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that cutoff string tool of mel's

updated fri 31 oct 03

 

wayneinkeywest on wed 29 oct 03


Mel, I wanted to publicly thank you for introducing me to that cutoff =
one handled string tool of yours. Works like a champ, makes throwing off =
the hump so much easier (and faster). Really took me to a whole new =
level. I'm still amazed at how well it works.

Plus, the cat likes watching it go around the clay, then "disappear" :>}

Wayne Seidl
"If momma ain't happy, ain't _nobody_ happy"

Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 29 oct 03


On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:47:53 -0500, you wrote:

>Mel, I wanted to publicly thank you for introducing me to that cutoff =
one handled string tool of yours. Works like a champ, makes throwing off =
the hump so much easier (and faster). Really took me to a whole new =
level. I'm still amazed at how well it works.
>
I have one of those japanese cut of string things, and I have never
mastered the skill of using it. I have been doing quite a bit of hump
throwing (lids & salt cellars) and would really like master an easier
and neater method of cutoff.

Besides, the thing is so darn cool to look at.

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Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 29 oct 03


I put a foot ring on stuff throw off the hump. My string thing is a
string attached to a sharp stick thing.

Any suggestions?


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John K Dellow on thu 30 oct 03


I use a piece of bamboo and the string I brought in Mashiko. Bacicall
the same as Mels .

Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:

>I put a foot ring on stuff throw off the hump. My string thing is a
>string attached to a sharp stick thing.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
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John K Dellow on thu 30 oct 03


Lee Love wrote:

>
> But if I am going to leave a cut mark, I use either twisted or
> coiled stainless wire, for a bolder mark.
>
Lee ,
when I was in Mashiko in 1981 ,I asked about the string a potters was using for their cutoff toggle and one showed me a roll of a synthetic string with a rough texture. I pick up a roll in the local hardware store and still have only use a small amount. This string make very nice
shell pattern . I am only just getting back into throwing off the hump.
I really love this type of throwing ,so relaxing. The old shimpo just
ticking over slowly. I got mine from the factory and brought it home on
the plane with me. A friend had a travel agency and gave me 100 kg of excess baggage as present. The customs officer at Sydney asked if it was my wife's and if she was immigrating to Australia ,we smiled and said yes and did not have to pay import duty :).

John


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Lee Love on thu 30 oct 03







When I am going to put a foot on the bottom of a hump thrown pot,  I
use a string.   But if I am going to leave a cut mark, I use
either twisted or coiled stainless wire, for a bolder mark.  
To make a coiled wire, wrap the wire around a bamboo skewer tightly,
remover coil from skewer and pull the ends of the wire tight.  you
get a wavy wire.  These are pretty aggressive and take a few passes
to learn to use.


 I fill the depressions with hakame slip and then scrap
(zogan.)    You can see a sample here:


http://www.livejournal.com/users/togeika/2003/10/30/


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Lee Love on fri 31 oct 03


At 19:34 2003/10/30, John Dellow wrote:

>Lee ,
> when I was in Mashiko in 1981 ,I asked about the string a potters was
> using for their cutoff toggle and one showed me a roll of a synthetic
> string with a rough texture. I pick up a roll in the local hardware store
> and still have only use a small amount. This string make very nice
>shell pattern

I think this is the same string as we used at my teacher's
workshop. Was your's yellow? I think it is carpenter's string. I
bought some dayglow pink, but it is softer than what we used at the
workshop. Maybe my pink string is cotton.

I heard at the workshop's Bonenkai (forget the year party) a
couple years ago, that the favored string for a cut off string was shamisen
strings. At Bonenkai, we were entertained by Geshia and sometimes a
Shamisen player. I really like shamisen. I think of it as "Japanese
banjo." Japanese culture can be very stiff, but you can see "soul" in
Taiko drums, the shamisen and the shakuhachi flute. Anyway, the retired
Foreman told the Shamisen player, that shamisen string was very good string
for potters to use as a cut off string. It is made of thick, straight
strands of silk, not braided. Several months later, the Geisha, who is
an old friend of my teacher's, sent the workshop a large bag of shamisen
string. I only took a couple lengths. Still have one around here
somehwhere.


>I really love this type of throwing ,so relaxing. The old shimpo just
>ticking over slowly. I got mine from the factory and brought it home on
>the plane with me. A friend had a travel agency and gave me 100 kg of
>excess baggage as present. The customs officer at Sydney asked if it was
>my wife's and if she was immigrating to Australia ,we smiled and said yes
>and did not have to pay import duty :).

I have a shimpo gold in storage back in Minneapolis. It is the
model with the cable pedal. I don't see the new non-cone drive shimpos
here in Japan. Maybe they just made them to compete with similar wheels
outside of Japan. I really like the cone drive shimpos. Don't feel
like Frankenstein using them, like you do with other electric wheels.
;^) More like driving an old tractor or truck. And you can make them go
slow.

Lee In Mashiko

John K Dellow on fri 31 oct 03


>
>> Lee ,
>> Yes its yellow . So they are still making it after 20 years :)
>
>
> I think this is the same string as we used at my teacher's
> workshop. Was your's yellow?

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