). Fire once before using them
as supports.

David Hendley
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com





----- Original Message -----

> Mebbe it is because I'm female. But I see no sense in buying one time use
> tools.
>
> WHY NOT LET YOU FINGERS DO THE WALKING??????? Leaving aside that you can
> buy soaps cheaper than saw blades,as I think Louis said, why not as was
> suggested call around find someone who will do it for you.....
>
> ALSO; COULD ONE NOT MAKE THE SUPPORTS? WOULD THE MANY PUBLISHED
RECIPES
> FOR MIXES OF FIRECLAY, SAWDUST, KAOLIN NOT WORK IN THIS SPECIFIC KILN?
>

Zoe Paddy Johnson on mon 8 sep 03


I am a woman. So is my daughter :-). We like tools almost as much as my
son and we will almost always jump at the chance to get a tool. Tools are
just intrinsically neat...
And since I am just the flunky on this one :-), I was just trying to figure
out the best way of doing what my boss told me to do. But I must say, the
idea of making kiln shelf supports sounds very cool. If my boss should
assign it I will be right on it.
zoej
--On Monday, September 08, 2003 8:09 AM -0400 Lily Krakowski
wrote:

> Mebbe it is because I'm female. But I see no sense in buying one time use
>

Lily Krakowski on mon 8 sep 03


Mebbe it is because I'm female. But I see no sense in buying one time use
tools. It seems to me MALE to see a tree that needs to come down, go out
buy a chain saw (the first is always too small, so the second one is bought)
a helmet with face guard and ear-protectors, files for the chain saw,
adorable tiny bottles of special oil, a thingie to hold the saw while
sharpening it, diverse size BandAids. Then one goes out, cuts the tree,
puts all the tools away and there sits a several $100 investment dripping
oil on the garage floor.

A female just calls a garden/landscape person, a logger, a farmer, a "tree
service" and for $100 max gets its done.

WHY NOT LET YOU FINGERS DO THE WALKING??????? Leaving aside that you can
buy soaps cheaper than saw blades,as I think Louis said, why not as was
suggested call around find someone who will do it for you.....

ALSO; COULD ONE NOT MAKE THE SUPPORTS? WOULD THE MANY PUBLISHED RECIPES
FOR MIXES OF FIRECLAY, SAWDUST, KAOLIN NOT WORK IN THIS SPECIFIC KILN?




Lili Krakowski
Constableville, N.Y.

Be of good courage....

Hendrix, Taylor J on mon 8 sep 03


David,

Would you turn the old dull blade backwards so as to
prevent it from biting and chipping the brick?

Taylor, in Waco

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hendley [mailto:hendley@TYLER.NET]=20
....

Here is another idea that I have done: Go to the firebrick factory
and get some un-fired bricks. Take them home and cut them to
preferred size with a skill saw outfitted with an old dull blade.
(This causes dust like crazy, so stand upwind on a windy day
and wear a proper dust respirator). Fire once before using them
as supports.

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 9 sep 03


Hi David, or Taylor,



Why not use an Abrasive Blade, of the kind made for the
'Skilsaw' having the Diamond-Arbor...?

Why would you wish to use a 'fine tooth plywood Blade'?


I have cut a good deal of old hard Stucco with the Abrasive
Blades in my Skilsaw, and I cannot imagine trying to do that
with a 'panel-blade' or the like...nor would the Blades DO
that in anything like a satisfying manner, no matter what
way the teeth were directed...

A Carbide Blade would be ruined in moments...

I am curious,

Best!

Phil
Las Vegas

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Hendley"


> >David,
> >Would you turn the old dull blade backwards so as to
> >prevent it from biting and chipping the brick?
> >
> Yes, best of all would be a fine-tooth plywood blade.
> And, I forgot to add that if you are making supports for
use in
> a salt/soda/wood-fired kiln, you can dip the cut, dry
bricks
> in a 50/50 alumina/kaolin kiln wash slip before firing the
> first time. They will absorb a good, thick, protective
coating.
> David Hendley
> david@farmpots.com
> http://www.farmpots.com
>
>
> Taylor, in Waco

Arnold Howard on tue 9 sep 03


Powdered firebrick is available in 5 lb. bags from Paragon--or larger
quantities if you want. It is a by-product of making firebrick element
grooves, so we have plenty.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P.
arnoldhoward@att.net



From: David Hendley
> It is, indeed, simple to make your own kiln posts. I make mine with
> my extruder. My preferred recipe is half pulverized used and
> broken insulating firebrick and half fireclay. Cost is about 5-10
cents
> a post.

David Hendley on tue 9 sep 03


>David,
>Would you turn the old dull blade backwards so as to
>prevent it from biting and chipping the brick?
>
Yes, best of all would be a fine-tooth plywood blade.
And, I forgot to add that if you are making supports for use in
a salt/soda/wood-fired kiln, you can dip the cut, dry bricks
in a 50/50 alumina/kaolin kiln wash slip before firing the
first time. They will absorb a good, thick, protective coating.
David Hendley
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com


Taylor, in Waco

-----Original Message-----
Here is another idea that I have done: Go to the firebrick factory
and get some un-fired bricks. Take them home and cut them to
preferred size with a skill saw outfitted with an old dull blade.

David Hendley on wed 10 sep 03


---- Original Message -----
> Why not use an Abrasive Blade, of the kind made for the
> 'Skilsaw' having the Diamond-Arbor...?
>
> Why would you wish to use a 'fine tooth plywood Blade'?
>

1) You are cutting unfired bricks. Anything will cut them. A fine tooth
blade, mounted backwards, cuts smoother and finer than a
fast cutting cross-cut blade.

2) You are using a worthless piece of junk (worn out blade), rather
than buying something new.

David Hendley
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com