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kiln sitters on automatic kilns?

updated tue 16 sep 03

 

Lori on wed 10 sep 03


Hi there,
I'm considering buying a new kiln (either the L&L e23T, their JD230 or a
Skutt KM-1027) and have received conflicting information regarding whether
or not it is important to have a kiln sitter as a back up on a computerized
kiln. Any words of wisdom? One more question...I've got a brand new
Bailey single vent system which I'd like to hook up to whichever kiln I
decide to buy. When I spoke to the folks at L&L they said that they
recommended I purchase a new vent from them and did not recommend using a
vent system from a different manufacturer on one of their kilns. Hmm...Is
this just a marketing ploy?

Thanks for your help...
Lori

Carole Fox on thu 11 sep 03


Lori said-
When I spoke to the folks at L&L they said that they
> recommended I purchase a new vent from them and did not recommend using a
> vent system from a different manufacturer on one of their kilns. Hmm...Is
> this just a marketing ploy?

Lori-
I have a JD230 and I love it. I did not buy my vent from Land L and found
that I had to modify my kiln (I needed to drill an additional exit hole) in
order to get it to vent properly. I would assume that a venting system from
the manufacturer would not require you to make such adjustments.
Carole Fox
Elkton, MD
thesilverfox@dol.net

william schran on thu 11 sep 03


Lori wrote: > .....have received conflicting information regarding whether
or not it is important to have a kiln sitter as a back up on a computerized
kiln. Any words of wisdom? One more question...I've got a brand new
Bailey single vent system which I'd like to hook up to whichever kiln I
decide to buy.<

I would ask the manufacturer if the kiln is UL rated without the kiln
sitter. I have a L&L kiln with kiln sitter/limit timer. When I had it
in my last house, I had line put in for kiln and had inspector come
by to ok electric work. Inspector knew nothing about kilns, I pointed
out the UL rating sticker, no problem, he understood that. Probably
not a bad idea to have the kiln sitter as a back up. I would also
recommend you use witness cones in the kiln for every firing.
FYI - I have a Bailey vent on my L&L.
Bill

Steve Mills on thu 11 sep 03


All our kilns at work, and my electric kiln at home have a Kiln Sitter
and a controller; the controller looks after the firing schedule (always
set a little high!), and the cone in the sitter shuts it down when the
glazes are *right*. For me this is an unbeatable system; after all cones
behave in a similar fashion to glazes.

The vent recommendation smacks of marketing, but I could be wrong.
Perhaps someone from L&L could comment on this for us ALL to read.

Steve
Bath
UK


In message , Lori writes
>Hi there,
>I'm considering buying a new kiln (either the L&L e23T, their JD230 or a
>Skutt KM-1027) and have received conflicting information regarding whethe=
>r
>or not it is important to have a kiln sitter as a back up on a computeriz=
>ed
>kiln. Any words of wisdom? One more question...I've got a brand new
>Bailey single vent system which I'd like to hook up to whichever kiln I
>decide to buy. When I spoke to the folks at L&L they said that they
>recommended I purchase a new vent from them and did not recommend using a
>vent system from a different manufacturer on one of their kilns. Hmm...Is
>this just a marketing ploy?
>
>Thanks for your help...
>Lori

--
Steve Mills
Bath
UK

Charles Moore on thu 11 sep 03


Lori,

Having a kiln sitter as a back up, even on a computerized kiln, is a good
idea. I just set my kiln sitter a cone or two higher than I expect to fire
(e.g., small ^8 in the sitter to back up large ^6).

I must admit that I don't remember seeing an electric kiln WITHOUT a kiln
sitter. You might have difficulty finding one such.

Charles
Sacramento

Subject: Re: kiln sitters on automatic kilns?


> Lori wrote: > .....have received conflicting information regarding
whether
> or not it is important to have a kiln sitter as a back up on a
computerized
> kiln. Any words of wisdom?

Arnold Howard on mon 15 sep 03


Having a Kiln Sitter safety backup on a digital kiln is a good idea. If
the digital controller malfunctions, the Kiln Sitter could prevent an
overfire.

However, if you monitor the kiln, then you would not need the Kiln
Sitter as a safety backup. My suggestion is to use self-supporting cones
in every firing and to position them so you can see them through a
peephole.
Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P.
arnoldhoward@att.net

From: Lori
> I'm considering buying a new kiln (either the L&L e23T, their JD230 or
a
> Skutt KM-1027) and have received conflicting information regarding
whether
> or not it is important to have a kiln sitter as a back up on a
computerized
> kiln. Any words of wisdom?