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skill and control as a goal of art/craft: ron roy

updated sun 5 oct 03

 

Malcolm Schosha on thu 2 oct 03


Ron,

I think this is an excellant explanation of the process. The potter
knows the craft from the ground up, but the intuitive (creative)
impulse is from above down. Knowing the techincal possibilities, and
limitations, the potter uses the intuitive impulse to make the idea
into a reality ..... Whatever. You already explained it better than I
can.

And thanks for the link to your pottery. Very nice, beautiful really.

Malcolm Schosha
Brooklyn, NY
.......................................


--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Ron Roy wrote:
>
> When we - as potters - come up with ideas we need to find the ways
to do
> it. It is part of the creativity - especially in clay and glazes.
>
> Vinces statement implies (again) that excellent control is somehow a
> disadvantage. It is certainly not for the creative souls that work
in clay.
>
> If I can use a glaze as an example. Years ago I decided that a
shino glaze
> would be useful in some of my ideas. The trouble is - none of the
available
> glazes were right - and there are hundreds of them around.
>
> I used calculation software to analyse as many as possible - and
paid
> careful attention to which looked the best to me. This gave me the
clues I
> needed to develop my shino - which is unique and what I want.
>
> You can see a picture of that glaze on page 291 of Hoppers redo of
Rhodes
> "Clay and Glazes for the potter."
> You can also see examples of my creativity at -
> http://digitalfire.com/education/people/ronroy.htm
>
>
> What I am saying here is - having control for the creative potters
adds to
> that creativity. If you are the type of person who is seduced by
technique
> and control then it can be a disadvantage - unless of course - you
have the
> discipline to ignore it when it is not useful.
>
> If you are only interesting in duplicating others pots then you
must have
> good technique - and that is why so many find themselves unable to
make
> their own pots - it becomes a trap. Again - control is not the
problem - it
> is the person without enough creativity and courage to break free.
>
> If creativity and making your own pots is the aim - pay less
attention to
> all those wonderful pots we potters love to look at and hold - and
pay more
> attention to what you want - and get the control you need to do it.
>
> It is not the control that is the problem - it is the person. If
you are
> afraid of becoming addicted to control then only learn what you
need to get
> by. If you are creative - get as much as you can - it can only
enhance your
> chances of success.
>
> RR
>
>
>
> Ron Roy
> RR#4
> 15084 Little Lake Road
> Brighton, Ontario
> Canada
> K0K 1H0
> Phone: 613-475-9544
> Fax: 613-475-3513
>
>
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Ron Roy on sat 4 oct 03


Thank you Malcolm,

And thanks again for sending it to Clay Art - RR

>Ron,
>
>I think this is an excellant explanation of the process. The potter
>knows the craft from the ground up, but the intuitive (creative)
>impulse is from above down. Knowing the techincal possibilities, and
>limitations, the potter uses the intuitive impulse to make the idea
>into a reality ..... Whatever. You already explained it better than I
>can.
>
>And thanks for the link to your pottery. Very nice, beautiful really.
>
>Malcolm Schosha
>Brooklyn, NY

Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Phone: 613-475-9544
Fax: 613-475-3513

Lee Love on sun 5 oct 03


----- Original Message -----
From: "Malcolm Schosha"


> I think this is an excellant explanation of the process. The potter
> knows the craft from the ground up, but the intuitive (creative)
> impulse is from above down. Knowing the techincal possibilities, and
> limitations, the potter uses the intuitive impulse to make the idea
> into a reality ..... Whatever. You already explained it better than I
> can.

Nicely said Malcolm. I agree.

Lee In Mashiko