David Hendley on tue 21 oct 03
"Throwing standing up" is somewhat of a misnomer. What I, and
most other standing throwers, do is actually "throwing while leaning".
To me, it is actually pretty tiring to stand. Leaning, with bent knees
and most of my weight on one leg, however, is relaxing.
You need to position your wheel so you have a wall, shelf, or some
other stationary object to lean against.
The best article to read on the subject is on line at the Studio Potter
website, at http://www.studiopotter.org/articles/?art=art0008
In it John Glick shows you how to build a brace to lean against.
David Hendley
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I've recently been trying to learn throwing up standing. I've had a
William Lucius on thu 23 oct 03
There are always several ways to reach the same destination.
On a recent trip to Talavera, Spain, we managed to watch a production potter
throwing side-saddle (hey, I am from the West). It isn't standing up, but I
was impressed with the potter did not lean forward as much as turn sideways
to throw. I did notice that he used a very soft earthenware clay. Although
he was throwing small pots while we were there, the large pots on a shelf
indicates that it is possible to throw large forms in what seemed to me to
be a very awkward position. But if he saw me throwing he probably would
wonder why I throw that way.
I have had a bad back since playing football in High School and on the rare
occasion that I throw on one of those low electric wheels I remember the
pain. I have a second-hand combination kick and electric wheel with a bench
seat made by an unknown potter and find it easy to use, given that it is
made to force you to keep a fairly straight back.
William A. Lucius, Board President
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Adam Yungbluth on wed 8 jun 05
when i throw standing I have the wheel, a brent, placed on either two
cinderblocks on their side or one standing with a three inch hard brick
ontop of either. Generally when throwing tall things i make them in
sections where I will let the body siffen up then attach a cylinder i
started and go from there. if it does get tall enough i will stand on
another block, or get on my toes
adam
>Do you lower the wheel?
>Do you use a step?
>Do you not do tall forms?
>
>Just curious.
>--
>Earl K...
>Bothell WA, USA
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Cindy in SD on wed 8 jun 05
Earl, I use a step-stool.
URL Krueger wrote:
>Dumb question #12,432
>
>Last night I challenged myself to see how tall a cylinder I
>could throw from a 1 kg ball of clay. After a couple of
>pulls I found that I was contorting my body in strange ways
>to keep my left (inside the pot hand) elbow straight up. I
>eventually stood up and with arms straight and by bending
>over made the last pulls.
>
>Now, my dumb question. For those of you who stand while
>throwing how do you manage tall forms?
>
>Do you lower the wheel?
>Do you use a step?
>Do you not do tall forms?
>
>Just curious.
>--
>Earl K...
>Bothell WA, USA
>
>
>
URL Krueger on wed 8 jun 05
Dumb question #12,432
Last night I challenged myself to see how tall a cylinder I
could throw from a 1 kg ball of clay. After a couple of
pulls I found that I was contorting my body in strange ways
to keep my left (inside the pot hand) elbow straight up. I
eventually stood up and with arms straight and by bending
over made the last pulls.
Now, my dumb question. For those of you who stand while
throwing how do you manage tall forms?
Do you lower the wheel?
Do you use a step?
Do you not do tall forms?
Just curious.
--
Earl K...
Bothell WA, USA
Wayne Seidl on thu 9 jun 05
Earl:
Go to your nearest craft store and buy (in your choice of colors)
approximately 25 feather boas. Braid them into a sling, and hang it
above the wheel. (Tony can give you detailed directions.)
Then climb in and go for it.
Actually, I use a small step stool :>) My wheelhead is about 36
inches above the floor.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of URL
Krueger
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:39 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Throwing while standing
Dumb question #12,432
Last night I challenged myself to see how tall a cylinder I
could throw from a 1 kg ball of clay. After a couple of
pulls I found that I was contorting my body in strange ways
to keep my left (inside the pot hand) elbow straight up. I
eventually stood up and with arms straight and by bending
over made the last pulls.
Now, my dumb question. For those of you who stand while
throwing how do you manage tall forms?
Do you lower the wheel?
Do you use a step?
Do you not do tall forms?
Just curious.
--
Earl K...
Bothell WA, USA
Dale Neese on thu 9 jun 05
I throw as tall as I can with the first ball of clay then add coils of clay
or another thrown section and go on up.
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas USA
GO SPURS
Bacia Edelman on thu 9 jun 05
Hi. To answer your "dumb" question, I don't throw tall forms any more.
My major work is handbuilt, anyway, and I often throw parts to join
to handbuilt parts since I make vessels, mugs, ewers, teapots primarily.
I also have moved the reostat so that I control it with my hand, clay-
covered or not, so I don't distort my aging back.
I can still center and throw 12 lbs. if the clay is soft but that isn't
where I am going in my work, getting ready for two fall shows with another
woman who is reflecting my forms, sort of, in metal and paper.
To add a personal problem, I have a bad knee, the one that didn't
have surgery for a crumbled patella accident almost 3 yrs. ago. If I
throw an hr. or more, standing, the knee aches. So I went to Madison's
Stool Store
and bought their only 36" stool, which I can still return. It was
a floor model so he knocked the price down (hah!) and with tax it was
$200. Now my studio has too many stools, one by the spray booth, two
I move all over and this monster. If I need to get closer to the wheel
or forget a tool, it is almost like getting off and on a horse.
I can't delay a return much longer, and I am still deciding. The seat
is padded but that was the only stool higher than 30" in stock. I rest my
foot w/
the bad knee on a tiny stool. Store owner said any stool, ordered by
catalog or not, if over 30", is going to cost that much.
I know it is I who have to make the decision. Any comments? I really
don't have time this week to do much throwing in order to decide/test further.
Bacia
Dumb question #12,432
Last night I challenged myself to see how tall a cylinder I
could throw from a 1 kg ball of clay. After a couple of
pulls I found that I was contorting my body in strange ways
to keep my left (inside the pot hand) elbow straight up. I
eventually stood up and with arms straight and by bending
over made the last pulls.
Now, my dumb question. For those of you who stand while
throwing how do you manage tall forms?
Do you lower the wheel?
Do you use a step?
(next question was do you just not throw tall pots.
The remainder of your post didn't get copied and I am driving out
of town on a business errand momentarily!)
Bacia Edelman
Madison, Wisconsin
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http://www.silverhawk.com/artisan/clay/edelman/index.html
Carole Fox on thu 9 jun 05
Earl - being somewhat vertically challenged, and with short arms to boot, I
frequently have to stand to work tall pots. I have also occasionally
thrown at a wheel with leg extensions to enable throwing from a standing
postion. In both cases, I have used a small step stool to stand on, but
only when necessary. I don't have room on the stool for the foot pedal,
so have to set the wheel speed first, then get up on the stool.
Using a throwing stick also helps.
Carole Fox
Dayton, OH
dannon rhudy on thu 9 jun 05
Ah ha! I throw standing, generally, and that is
all to the good. However, for tall forms I use
my other wheel, which is on the floor at regular
height. However, as I am short, I use a tall stool
to throw things such as tall vases, lamps, etc. I
just bend down to center (feels good, stretches
the back) and then when I pull I am actually PULLING.
If I try to throw tall forms sitting on a short potters
stool, by the time the piece is 12" or so, I am pushing
instead of pullling. Doesn't work so well. I can pull
pieces the length of my arm by using a tall stool, no
trouble. I'd like to say that I invented that idea, but
in fact I stole it from Val Cushing. And maybe he
stole it from someone else. See what happens? Potters
are thieves by nature, eh?
I've used a stool to throw tall pieces standing, but don't
like that so well. I feel unstable. I probably am unstable,
what with one thing and another......
regards
Dannon Rhudy
David Beumee on thu 9 jun 05
Url wrote,
For those of you who stand while
> throwing how do you manage tall forms?
>
> Do you lower the wheel?
> Do you use a step?
> Do you not do tall forms?
Yes, I throw tall forms while standing at the wheel. I tried using a small step stool but I find it very unstable. I have two plywood/2x4 boxes, 27 x 27 x 3", and 27 x 27 x 4 1/2", that are very stable to stand on, and I use the shorter one first and stack the taller box on top for really tall and two piece forms. 25 years stooped over a wheel was more than too much for my back. I've been standing for five years now and it's a godsend. I also built a box around my wheel to lean against and rest my arms on, and it provides an excellent work space for tools. Also, trimmings don't land on the floor anymore.
David Beumee
Lafayette, CO
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: URL Krueger
> Dumb question #12,432
>
> Last night I challenged myself to see how tall a cylinder I
> could throw from a 1 kg ball of clay. After a couple of
> pulls I found that I was contorting my body in strange ways
> to keep my left (inside the pot hand) elbow straight up. I
> eventually stood up and with arms straight and by bending
> over made the last pulls.
>
> Now, my dumb question.
>
> Just curious.
> --
> Earl K...
> Bothell WA, USA
>
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Mike Gordon on thu 9 jun 05
Earl, I don't have a clue what a 1 kg. ball is in pounds, but I
regularly throw with 25 pounds and after the initial opening and a few
pulls I stand up and brace my right hand on my leg or hip. You can
expect to be in a bent over position for a long time. Stretching is a
must and several breaks to bend your back in the opposite direction
helps a lot. Mike Gordon
On Jun 8, 2005, at 6:38 PM, URL Krueger wrote:
> Dumb question #12,432
>
> Last night I challenged myself to see how tall a cylinder I
> could throw from a 1 kg ball of clay. After a couple of
> pulls I found that I was contorting my body in strange ways
> to keep my left (inside the pot hand) elbow straight up. I
> eventually stood up and with arms straight and by bending
> over made the last pulls.
>
> Now, my dumb question. For those of you who stand while
> throwing how do you manage tall forms?
>
> Do you lower the wheel?
> Do you use a step?
> Do you not do tall forms?
>
> Just curious.
> --
> Earl K...
> Bothell WA, USA
>
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Malcolm Schosha on thu 9 jun 05
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, URL Krueger wrote:
> Dumb question #12,432
>
> Last night I challenged myself to see how tall a cylinder I
> could throw from a 1 kg ball of clay. After a couple of
> pulls I found that I was contorting my body in strange ways
> to keep my left (inside the pot hand) elbow straight up. I
> eventually stood up and with arms straight and by bending
> over made the last pulls.
>
..............
Earl,
To answer a question that you did not ask, in Italy, Spain and Greece
the problem you experienced throwing a tall pot is solved by throwing
sitting on the left side of the wheel. That makes it possible to have
the left arm upright inside the pot. This link shows a potter working
on a rather typical Italian wheel.
http://www.ceramistidigrottaglie.it/letecnologie.htm
Malcolm Schosha
bonnie staffel on fri 10 jun 05
Earl, in my prime when I was throwing tall pots by centering balls of clay,
I would start sitting down and then stand up as the pot rose. I could make
a pot about as long as my arm. Now that I use my easy method of throwing
with coils, I start by sitting down, and then stand up as the pot rises,
then stand on a platform as it gets taller yet, and then wishing my kiln was
tall enough to fire the pot that I would like to make. Too shaky to climb
on scaffolding now, but it sure seems like an option for some enterprising
potters. I have to be satisfied with 25" pots and can throw about two per
day. Have to explore making them in two sections and glue them together
some day. Dream on, Bonnie. Isn't it amazing what "self taught" potters
can create? Wish you success, Earl.
I am attending Brian Gartside's workshop as an assistant which starts next
Wednesday. The class is filled and I am looking forward to meeting him and
trying his experimental glaze techniques. If any of you Clayarters have
signed up, I will be excited to meet you, however I didn't recognize the
names of some of the registrants.
Warm regards,
Bonnie Staffel
http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
http://vasefinder.com/bstaffelgallery1.html
Charter Member Potters Council
John Jensen on fri 10 jun 05
Actually, I have two wheels, one for standing and one for sitting. When
I've gotten in a situation with a tall form while throwing on the =
"standing"
wheel, I've brought in some little footstools and stepladders to get me =
a
bit higher. It hasn't happened often, though.
John Jensen, Mudbug Pottery
John Jensen@mudbugpottery.com
http://www.toadhouse.com www://www.mudbugpottery.com
>
> Now, my dumb question. For those of you who stand while
> throwing how do you manage tall forms?
>
> Do you lower the wheel?
> Do you use a step?
> Do you not do tall forms?
>
> Just curious.
> --
> Earl K...
> Bothell WA, USA
URL Krueger on sat 11 jun 05
On Thursday 09 June 2005 09:41 pm, bonnie staffel wrote:
> Earl, in my prime when I was throwing tall pots by
> centering balls of clay, I would start sitting down and
> then stand up as the pot rose.
When you were in your prime ???? HUH ???
Ms. Bonnie, you _are_ in your prime !!!
You are the Mama of the big dogs.
I threw my question out there to all you folks because I
thought it would be fun to see how you all handled a simple
little problem common to everybody. It was fun, and
enlightening.
Thanks, all.
--
Earl K...
Bothell WA, USA
Carol Tripp on sun 12 jun 05
I don't make large pots, generally, but my mom was here a few months back
and she made five beautiful cut paper lampshades for me. Ugh - to make the
lamp bases... I watched Tony C's Macho Big Pots video (well done) and got to
work. How to throw once the pots got too tall? I tried standing but didn't
like that and then I had one of those "light bulb moments" and I used the
lever under my swivel potters stool to raise the seat way up.
Best regards,
Carol
Dubai
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Carol Tripp wrote:
> How to throw once the pots got too tall?
John Reeve shared a story with us at a workshop at Norther Clay Center.
Some museum folks, I think from the Victoria and Albert, brought him
some pots, including broken ones. They were Old English tall pitchers
with those funny pie crust bottoms. John said, after some examination,
he figure these tall pitchers were thrown, bottom first:
Throw a pancake and set it aside. Then throw the bottom upside down,
thinning it out to the thickness you want on the bottom. Set the
cylinder aside or torch it until it is strong enough, then attach the
bottom to the cylinder. I carefully cut the pancake off the wheel head
so it has a nice clamshell mark on the bottom and then I am careful not
to smudge it. I coat the pattern with contrasting slip and this helps
protect the pattern. I scrape the slip off later, leaving a nice pattern
on the bottom.
You flip the cylinder over, so the newly formed bottom is now on the
wheel head, with the thick part of the cylinder up. Use clay to stick to
bottom to the wheelhead (or a Griffin Grip.) Now, pull the thick part up
to complete the top of the shape.
This method can be used on many shapes and is good especially on
tsubo/jars that you want to have a small foot print but a fat middle or
top.. Also, you can dry these faster, because the bottom drys first.
--
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JRodgers on fri 24 aug 12
A few years ago I visited Miller Pottery in Centerville, AL. just west
of Birmingham. The pottery had seen five generations of potters
beginning right after the civil war. The Miller Family graciously gave
me a tour and it was an education. The wheels were designed for
production and were shop built for stand-up throwing. They consisted
essentially of a square box about 8 inches deep, with an adjustable
board between the thrower and the wheel head. This adjustable board was
used to brace the arms and elbows against for greater control of the
clay on the wheel when centering. On the right hand side was an
extension of the construction out against which one could brace against
when throwing. The foot pedal was operated with the left foot, while the
weight of the body was essentially on the right foot. This brace
arrangement was convenient and comfortable and probably essential for
long days of throwing.
The old kiln - gas fired and quite large, had been retired and a smaller
one built. But I was told of an adventure with that kiln and "Granpa".
Apparently the gast was turned on before the pilot light was lit or it
went out - and the kiln filled with gas. Whn a flame was applied, the
kiln of course, blew up, in this case blowing out the top, blasting
bricks into the sky. Everybody rand for cover as bricks rained down.
Fortunately no one was hurt. Hearing the story, and as it was told, it
was funny.
Anyway - hip rests are apparently cool!
John
Elaine Dow on sat 25 aug 12
Inspired by John Glick=3D92s description of his stand up wheel and sufferin=
g
from sciatica the same as he, I decided to try standing up to throw. Many
folks activate the pedal with one foot or the other, but that seemed
awkward to me. Others put the pedal on a higher level and operate it with
a hand. I wanted something more flexible, something I could operate with
my knees.
My brilliant, innovative husband came up with the idea of turning the pedal
sideways and laying it on the table the wheel is on and screwing a piece of
wood to the front of it. Voila! It=3D92s very easy to change the speed ver=
y
incrementally. He also made a contraption out of plaster attached under a
piece of wood (and painted with epoxy so it all would be smooth) that hooks
onto the front of the splash pan. This allows me to rest my forearms on
something substantial while throwing.
Take a look at it all at www.stonecherubs.org
Elaine Dow
Taylor Hendrix on mon 27 aug 12
Very nice indeed, Elaine. Tell that husband of yours, I'm a fan! I may just
have to borrow that idea. I've wanted to try something different with my
speed control. Thanks for the inspiration.
Taylor, in Rockport TX
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> ...
>
> My brilliant, innovative husband came up with the idea of turning the ped=
al
> sideways and laying it on the table the wheel is on and screwing a piece =
of
> wood to the front of it.
>
gary navarre on mon 27 aug 12
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Curtis Adkins on tue 28 aug 12
Hey Everyone,
I really appreciate all the helpful hints and advice on leveling wheels and
standup throwing!
Thanks,
Curtis Adkins
On Aug 27, 2012 5:10 PM, "gary navarre"
wrote:
> For years now I have used the foot peddle as a hand peddle by placing it
> on the upper right corner of my Brent C. I found the front of my calf wou=
ld
> start spazzing and cramping while throwing and my feet were not stable. N=
ow
> I keep my feet where I want without moving while centering and stand to
> pull a taller cylinder. I use a medium speed and mostly slurry to
> lubrication. Glad I did't need a husband to figure that one out.
>
> Stay in there and don't let them fool ya eh.
>
>
>
> Gary Navarre
> Navarre Pottery
> Navarre Enterprises
> Norway, Michigan, USA
> http://www.NavarrePottery.etsy.com <...... New Pots
> http://www.youtube.com/GindaUP
> http://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Taylor Hendrix
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] throwing while standing
>
> Very nice indeed, Elaine. Tell that husband of yours, I'm a fan! I may ju=
st
> have to borrow that idea. I've wanted to try something different with my
> speed control. Thanks for the inspiration.
>
>
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
> wirerabbit1 on Skype (-0600 UTC)
> http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
> http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/
> https://youtube.com/thewirerabbit
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Elaine Dow
> wrote:
>
> > ...
> >
> > My brilliant, innovative husband came up with the idea of turning the
> pedal
> > sideways and laying it on the table the wheel is on and screwing a piec=
e
> of
> > wood to the front of it.
> >
>
Sumi von Dassow on tue 28 aug 12
Curtis
One other thing I noticed today is when centering I sometimes wrap my
right leg around the front leg of the wheel for better leverage. It
locks me into the wheel and helps me brace myself.
Sumi
> Hey Everyone,
>
> I really appreciate all the helpful hints and advice on leveling wheels a=
nd
> standup throwing!
> Thanks,
> Curtis Adkins
> On Aug 27, 2012 5:10 PM, "gary navarre"
> wrote:
>
>> For years now I have used the foot peddle as a hand peddle by placing it
>> on the upper right corner of my Brent C. I found the front of my calf wo=
uld
>> start spazzing and cramping while throwing and my feet were not stable. =
Now
>> I keep my feet where I want without moving while centering and stand to
>> pull a taller cylinder. I use a medium speed and mostly slurry to
>> lubrication. Glad I did't need a husband to figure that one out.
>>
>> Stay in there and don't let them fool ya eh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary Navarre
>> Navarre Pottery
>> Navarre Enterprises
>> Norway, Michigan, USA
>> http://www.NavarrePottery.etsy.com <...... New Pots
>> http://www.youtube.com/GindaUP
>> http://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Taylor Hendrix
>> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 9:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Clayart] throwing while standing
>>
>> Very nice indeed, Elaine. Tell that husband of yours, I'm a fan! I may j=
ust
>> have to borrow that idea. I've wanted to try something different with my
>> speed control. Thanks for the inspiration.
>>
>>
>> Taylor, in Rockport TX
>> wirerabbit1 on Skype (-0600 UTC)
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>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Elaine Dow
>> wrote:
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>>> ...
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>>> My brilliant, innovative husband came up with the idea of turning the
>> pedal
>>> sideways and laying it on the table the wheel is on and screwing a piec=
e
>> of
>>> wood to the front of it.
>>>
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