Chris Schafale on thu 9 oct 03
My beloved golden retriever/border collie died last
Friday, suddenly. She was getting old, and I'm grateful
that she died quickly and without much suffering, but
I'm also pretty heartbroken. Anyway, here's the clay
part. I want to make a vessel to remember her by, I
want to use some of her ashes for the glaze, and I'd
love to be able to make it something like the color of
her fur -- that wonderful warm butterscotchy gold. Of
course, I've never seen a glaze that looked like that.
The closest I've come is a glaze with lots of rutile,
applied thin, over white clay, but it was kind of pale. I
have an "iron red" glaze that is coming out kind of
yellow-brown, but it's got a sort of greenish tinge that
I'm not crazy about. I'm thinking of trying the iron red
base with a ton of rutile and not so much iron.
Anyone have any suggestions, or seen a glaze like
this?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Chris
Light One Candle Pottery
Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina, USA
(south of Raleigh)
candle@intrex.net
http://www.lightonecandle.com
Megan Ratchford on thu 9 oct 03
Oh Chris, such a sad thing, but I'm glad she didn't suffer!
Have you tried encapsulated mason stains? I know that Tom Coleman
recommends the yellow for getting a true yellow glaze out of cone 10. They
have a color very similar to the one you're describing, costly, but for a
project like this it may be worth it...
Megan Ratchford
Denver, Colorado
Hank Murrow on thu 9 oct 03
On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 03:06 AM, Chris Schafale wrote:
> My beloved golden retriever/border collie died last
> Friday, suddenly. She was getting old, and I'm grateful
> that she died quickly and without much suffering, but
> I'm also pretty heartbroken. Anyway, here's the clay
> part. I want to make a vessel to remember her by, I
> want to use some of her ashes for the glaze, and I'd
> love to be able to make it something like the color of
> her fur -- that wonderful warm butterscotchy gold. Of
> course, I've never seen a glaze that looked like that.
> The closest I've come is a glaze with lots of rutile,
> applied thin, over white clay, but it was kind of pale. I
> have an "iron red" glaze that is coming out kind of
> yellow-brown, but it's got a sort of greenish tinge that
> I'm not crazy about. I'm thinking of trying the iron red
> base with a ton of rutile and not so much iron.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions, or seen a glaze like
> this?
Yes, Chris;
I would recognize that your ash is from bones, and therefore is calcium
phosphate. The phosphate will tend to turn your glaze towards red color
from iron, but you can modify that towards yellow with additions of
titania or rutile. I would try Ti to move the normal red from iron to
yellowish. Try conducting your testing with bone ash from your
supplier, and when you get something close to what you desire, shift to
the pet ash for final trials. that way you won't use her remains up
before you get close to the color.
Mail me off-list for a starting place recipe.
Condolences, Hank in Eugene
Barbara Reeley on thu 9 oct 03
Read about your golden retriever/collie dying, I'm sorry. We have Terra,
golden retriever/?, our dear friend. You didn't mention what cone you fire to or
clay you use. I'll compare some of my glazes to Terra and see what I can
come up with.
Barbara
In Upstate NY on an incredibly beautiful Fall day
Alisa Clausen on thu 9 oct 03
Dear Chris,
I am sorry that you dog died. I never understood how people could be so
connected to a dog until, of course, we got ours.
My test result of Annie's Tan, cone 6 ox. showed a caramel tan that was
glossy with rivulets.
In archives or at Frogpondpottery website.
Then I have Butter Satin Glsos cone 6, ox.
36 Custer Feldspar
20 3124
16 Talc
20 EPK
8 Wollastonite
ADD
3 Tin ox.
5 Rutile
showed a yellow tan smooth gloss.
Butterscoth R.R. revison.
25 Frit 3134
12 Dolomite
2 Lith. Carb
10 G200 Spar
26 Ball Clay
25 Silica
ADD
9 Titianium Diox.
4 Rutile
showed a yellowish gloss with white hare fuzz.
The ash will change these results, as your local materials. But it
something to test.
Also, if you use a dark body, of course, the glaze will react with the iron
in the body and darken
the glaze maybe to something you can use.
regards from Alisa in Denmark.
June Perry on thu 9 oct 03
Dear Chris,
So sorry to hear of your loss. I don't know if they would be what you want,
but I have a few glazes in the peach/pumpkin family. They are calcium eutectic
cone 6 matts. I have pictures and recipes on my web pages if you want to check
them out.
I also have cone 10 glazes. You didn't mention what temperature or atmosphere
you were looking for.
My web page is:
www.angelfire.com/art2/shambhalapottery/
Just scroll down the first page and your find links to 9 pages of pictures
and recipes for cone 6Ox cone 10R as well as C10 soda fire glazes and engobes.
Regards,
June Perry
http://www.angelfire.com/art2/shambhalapottery/
Chris Schafale on thu 9 oct 03
Thanks so much for all the sympathy and the great
suggestions for glazes. I should have said in my
message that I fire cone 6 ox., but all the suggestions
are helpful since they give me some good directions for
colorants and flux combinations.
I know that I'm going to be missing my Cari-dog for a
very long time, but maybe this project will help keep
her with me a little longer.
Chris
Light One Candle Pottery
Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina, USA
(south of Raleigh)
candle@intrex.net
http://www.lightonecandle.com
Josie Norman on fri 10 oct 03
Chris, I'm so sorry for your lose, there's nothing like a golden and they leave a huge hole when they are gone. I made golden retriever plates a few years ago. I used Mason stain Golden AmbrosiaAmbrosia it made a very gold color. I fired cone 10 it looked good I sold alot of plates.
Josie Norman
crackedpot933@earthlink.net
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
Geoffrey Gaskell on fri 10 oct 03
Chris Schafale wrote:
>My beloved golden retriever/border collie died last
>Friday, suddenly. She was getting old, and I'm grateful
>that she died quickly and without much suffering, but
>I'm also pretty heartbroken. Anyway, here's the clay
>part. I want to make a vessel to remember her by, I
>want to use some of her ashes for the glaze, and I'd
>love to be able to make it something like the color of
>her fur -- that wonderful warm butterscotchy gold. Of
>course, I've never seen a glaze that looked like that.
>
I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your much loved pet, but we can at
least appreciate the fact that she would clearly have had a very good
and comfortable life in a loving home.
I am currently getting light golden brown tortoise-shell(ish) patterned
colours on some pottery I have recently been working on simply by
painting on fairly generously a commercial slip to which I have added
probably about 3% or 4% manganese oxide (sorry, but I'm one of these
eccentric and annoying people who tends to work with alchemical abandon
rather than with chemical precision - thereby producing "Limited
Editions"). It doesn't seem to matter whether the slip is applied on
greenware and bisqued first or subsequently applied on plain bisqued
ware and immediately covered in a commercial clear glaze and fired at
1260C in the electric kiln: the effect is the same. Playing around with
test tiles is recommended.
Geoffrey Gaskell
PS: Actually this effect is one that I at least have been able to repeat
consistently by my heavy-handed lack of method, but strangely eludes
others who imitate it using exactly the same ingredients. I have no idea
why, nor do they. People can freely watch me preparing my concoctions
(sometimes in horror, I suspect).
Snail Scott on fri 10 oct 03
At 01:20 AM 10/10/03 +1300, you wrote:
>...I'd
>>love to be able to make it something like the color of
>>her fur -- that wonderful warm butterscotchy gold.
Here's one that's sort of warm bright orangey-brown
matte. It's lightest and yellowest (and most variegated)
when applied thick. It's orangest in reduction and
browner in oxidation, and the colors are richer and
brighter when slow-cooled. It seems slightly nicer on
red clay, but I can't be sure, since I didn't use it on
white clay until after I switched to oxidation. It works
very well for 'one-shot' firing on greenware.
BURBOE GLAZE ^6 redux (OK in ox)
6.8 Bone Ash
6.8 Barium Carb
11.4 Dolomite
2.3 Lithium Carb
22.7 Albany Slip
22.7 F-4 feldspar
27.3 OM-4 ball clay
+ 9.1 Opax
4.5 Zinc Ox
2.3 RIO
2.3 Rutile
I currently use Superpax in place of the Opax,
and Alberta slip since I ran out of Albany slip.
Seems to look about the same. It accommodates a
wide range of firing temperatures, and isn't fussy.
No claims made for food-safety; I haven't checked.
(Original maker forgotten; got it from an old CM.)
-Snail
Alycia Goeke on sat 11 oct 03
hi chris,
sorry to hear about your loss. we have an old pup that is going on fifteen. i
know he won't be around for much longer but still hard to believe. we have
been together for so long....
as for a glaze...i have a recipe for a celadon cone 6. if used on a white
clay body, it comes out looking very much like the color of a golden retriever.
being a glaze that is fired in oxidation, it doesn't have a lot of depth but it
is soft and creamy and golden.
konda f-4 70
flint 12
whiting 16
bentonite 3
red iron ox 3
epson salt .5
best wishes,
alyica
Kathy Greaves on fri 17 oct 03
Chris,
Sorry to hear of your loss! I may know of a good glaze for you to try. I
tried the Golden Fake Ash cone 6 glaze listed in the archives as a possible
glaze to incorporate the ashes of a friend of mine in for some memorial
vases. It came out as a very interesting butterscotch to light brown with a
matte to glossy surface, and brought out any textures nicely. When applied
thin it stays a matte butterscotch and becomes glossy brown where thick.
Kathy Greaves
Granite Bay, CA
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