claybair on mon 27 oct 03
Karen,
An alternative might be to accentuate
the cracks and fill them with gold.
My sieve for a mind which allows details
to fall through the holes doesn't recall
if the procedure was Japanese or Chinese
in origin.
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of karen
lovenguth nunez
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:38 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: cracks and fissures in large unfunctional works and repairing
Dear Clayarters,
I have a show coming up in a local museum in a few
weeks and have a few very dear pieces that are large and not made to be
functional and I would like to repair them. A few have hairline cracks and
others cracked all over in my smoke firing. I do not want to use epoxy
because I do not want to seem as though I am hiding the crack. With one or
two I used paperclay, others I am thinking to make a patch with linen and
glue it on the inside. A friend said that she saw a film taking place in
china about a man in the old tradition who would go from house to house and
repair porcelain jars with wire. He would stitch them up making very fine
holes using a metal wirelike thread. Has anyone seen this film? Can you
remember the title?
I asked in my local hardware store for drill bits for ceramics and no one
has them, I can only find concrete bits locally. Are there special bits for
clay? I imagine they have to be very thin? Has anyone done this? Should I
use copper wire or would anyone recomend a different type?I would appreciate
any insight anyone has. I have also heard that pieces can be restored with
the cement that dentists use?
Sincerely,
Karen Lovenguth
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karen lovenguth nunez on mon 27 oct 03
Dear Clayarters,
I have a show coming up in a local museum in a =
few weeks and have a few very dear pieces that are large and not made to =
be functional and I would like to repair them. A few have hairline =
cracks and others cracked all over in my smoke firing. I do not want to =
use epoxy because I do not want to seem as though I am hiding the crack. =
With one or two I used paperclay, others I am thinking to make a patch =
with linen and glue it on the inside. A friend said that she saw a film =
taking place in china about a man in the old tradition who would go from =
house to house and repair porcelain jars with wire. He would stitch them =
up making very fine holes using a metal wirelike thread. Has anyone seen =
this film? Can you remember the title?
I asked in my local hardware store for drill bits for ceramics and no =
one has them, I can only find concrete bits locally. Are there special =
bits for clay? I imagine they have to be very thin? Has anyone done =
this? Should I use copper wire or would anyone recomend a different =
type?I would appreciate any insight anyone has. I have also heard that =
pieces can be restored with the cement that dentists use?=20
Sincerely,
Karen Lovenguth
Ingeborg Foco on tue 28 oct 03
Karen,
Home Depot has ceramic/glass drill bits. They are designed to drill a hole
into glass or ceramic and I was told by the tools department fellow that
they work quite well.
They look quite different from a regular bit ...the end is shaped similar to
an arrow tip. Depending on the diameter of the bit it will cost you
somewhere around $7 to $9. If there is no Home Depot like store near you,
perhaps you can order it via the internet.
Ingeborg
the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
P.O. Box 510
3058 Stringfellow Road
St. James City, Florida 33956
239-283-2775
Brian Guffey on tue 28 oct 03
does that work on ^10 vitreous peices? caus ei have the hardest time
drilling those peices with drill bits ment for stone and ceramics.
ifoco@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>Karen,
>
>Home Depot has ceramic/glass drill bits. They are designed to drill a hole
>into glass or ceramic and I was told by the tools department fellow that
>they work quite well.
>
>They look quite different from a regular bit ...the end is shaped similar to
>an arrow tip. Depending on the diameter of the bit it will cost you
>somewhere around $7 to $9. If there is no Home Depot like store near you,
>perhaps you can order it via the internet.
>
>
>
>
>Ingeborg
>the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
>P.O. Box 510
>3058 Stringfellow Road
>St. James City, Florida 33956
>
>239-283-2775
>
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>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
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>
>
karen lovenguth nunez on wed 29 oct 03
Thanks Ingeborg,
I believe there is a home depot in Cuernavaca
, the closet city to me, about an hours drive. Wish you the best..
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: Ingeborg Foco
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: cracks and fissures in large unfunctional works and repairing
> Karen,
>
> Home Depot has ceramic/glass drill bits. They are designed to drill a hole
> into glass or ceramic and I was told by the tools department fellow that
> they work quite well.
>
> They look quite different from a regular bit ...the end is shaped similar
to
> an arrow tip. Depending on the diameter of the bit it will cost you
> somewhere around $7 to $9. If there is no Home Depot like store near you,
> perhaps you can order it via the internet.
>
>
>
>
> Ingeborg
> the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
> P.O. Box 510
> 3058 Stringfellow Road
> St. James City, Florida 33956
>
> 239-283-2775
>
>
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>
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melpots@pclink.com.
>
Ingeborg Foco on wed 29 oct 03
Brian asked:
does that work on ^10 vitreous peices? caus ei have the hardest time
> drilling those peices with drill bits ment for stone and ceramics.
>
Brian,
I don't know personally as I haven't tried it but the tools guy led me to
believe it would drill thru vitrified clay without cracking the pot. It
looks like it could do the job and it is a bit designed for ceramic and
glass. He indicated it was much better than the masonry/ceramic bits which
he said would not do the job. Worth a try.
Ingeborg
the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
P.O. Box 510
3058 Stringfellow Road
St. James City, Florida 33956
239-283-2775
r horning on thu 30 oct 03
Although I have not tried it on ceramic work, I have drilled through 1/4" glass easily with these bits. First create a small dam of clay around the area to be drilled through. Fill it with turpentine. This keeps the bit cool. Then, with the speed of your drill very low,(you must use a variable speed drill), apply even, fairly light, pressure. Make sure that the back side is well supported so that the bit doesn't break through and chip the hole edge. Don't be in a hurry. It takes me 3-4 minutes to get through the glass, but I have never lost one.
Cheers! Rebecca
"I don't know personally as I haven't tried it but the tools guy led me
to
believe it would drill thru vitrified clay without cracking the pot.
It
looks like it could do the job and it is a bit designed for ceramic and
glass. He indicated it was much better than the masonry/ceramic bits
which
he said would not do the job. Worth a try".
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