Gene and Dolita Dohrman on mon 29 sep 03
I am having a similar problem with some messages. When I go to delete
certain messages the computer freezes up and I need to use Ctrl/Alt/Delete,
but then when I tell it to "End Task" it closes Outlook completely. I
haven't paid close enough attention to see if this is just on messages from
Japan. This has just started happening in the last month. It occurs after I
have read the message so I don't really lose anything. Strange. Not quite
the same, but similar.
Dolita in Kentucky
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From: Geoffrey Gaskell
To:
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:28 PM
Subject: OT: Computer Question
Edy Lynn on tue 30 sep 03
Just an idea but you may have to go to Windows to get an update so it will
translate other languages. I almost have the same thing but as soon as I
click the "X" box the message comes in OK. It's fairly easy and free to
update the little corrections that they put on the site to prevent hang-ups
as well as virus attacks. At least that's what they tell you.
Edy of Dayton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoffrey Gaskell"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:28 PM
Subject: OT: Computer Question
> I upgraded to Outlook Express 6 SP1 and started having problems with
> messages from Japan. Strangely enough the thing behaves itself with
> Ababi's messages from Israel using the "Hebrew character set". However
> any time I received a message from Lee Love, or anyone else based in
> Japan, the thing would start chugging away to display the message, but
> would stop and freeze before the entire header was displayed with the
> title bar reading "Japanese (Auto-Select)". The mouse cursor would still
> move, but you can't do anything else or even recover using Control + Alt
> + Delete, so I have to use the reset button and delete the message or
> view it in a roundabout and complex sort of way, by right clicking,
> choosing properties, & viewing the message source. Has anyone else ever
> had this sort of problem? It's a damn nuisance that it is happening
> whenever I get a message from one of the more interesting contributors
> to the list. Does anyone just happen to know how to fix it within OE6,
SP1?
>
> I have entirely solved the problem by switching to Netscape 7.1, but I
> would still be interested in knowing the solution to this riddle.
>
> Geoffrey Gaskell
>
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Geoffrey Gaskell on tue 30 sep 03
I upgraded to Outlook Express 6 SP1 and started having problems with
messages from Japan. Strangely enough the thing behaves itself with
Ababi's messages from Israel using the "Hebrew character set". However
any time I received a message from Lee Love, or anyone else based in
Japan, the thing would start chugging away to display the message, but
would stop and freeze before the entire header was displayed with the
title bar reading "Japanese (Auto-Select)". The mouse cursor would still
move, but you can't do anything else or even recover using Control + Alt
+ Delete, so I have to use the reset button and delete the message or
view it in a roundabout and complex sort of way, by right clicking,
choosing properties, & viewing the message source. Has anyone else ever
had this sort of problem? It's a damn nuisance that it is happening
whenever I get a message from one of the more interesting contributors
to the list. Does anyone just happen to know how to fix it within OE6, SP1?
I have entirely solved the problem by switching to Netscape 7.1, but I
would still be interested in knowing the solution to this riddle.
Geoffrey Gaskell
Gail Dapogny on thu 30 sep 04
Apologies for this being OT, but I've decided to emulate Mel and
purchase an external hard drive for backup purposes. Looking at
various deals, I'm confused by the terms IDE and ATA. Can someone
please enlighten me? By the way, I have a MAC G4 Laptop and I'm
looking to acquire something like a 160-200 GB, USB/Firewire device
without having to re-mortgage our house.
Thanks in advance, Gail
Gail Dapogny
Ann Arbor, Michigan
gdapogny@umich.edu
http://www.claygallery.org/
http://www.pottersguild.net/
Steve Slatin on fri 1 oct 04
Gail --
This is just me talking, but I'd say don't worry
yourself about the ATA/IDE/SCSI/SATA stuff and
focus on your connection. It sounds like you've
already decided on either USB or Firewire.
If prices are about the same, Firewire is inherently
faster, and currently-produced units at least as
reliable as USB 2.0. If prices are different, you
need to consider whether you need additional speed.
For backups, most people don't find speed too
important. (When I do backups, I set up the program
at the end of the evening and leave the room. In the
morning I take the backup off and put it in a safe
place.) If you use a similar process, or if your
backup needs aren't too great, you can use any speed
drive, and can go for the cheapest.
On the speed question, Firewire 800 is roughly twice
as fast as firewire 400, which is roughly twice as
fast as USB 2.0. But unless you're doing full-volume
backups (complete copies of all files on the disk) of
a big hard drive, or major graphics projects or the
like, you probably don't need too much backed up each
week.
I do not know if USB 1.0 backup drives are still being
produced; if they are, they are much slower than 2.0,
but again, if you've no need for a fast backup, it's
of no consequence. If someone tries
to sell you one make sure you're getting a knock-
down price on it, it's very old technology.
Best wishes -- Steve S.
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Kathy Forer on fri 1 oct 04
On Oct 1, 2004, at 5:01 AM, May Luk wrote:
> A hard
> drive with 160-200 GB is really big and maybe you don't need to spend
> the
> money for now. Do you need that kind of capacity?
Good points, May.
My home directory is 34.92 GB right now and then there is the OS/Apps
directory at 18GB and the server drive (for testing & learning) and the
mirrored backup of 80 GB, it all adds up to 200 GB, so I'm used to
thinking the more the merrier.
After having backed everything up to floppies and syquests and zips for
years, it's a relief to effortlessly copy entire large files onto media
without splitting and archiving and working nearly as hard to back it
up as it was to create the file in the first place. Or let Carbon Copy
Cloner or Retrospect do it invisibly. Now to find a mouse to copy
hundreds of old floppies onto a hard drive to see what I have forgotten
about, if anything.
Backing up offsite is another very important point. .Mac www.mac.com
will backup 150MB which is pretty good if you have a broadband
connection. Earthlink has 10MB of free WebSpace for each email address
(5 or 7). Most local and broadband hosts have web space as well. If
that's not a choice, taking CDs or DVDs offsite now and then will keep
you safe. As will an iPod or wearing your keydrive around your neck ;)
Backing up is very important and not that difficult. I've recovered
many files from user oblivion (including my own) but it's easier to
prevent that scenario from happening in the first place.
Kathy
Kim Lindaberry on fri 1 oct 04
Gail,
IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics. EIDE and ATA are further
developments of the IDE technology. In other words, IDE, EIDE and ATA
function in much the same way as each other. If you are faced with a
choice between USB or Firewire always go with Firewire. Firewire has a
much faster data transfer rate. No matter which you go with be sure to
check for the latest Firmware updates for the drive at the
manufacturer's website and Apple. There were a few models of external
hard drives that were not saving data properly a couple of years back.
It had something to do with a particular brand of chipset losing data.
Apple and HD manufacturers have since corrected the problem, but its
always good to check firmware to make sure you are keeping your data as
secure as possible. Personally I have a MicroNet 80 GB external HD with
both Firewire & USB connections. I am running an ol' G3 with OSX 10.3.5
on it. I only use the Firewire connection.
cheers,
Kim
On Sep 30, 2004, at 9:55 PM, Gail Dapogny wrote:
> Apologies for this being OT, but I've decided to emulate Mel and
> purchase an external hard drive for backup purposes. Looking at
> various deals, I'm confused by the terms IDE and ATA. Can someone
> please enlighten me? By the way, I have a MAC G4 Laptop and I'm
> looking to acquire something like a 160-200 GB, USB/Firewire device
> without having to re-mortgage our house.
> Thanks in advance, Gail
>
> Gail Dapogny
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
> gdapogny@umich.edu
> http://www.claygallery.org/
> http://www.pottersguild.net/
Kathy Forer on fri 1 oct 04
On Sep 30, 2004, at 10:55 PM, Gail Dapogny wrote:
> Apologies for this being OT, but I've decided to emulate Mel and
> purchase an external hard drive for backup purposes. Looking at
> various deals, I'm confused by the terms IDE and ATA. Can someone
> please enlighten me? By the way, I have a MAC G4 Laptop and I'm
> looking to acquire something like a 160-200 GB, USB/Firewire device
> without having to re-mortgage our house.
IDE and ATA (Integrated Drive Electronics / AT Attachment) are ways or
interfaces for data to get from one place to another, like the old SCSI
or Small Computer Systems Interface.
If you get a firewire or USB external hard drive that is already set up
as one (as opposed to putting it together yourself), you won't really
have to worry about ATA or IDE. That will be the way the actual hard
drive connects to the box that will house it. That box will have a
Firewire and/or USB interface to connect to your G4 laptop. Firewire is
much faster though nominally more expensive. It can be useful to have
both, but really only if you plan to be moving the drive around or
connecting perhaps to windows machines that may not have firewire built
in.
My favorite place for peripherals like that is www.macsales.com look at
their http://eshop.macsales.com/Static_Pages/index.cfm firewire
solutions. Their own OWC brand is highly rated and nicely portable.
LaCie is a big name brand and very solid right now. Unless you have
Firewire 800, all you need is 400, so that might save some, though it
used to be more.
If you were looking for an extra internal drive for a desktop, you'd
need to know more about IDE limits of earlier G4 buses, but you're okay
with a laptop and one of the newer Oxford 911 (and others too) chipsets
running the firewire mechanism. At one point, there was a gap in being
able to read drives over 128GB but that's mostly solvable now.
The less portable OWC Neptune has 160 GB for $150. The OWC Mercury
Elite might be a good choice, $190 for 160GB combo USB and Firewire
400. LaCie drives are $200 for a good 400/800 + USB 160GB; $190 for
200GB Firewire 400 only.
For another choice, see the wonderful Smalldog.com* or go to
www.dealmac.com . If you get a non-Mac compatible brand, make sure you
format the drive as a Mac Hard Drive. Better to stay compatible though
and get Dantz Retrospect at the same time. I briefly had the EZQuest
but thought it noisy. There's also a one-button Maxtor drive, very mass
market, pricey, LaCie or OWC may be your best bets.
Wish I knew a bit as much about kilns and chemicals....
Kathy
* http://www.smalldog.com/category/x/x/storage/storage/wag113/wag10013/
May Luk on fri 1 oct 04
Hi Gail;
Don't know much about IDE and ATA, but....
How much space do you need and how often do you back up? Do you need to back
up every night with Retrospect? Do you make big files like videos and music
files?
How much file and time can you afford to lose? Sometimes, you don't need to
back up everything if you are in a home, small business situation. I have a
G4 powerbook [OS9.2] and I only have 16 GB altogether in my computer. A hard
drive with 160-200 GB is really big and maybe you don't need to spend the
money for now. Do you need that kind of capacity?
It used to be that we try to have expandable and upgradable machines, but
with the technology going faster and cheaper, it seems like buying new
computer is cheaper and easier than trying to add on to older machines.
Eventually, you will have to buy a new computer. My studio colleague just
bought an ebook- about $1000. and she gets airport card and OSX and
everything. I think it's even a G5. A couple years ago, I bought a zip drive
for a couple of hundred dollars because I thought I needed a removable disk.
I bearly used it. Now I have a flash USB drive I wear on my neck for 40
bucks and it has more storage than the zip.
If you don't have much to back up, how about just burning CD? It's cheap and
not that much work. There's a shareware called "CD Finder" that would help
your find your file in a pile of CD's for $15. You just have to be sensible
in naming the files and be a bit organized.
My drive is partitioned 4 parts- Hard drive for the system, App Drive for
software only. Work drive for documents only. The empty 4th drive for
scratch disk for working in graphic programmes. I have a good back up for
the system and the application folder, so I only need to back up my work
folder from time to time - esp. after I did an important job [not likely,
but it could happen.] I have an Ipod, so I just copy my whole work folder
into the Ipod from time to time - and it double up as a music player. :-)
Regards
May
London, UK
Gail Dapogny on fri 1 oct 04
Thanks, May. It could be that I don't need so much backup. I'll do
some more research. Your thoughts are helpful, Gail
On Oct 1, 2004, at 5:01 AM, May Luk wrote:
> Hi Gail;
>
> Don't know much about IDE and ATA, but....
>
> How much space do you need and how often do you back up? Do you need
> to back
> up every night with Retrospect? Do you make big files like videos and
> music
> files?
>
> How much file and time can you afford to lose? Sometimes, you don't
> need to
> back up everything if you are in a home, small business situation. I
> have a
> G4 powerbook [OS9.2] and I only have 16 GB altogether in my computer.
> A hard
> drive with 160-200 GB is really big and maybe you don't need to spend
> the
> money for now. Do you need that kind of capacity?
>
> It used to be that we try to have expandable and upgradable machines,
> but
> with the technology going faster and cheaper, it seems like buying new
> computer is cheaper and easier than trying to add on to older machines.
> Eventually, you will have to buy a new computer. My studio colleague
> just
> bought an ebook- about $1000. and she gets airport card and OSX and
> everything. I think it's even a G5. A couple years ago, I bought a zip
> drive
> for a couple of hundred dollars because I thought I needed a removable
> disk.
> I bearly used it. Now I have a flash USB drive I wear on my neck for 40
> bucks and it has more storage than the zip.
>
> If you don't have much to back up, how about just burning CD? It's
> cheap and
> not that much work. There's a shareware called "CD Finder" that would
> help
> your find your file in a pile of CD's for $15. You just have to be
> sensible
> in naming the files and be a bit organized.
>
> My drive is partitioned 4 parts- Hard drive for the system, App Drive
> for
> software only. Work drive for documents only. The empty 4th drive for
> scratch disk for working in graphic programmes. I have a good back up
> for
> the system and the application folder, so I only need to back up my
> work
> folder from time to time - esp. after I did an important job [not
> likely,
> but it could happen.] I have an Ipod, so I just copy my whole work
> folder
> into the Ipod from time to time - and it double up as a music player.
> :-)
>
> Regards
> May
> London, UK
>
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Arnold Howard on fri 1 oct 04
Just recently I bought an 80 gig Iomega external hard drive, which I use for
backing up data at home. At Paragon I have two Buslink hard drives, which I
rotate when I do backups.
The Iomega drive comes with software that automatically backs up directories
that you specify. The drive was $139. I've never had a problem with external
drives so far, because I keep them disconnected. I plug them in only when I
am making backups.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
arnoldhoward@att.net / www.paragonweb.com
> > Apologies for this being OT, but I've decided to emulate Mel and
> > purchase an external hard drive for backup purposes. Looking at
> > various deals, I'm confused by the terms IDE and ATA. Can someone
> > please enlighten me? By the way, I have a MAC G4 Laptop and I'm
> > looking to acquire something like a 160-200 GB, USB/Firewire device
> > without having to re-mortgage our house.
> > Thanks in advance, Gail
> >
> > Gail Dapogny
> > Ann Arbor, Michigan
> > gdapogny@umich.edu
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