John Rodgers on fri 12 sep 03
Des, you have brought up something that I have not seen before in this
discussion - Hand made vs......whatever. Ant that is the issue of "hand
made vs. home made". It is intriguing.
I suspect that there is far more appreciation for "home made" goods
than for "hand made" goods. At least part of the reason being it strikes
to the heart of American ingenuity, for which we have been famous in
this country in the past. I personally like the the idea of a piece of
work from some artist/mechanic/gardenfarmer/whatever who figured out how
to get the job done in his home garage/shop/studio without the big bucks
behind him.
Just me.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Birmingham, AL
Des & Jan Howard wrote:
>In the discussions re: handmade/non handmade, craft/fine craft,
>appropriate/assisted technologies, etc. no one so far has looked
>at the machinery involved, apart from John Baymore's outline on his website.
>
>I have a fascination with machines & gadgets.
>The investigation of processes, the design & construction
>of these is something I spend a lot of time (& not a little cash) on.
>Their purpose is ostensibly to compensate for diminishing
>physical fitness & to aid in production.
>
>A lot of the time they are built just because I like to see machines operating.
>Trev (who has been with us 19 years) says I only run this place to
>give me an excuse to make gadgets. He's only partly wrong.
>
>Visitors to our workshop are invited to tour the operation,
>from the raw materials (most of which we dig or obtain locally),
>blunging, screening, filter pressing, pug milling,
>kick & electric wheels, extruders, jigger/jolley,
>(no hydraulic press yet, it's being built), turning, glazing /decorating,
>firing & finally finish grinding. It varies as to which parts of the
>production interests them the most.
>
>Some are captivated by the extruding & purchase
>extruded pots, some buy the extensively chattered pots
>they saw being turned, some are intrigued by the jigger/jolley
>& specifically ask for jiggered items to purchase.
>
>Based on our experiences in this workshop we have found
>customers are more interested in the "home made" aspects
>of our work than the "hand made".
>
>We make what we want to make, how we want to make it.
>If people like & buy what we like making we will make some more.
>If they want us to make something we don't want to make,
>we won't make it.
>If they don't want to buy a lot of what we want to make
>we'll still make it, but in reduced quantities.
>
>Like Tony Clennell we make fewer pots now but spend more time on each piece.
>
>Jan & I are the arbiters in this pottery,
>our customers are our peer reviewers, not other potters.
>Flattery is nice, but cash is sincere.
>
>Des
>
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>
>Des & Jan Howard
>Lue Pottery
>LUE NSW 2850
>Australia
>Ph/Fax 02 6373 6419
>http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
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Marta Matray Gloviczki on fri 12 sep 03
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 06:49:17 -0500, John Rodgers
wrote:
john,
there is an interesting article on art in today`s new york times.
Wry Faith That's a Bit Slapstick
--------------------------------
The best of Paul Kos's work at the Grey Art Gallery
has a
deadpan slapstick humor and a modest, elegant formal
logic.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/12/arts/design/12KIMM.html?
ex=1064370339&ei=1&en=ad393a17778b1887
i would say that kos` work is certainly homemade, isnt it?
and handmade too... or hand picked?
:-))
marta
you wrote:
>And that is the issue of "hand
>made vs. home made". It is intriguing.
Des & Jan Howard on fri 12 sep 03
In the discussions re: handmade/non handmade, craft/fine craft,
appropriate/assisted technologies, etc. no one so far has looked
at the machinery involved, apart from John Baymore's outline on his website.
I have a fascination with machines & gadgets.
The investigation of processes, the design & construction
of these is something I spend a lot of time (& not a little cash) on.
Their purpose is ostensibly to compensate for diminishing
physical fitness & to aid in production.
A lot of the time they are built just because I like to see machines operating.
Trev (who has been with us 19 years) says I only run this place to
give me an excuse to make gadgets. He's only partly wrong.
Visitors to our workshop are invited to tour the operation,
from the raw materials (most of which we dig or obtain locally),
blunging, screening, filter pressing, pug milling,
kick & electric wheels, extruders, jigger/jolley,
(no hydraulic press yet, it's being built), turning, glazing /decorating,
firing & finally finish grinding. It varies as to which parts of the
production interests them the most.
Some are captivated by the extruding & purchase
extruded pots, some buy the extensively chattered pots
they saw being turned, some are intrigued by the jigger/jolley
& specifically ask for jiggered items to purchase.
Based on our experiences in this workshop we have found
customers are more interested in the "home made" aspects
of our work than the "hand made".
We make what we want to make, how we want to make it.
If people like & buy what we like making we will make some more.
If they want us to make something we don't want to make,
we won't make it.
If they don't want to buy a lot of what we want to make
we'll still make it, but in reduced quantities.
Like Tony Clennell we make fewer pots now but spend more time on each piece.
Jan & I are the arbiters in this pottery,
our customers are our peer reviewers, not other potters.
Flattery is nice, but cash is sincere.
Des
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
LUE NSW 2850
Australia
Ph/Fax 02 6373 6419
http://www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
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