primalmommy on thu 2 oct 03
my pet theory (stop me if you've heard this one) is that the attraction
of drinking warm comforting liquid from a tea bowl recalls our earliest
memories of nursing... holding a warm rounded shape, drinking, feeling
safe and happy.
If I could get a big grant I could study whether people's preferences
for bowl/cup shapes correlates to the shape/size of their mothers'
breasts... and whether bottle fed babies prefer bottle shapes or mugs
with handles or something.
It was said that the holy grail was formed over the perfect (don't
start) breast of Helen of Troy... I tried an experiment of that sort but
got a sort of asymmetrical, fairly generous soup-bowl sort of form with
an annoying dent in the bottom ;0) and anyway the clay was too cold and
too soft and the whole thing sagged after a while.. (they do that...)
mel is the one who taught us that the traditional tea bowl has a little
nipple in the bottom.. i wrote that here once and Nils Lou himself wrote
me off list to say it's "darn hard to get at"... (ok i printed that one
and saved it like an autograph, admittedly starstruck)..
I usually have to work harder than this to segue a breastfeeding comment
into a clay discussion... you guys just laid this one out for me.)
Of course none of this blather is as essential to clayart as, say,
figuring out whether my whole life has been a mistake, but I had to
write it just because mel says it's naughty.
And mel says we never should talk about women's cycles. Do you mean
firing cycles, mel? or motorcycles?
You should see my mother trying to explain to people that I sell..
"uh... women's things" on my website.. without going into detail.. the
whole "celebrate your moon time" thing just wasn't part of her culture
;0)
Summer is going here, too... stacking firewood.. .long underwear coming
down from the attic in time for three camping trips in the coming weeks:
cub scouts, then daisy/girl scouts, then my group of wild women friends
and our annual drink-wine-around-a-campfire-all-night-and-
talk-with-no-men-or-kids-for-miles event. An amazingly raucous ritual
for which i am making a series of commemorative hot cider/mulled wine
mugs for warming the hands.. breast shaped and comforting ones,
unglazed/burnished on the sides, glazed only inside and just over the
rim where that smooth slick warm surface rolls to meet the bare clay
like the bottom edge of a lip, and feels on the mouth like a sweet, wet
kiss..
(I haven't been so turned on by sensory detail since Mark Issenberg
brought those slippery little fruit gels things to the
hendley-issenberg-was-gonna-be-clennels workshop in tennessee... )
yours, Kelly of Troy
no red tent... but the hoop house is up in the garden in time for
frost... the long island cheese pumpkins lined up under the eaves... the
basil not yet rendered unto pesto is cowering under a series of garage
sale umbrellas planted by their handles, making the yard look like mary
poppins and friends crash landed out there.. big green fragrant bundles
of herbs hung from the rail high on my kitchen walls, a last ditch
effort to beat the coming freeze.
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Linda Christen on fri 3 oct 03
*If I could get a big grant I could study whether people's preferences
for bowl/cup shapes correlates to the shape/size of their mothers'
breasts... and whether bottle fed babies prefer bottle shapes or mugs
with handles or something.*
Actually, just the other day my husband came home from work and told me
that he had read an article somewhere saying that Mellon growers are
trying to grow smaller melons. Why? Because they have found that women
tend to only buy melons which are approximately the same size as
theirs....
I'll see if I can find out just where and how well regarded a
publication he found that one in!
* daisy/girl scouts, then my group of wild women friends
and our annual drink-wine-around-a-campfire-all-night-and-
talk-with-no-men-or-kids-for-miles event. An amazingly raucous ritual
for which i am making a series of commemorative hot cider/mulled wine
mugs for warming the hands.. *
I miss those days! Last spring we took our "Adventure Scouts" (as the
girls moved from daisy's to brownies and girl scouts they came to a
point where they didn't want to be in girl scouts but still wanted to
meet)camping last spring. This year at 13 they had their site and we
had ours next door. Different than past years, but equally as
wonderful, to see these girls who have been together since they were
5...
As for the mom camping trip, that sounds great! We never got away
without kids, but we did get away every summer with out husbands and
those are some great memories too. Enjoy them, as I can tell you do, to
the fullest. The time really does go incredibly fast.
*basil not yet rendered unto pesto is cowering underies of garage
sale umbrellas planted by their handles, making the yard look like mary
poppins and friends crash landed out there.. big green fragrant bundles
of herbs hung from the rail high on my kitchen walls, a last ditch
effort to beat the coming freeze.*
Only basil and tomatoes left in my garden and I must confess that I did
not get out there to protect them. I was up until 3am working on a
paper...remember the grad school days...
Linda in Massachusetts where fall is finally in the air, off to
administer my first exam and feeling sad about my poor little tomato
plants, but the paper is done!
PS I LOVE the umbrella idea!
piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET on fri 3 oct 03
Sevres Porcelain made in 1787 for Marie-Antoinette a type of drinking cup called a "bol sein", a "breast bowl" complete with a three post stand for support. This item was to be in the form of and molded from the breast. The book that I am getting this from stated it to be specifically a woman's breast, thank god as I certainly would not be a good subject for anything more than a saucer. The nipple is dead center and forms the bottom point of the bowl. Anyway, the Greeks made something similarly called a Mastos.
I wonder why everyone comments on teacups and breast but are hands-off of the dickhead plate that I linked to last week. I only received one comment on it.
Very disappointing. But at least I made one person laugh.
Oh well, maybe there is a workshop idea here for someone to give next summer.
Rick
Frost on the windshield this morning here in Massachusetts.
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 3 oct 03
Hi Rick,
Too...there was the 'Milk Bar' I think, in the story and
the film, 'A Clockwork Orange'...
Phil
Las Vegas
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From:
> Sevres Porcelain made in 1787 for Marie-Antoinette a type
of drinking cup called a "bol sein", a "breast bowl"
complete with a three post stand for support. This item was
to be in the form of and molded from the breast. The book
that I am getting this from stated it to be specifically a
woman's breast, thank god as I certainly would not be a good
subject for anything more than a saucer. The nipple is dead
center and forms the bottom point of the bowl. Anyway, the
Greeks made something similarly called a Mastos.
> I wonder why everyone comments on teacups and breast but
are hands-off of the dickhead plate that I linked to last
week. I only received one comment on it.
> Very disappointing. But at least I made one person laugh.
>
> Oh well, maybe there is a workshop idea here for someone
to give next summer.
>
> Rick
> Frost on the windshield this morning here in
Massachusetts.
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> "Many a wiser men than I hath
> gone to pot." 1649
>
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> "Many a wiser men than I hath
> gone to pot." 1649
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Kathie Wheater on fri 3 oct 03
>I wonder why everyone comments on teacups and breast but are hands-off of the >dickhead plate that I linked to last week. I only received one comment on it.
>Very disappointing. But at least I made one person laugh.
Perhaps it's because they're out numbered two to one?
>Oh well, maybe there is a workshop idea here for someone to give next summer.
Think it would be legal?
Lee Love on sat 4 oct 03
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From:
> I wonder why everyone comments on teacups and breast but are hands-off of
the dickhead plate that I
>linked to last week. I only received one comment on it.
> Very disappointing. But at least I made one person laugh.
I think because the teabowls topic was all banter here, on the list..
Links sometimes make people loose track of the the original post. I think
I actually end up looking at other parts of the web site and then surfed to
other pages. The web is great for ADD. ;^)
I laughed, I thought it was a lot of work for a "sight gag."
I made a novelty piece once, a "sight gag", when I was taking classes at
the UofMN (mentioned it here 12 or so years ago.). A Grad Ass., in
response to my Japanese style tea bowls at a critique asked, "Why doesn't
anybody make American tea bowls?"
At the time (during the first Gulf War), one of the students taking
a mold class was casting ceramic replicas, including a nice .45 automatic
hand gun. One casting wasn't perfect and so I asked if I could have it.
He was happy to give it to me.
I put the two halves of the .45 together and cut it in two,
between the pistol grip and the barrel. I then took one of my teabowls
and fastened the grip on one side and the barrel on the other. You could
use the grip as a handle and drink tea out of the bowl. I glazed the gun
with a gunmetal black glaze and put Minnesota Shino on the bowl, with finger
wipe decoration. It wasn't "'Merican" enough, so I stuck a small version of
the Stars & Stripes in the barrel.
It's in storage in Minneapolisn right now. Wish I had it here.
Folks would get a kick out of it., :^)
Lee In Mashiko
Hendrix, Taylor J. on sun 5 oct 03
Rick,
'cause Janet beat you to the spotted dick ages ago!
http://www.clayart.fsnet.co.uk/aesthetics1.html
Taylor, in Waco
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From: piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET
[mailto:piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET]=20
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:53 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: teabowls and other erotica
...
I wonder why everyone comments on teacups and breast but are hands-off
of the dickhead plate that I linked to last week. I only received one
comment on it....
Hendrix, Taylor J. on mon 6 oct 03
Janet,
Quite right. I knewed that. It also means (ala Phil)
"dick that has been spied..... or in other and sundry
words flitted flaccidly across one's field of vision...
so as to stimulate certain rods and cones residing in
the balls of the eyes...the original subject being plate-
borne in either case as the case may be."
My pendulous use of the queen's English notwithstanding,
I do hope you will forgive my bawdy (as described in an=20
earlier post by Ivor) puns, but it is often hard to the
point of impossibility--even here, in Waco, being as I am
surrounded by many one-eyed monsters--to contain my seminal
wit.
Taylor, in Waco
(a miracle if Mel lets this one through)
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From: Janet Kaiser [mailto:janet@THE-COA.ORG.UK]=20
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:42 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: teabowls and other erotica
...
FYI Taylor, "Spotted Dick" is a steamed sponge or or more
precisely a suet pudding with currants and raisins, much beloved
served with custard in English schools. Or it used to be...
...
Janet Kaiser on mon 6 oct 03
ROFL!!! I have just got to tell you that last time I was
shopping, I came across a French family reading labels and
debating which "English pudding" to buy at the chilling cabinet I
try hard to pass with averted eyes... They had "summer pudding"
(they were not enthralled by the white bread content but liked
the look of the summer fruits), "sticky toffee pudding" and
finally "spotted dick"! Well, the humour escaped them of course,
but we solicited grins from passing shoppers as I went into
raptures...
FYI Taylor, "Spotted Dick" is a steamed sponge or or more
precisely a suet pudding with currants and raisins, much beloved
served with custard in English schools. Or it used to be...
There was an expectant hush from the lurking shelf packer, when I
was asked, "Why is it called Spotted Dick?" :o)
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser -- Trying hard to catch up on mail...
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>'cause Janet beat you to the spotted dick ages ago!
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>Taylor, in Waco
>I wonder why everyone comments on teacups and breast but are
hands-off
>of the dickhead plate that I linked to last week. I only
received one
>comment on it....
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