Pamela Watkins on wed 15 oct 03
Billie:
I'm here to help in any way.........just let me know.
Peace,
Pamela
~jaq
Marianne Lombardo wrote:
Hey Billie, what a good idea! I know that I sure benefited from all the
help and support I received from claybuds. Count me in.
Marianne
> cancer seems to be everywhere these days. everywhere i turn i hear about
> someone else. i would like to start a clayart buddy support group for
> those of us who have been through it and can help others who are going
> through it now or in the future. is anyone here interested in doing this
> with me. we all can help each other. it helps to talk to someone who has
> been through it.
> if you would like to help me start this group or just to help please let
me
> know.
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Craig Dunn Clark on wed 15 oct 03
Billie, a dear friend of mine died from cancer. It was the most horrific
thing that I ever witnessed. He went from a muscular 260lbs to about 120lbs
in less than two months. Looked like those folks you see in the old black
and white photos from the concentration camps in the end. Gave the eulogy at
the funeral. Most difficult thing I've ever done. Let me know if I can be of
any help.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billie Mitchell"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: clayart cancer buddy support
> cancer seems to be everywhere these days. everywhere i turn i hear about
> someone else. i would like to start a clayart buddy support group for
> those of us who have been through it and can help others who are going
> through it now or in the future. is anyone here interested in doing this
> with me. we all can help each other. it helps to talk to someone who has
> been through it.
> if you would like to help me start this group or just to help please let
me
> know.
>
> thanks billie mitchell
> artistswc@aol.com
>
>
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Billie Mitchell on wed 15 oct 03
cancer seems to be everywhere these days. everywhere i turn i hear about
someone else. i would like to start a clayart buddy support group for
those of us who have been through it and can help others who are going
through it now or in the future. is anyone here interested in doing this
with me. we all can help each other. it helps to talk to someone who has
been through it.
if you would like to help me start this group or just to help please let me
know.
thanks billie mitchell
artistswc@aol.com
Marianne Lombardo on wed 15 oct 03
Hey Billie, what a good idea! I know that I sure benefited from all the
help and support I received from claybuds. Count me in.
Marianne
> cancer seems to be everywhere these days. everywhere i turn i hear about
> someone else. i would like to start a clayart buddy support group for
> those of us who have been through it and can help others who are going
> through it now or in the future. is anyone here interested in doing this
> with me. we all can help each other. it helps to talk to someone who has
> been through it.
> if you would like to help me start this group or just to help please let
me
> know.
Ann Tschoerner on thu 16 oct 03
i am just a lurker...however, i have to make a comment about this
well-intentioned post. a cancer support group is a good thing, but assuming
people...potters...like me who are living...dealing...with cancer are
reading these messages, the one from craig made my tummy do a
flip-flop...the visual was just a little too much. the "concentration camp"
person in the future...possibly being me, was an image i didn't need. maybe
it's just me. describing your friend's death to one or two others, but on a
listserv like this, i just don't know. i'm not up in arms about
it...but....we all know the gruesome reality of the disease.
humor has been a huge part of my way to deal with cancer. i kept teaching
through my surgery, chemo and radiation...my students were great and we all
got much more than art experiences from my classes that year...and the
things that the students said, sometimes poignant, most of the time just so
funny, they made me get out of bed each morning and keep going....the most
memorable remark was made by one of my senior guys, i knew that there had
been some interest in my job, and one morning he said, "you know, you have
really pissed some people off by not dying so they could have your job." i
guess everything is just a learning experience.
ann
thinking about all the pots to raku tomorrow
paris, tx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Dunn Clark"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: clayart cancer buddy support
> Billie, a dear friend of mine died from cancer. It was the most horrific
> thing that I ever witnessed. He went from a muscular 260lbs to about
120lbs
> in less than two months. Looked like those folks you see in the old black
> and white photos from the concentration camps in the end. Gave the eulogy
at
> the funeral. Most difficult thing I've ever done. Let me know if I can be
of
> any help.
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 st
> Houston, Texas 77008
> (713)861-2083
> mudman@hal-pc.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Billie Mitchell"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:44 AM
> Subject: clayart cancer buddy support
>
>
> > cancer seems to be everywhere these days. everywhere i turn i hear about
> > someone else. i would like to start a clayart buddy support group for
> > those of us who have been through it and can help others who are going
> > through it now or in the future. is anyone here interested in doing
this
> > with me. we all can help each other. it helps to talk to someone who has
> > been through it.
> > if you would like to help me start this group or just to help please let
> me
> > know.
> >
> > thanks billie mitchell
> > artistswc@aol.com
> >
> >
>
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Susan Setley on fri 17 oct 03
I had a different experience with cancer in another discussion group.
One of the people was diagnosed with the disease, and people had all sorts of
wonderfully thoughtful ideas, such as to use email to organize a mailing
campaign to send her cards, little trinkets, etc.
It was very kind, but someone had the sense to ask her, and she asked them
not to. Cancer was part of her life, but not her whole life. She did not want
discussion group to suddenly be about her cancer. It already dominated too much
of her life.
She, too, asked that any discussion of it, including even good wishes, be
kept in email. Then she KNEW she could come to that discussion group and focus on
other things.
Bonnie Staffel on sat 18 oct 03
Dear Clayarters,
I also had cancer long ago and joined a Cancer Society Survivor group. The
mission was to visit new mastectomy patients just out of the operation to
show that there is life after cancer. I did this for a number of years but
seemed like every patient had a very upbeat attitude in spite of my visit;
had a good support system in the home. I gave it up a couple of years ago
because it was bringing the specter of cancer into my life where I had
gotten on with it. It was really depressing me. I live with the idea that
the other shoe could always drop, but I am too busy pursuing goals that I
may not have thought of had I not had cancer. Actually I did have another
onset of the disease in another part of my body about ten years after the
first one, but recovered from that nicely. However, felt that the stress of
a difficult marriage was not helping me. So got out of that situation and
feel that I can live my life to the fullest. I already have fulfilled many
of my goals and have to keep thinking up others. This is the message I give
to anyone facing a life threatening disease, to think ahead, keep working at
what you love, look for new challenges in your life. One thing I never want
is a "poor pity me" attitude for myself or from others. My first cancer was
a wake-up call that I better achieve some of the things I only dreamed of
while I am alive. The second bout put them in action in my move to the
Campbell Folk School.
Thanks for listening from a survivor, not a victim.
Bonnie Staffel, Charlevoix, MI
Billie Mitchell on thu 30 oct 03
im so sorry i am way behind on clayart.. the intention isnt to tell the bad
tales of cancer with the cancer clayart support group.. its to lend support
and to help others with what they are dealing with. no one understands what
is like going through cancer better than someone who has dealt with it. i
have emailed with other clayart buddies going through cancer.. i always try
to keep it on the upbeat. its a long hard battle and we all need someone to
talk to with our fears and our hopes and dreams. i am a prime example of
what you can do when you win that fight. i have been through it twice. i
know thats one of our biggest fears what happens if it comes back.. well it
did with me and i fought it.. i have been cancer free for almost 6 yrs or
is it 7? hmm will have to do the math. i am just now starting to get to
those dreams that i had while going through treatment. i loved your story
about how your students helped you through your treatment. what a joy that
must have been. to have the humor of kids to help you through your fight.
thats something that you share to help others with their fight in the
future. i hope that this will help you with your fears of what we will be
all about.. just know that we all can help and support each other in
differnt ways.
thanks
billie mitchell
artistswc@bellsouth.net
Jan Goodland Metz on fri 31 oct 03
Well I will throw my two cents in here and if anyone has questions I'll
try and answer them off list, just email me at metzj@salve.edu.
My sister had Sarcoma, 8 years ago, and was given 2 months to live from
the time they removed the tumor. I started doing some research while
they were flying her tumor around the country to diagnosis what kind of
cancer it was, I came up with vitamins and foods for her to eat and the
foods from the macrobiotic diet. To make a long story short in one month
of eating the macrobiotic diet she was able to change her blood
chemistry and kill the cancer which was a metastasized stage four, the
diet and vitamins worked so well they never figured out where the
primary site was. Her doctors labeled her as having a "spontaneous
remission" and they said "we don't want to know what you are doing but
keep doing it." She then went to University Hospital in Cleveland and
they used what at the time was an experimental procedure, PET scans.
This type of scan, they inject radioactive glucose and then scan your
body. Cancer cells take up the glucose faster (their metabolism is
faster) than the healthy cells and so very small areas of cancer can be
seen like in the lymph nodes.
There are a couple of books "The Cancer Prevention diet" by Michio
Kushi, "20 people who survived Cancer Naturally" the web site is
http://www.kushiinstitute.org
They have an online store you can buy food and books and there is a lot
of info on this site.
Basically it is the homemade daily miso soup of Kombu seaweed, brown
miso, shitake mushrooms, Daikon radish. These ingredients all have
properties which attack tumors and can collapse the fragile blood
vessels that supply tumors. Also miatake mushroom extract has been used
for years in Japan to attack brain tumors.
This diet also helped a friend in Wisconsin who had lung cancer, was
told she had 6 months to live and go home and get her affairs in order.
Six months later she went back to the same doctor and he declared her
cancer free.
You can do this diet inconjunction with the regular stuff chemo etc. or
by itself, good luck and enjoy the seaweed, I eat some ever week.
Jan
in Rhode Island where it is just beautiful today
Billie Mitchell wrote:
>im so sorry i am way behind on clayart.. the intention isnt to tell the bad
>tales of cancer with the cancer clayart support group.. its to lend support
>and to help others with what they are dealing with. no one understands what
>is like going through cancer better than someone who has dealt with it. i
>have emailed with other clayart buddies going through cancer.. i always try
>to keep it on the upbeat. its a long hard battle and we all need someone to
>talk to with our fears and our hopes and dreams. i am a prime example of
>what you can do when you win that fight. i have been through it twice. i
>know thats one of our biggest fears what happens if it comes back.. well it
>did with me and i fought it.. i have been cancer free for almost 6 yrs or
>is it 7? hmm will have to do the math. i am just now starting to get to
>those dreams that i had while going through treatment. i loved your story
>about how your students helped you through your treatment. what a joy that
>must have been. to have the humor of kids to help you through your fight.
>thats something that you share to help others with their fight in the
>future. i hope that this will help you with your fears of what we will be
>all about.. just know that we all can help and support each other in
>differnt ways.
>
>thanks
>billie mitchell
>artistswc@bellsouth.net
>
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