nicholas friedman on fri 7 nov 03
I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago for the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin Crowe/Dan Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to thinking. A hundred cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of radiant heat, and I was trying to figure out some productive way you couuld put all that heat to work. Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama. You could locate a hot tub between the ware chamber and the stack in such a way that it would be free standing directly over that part of the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the bottom. Can you imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting off your stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer would you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been planning on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2 years, and now feeled compelled to
realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think I've lost my mind?
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nicholas friedman on sat 8 nov 03
Hank Murrow wrote:
Dear Nicholas;
No, I do not think you've "lost your mind". Just lost a little
perspective on how draft works. Draft is created and maintained by
containing a continuous bubble of very light gases moving through the
flue. In a downdraft kiln, that bubble must be maintained until it
exits the flue. If you were to build a device to take heat from the
gases before they exit the flue, they will lose the buoyancy needed to
maintain draft. In other words, you would reduce the kiln's ability to
take in fresh air for combustion. So either build more slope into your
kiln, or take the heat from very near the exit of your flue so draft
will be maintained in the kiln/flue system. For updraft kilns this
doesn't really apply, since once the gases leave at the top, they are
not contributing anymore to draft. In that case, a heat exchanger built
into the exhaust hood might provide enough for a soak (you not the
kiln!) without altering the draft.
Cheers, Hank in Eugene
www.murrow.biz/hank
On Nov 7, 2003, at 8:30 PM, nicholas friedman wrote:
> I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago
> for the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin
> Crowe/Dan Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to
> thinking. A hundred cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of
> radiant heat, and I was trying to figure out some productive way you
> couuld put all that heat to work. Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama.
> You could locate a hot tub between the ware chamber and the stack in
> such a way that it would be free standing directly over that part of
> the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the bottom. Can you
> imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting off your
> stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer would
> you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings
> would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been
> planning on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2
> years, and now feeled compelled to
> realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think
> I've lost my mind?
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Hank,
I thank for your input, but I think you misunderstood my design. The hot tub is to be free standing directly over the kiln, free to reap the benefit of all the heat that is radiating off the top of the kiln anyway. It in no way will be taking away heat that is moving through the kiln--not disturbing draft in any way.
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nicholas friedman on sat 8 nov 03
Wayne,
The tub is to be free standing over the kiln; the kiln is not to support the weight in any way. Picture a steel frame supporting the tub directly over the kiln.
nick
wayneinkeywest wrote:
Let's see...
what's wrong with this picture...
one spa, average weight 750 pounds, plus 450 gallons
of water at 8.6 pounds per
plus four to six average Merkin adults at 200 pounds,
carry the five, subtract the weight of the bathing suits,
add in the various bottles of wine and chunks of cheese...
that comes to darn near 2300 pounds on top of a roaring fire.
You go right ahead and climb in. I'll stoke the fire, and run
like a rabbit at the first "CREACK" I hear coming from the kiln. :>)
Is water dousing a kiln considered oxidation or reduction?
Wayne Seidl
> Wayne -
> No, no, please! Don't do anything to subvert this! This is one of the
best
> ideas I have heard in years! What could be more productive than a hot tub
> heated with waste heat from a wood kiln?!
> Best wishes -
> - Vince
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wayneinkeywest on sat 8 nov 03
LOL! While you're at it, add a few peeps on top that you can open and roast
hotdogs while you're in there All I can imagine is four people being
cooked when the jacuzzigama gets up to ^11 or so, and starts boiling the
water. Great for cannibals and lobsters though :>)
If you want to do something productive with the heat, you can place layers
of copper pipe on top, insulate them with a layer or two of Kaowool, run
water through them and use them to heat the studio via radiators. Great for
drying ware.
Wayne Seidl
> I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago for
the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin Crowe/Dan
Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to thinking. A hundred
cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of radiant heat, and I was trying
to figure out some productive way you couuld put all that heat to work.
Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama. You could locate a hot tub between the
ware chamber and the stack in such a way that it would be free standing
directly over that part of the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the
bottom. Can you imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting
off your stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer
would you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings
would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been planning
on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2 years, and now
feeled compelled to
> realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think I've
lost my mind?
>
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Libby Krause on sat 8 nov 03
I just want to know when the first firing is and how far you are from
waaaay south Texas!
Libby Krause
On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 10:30 PM, nicholas friedman wrote:
> I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago
> for the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin
> Crowe/Dan Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to
> thinking. A hundred cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of
> radiant heat, and I was trying to figure out some productive way you
> couuld put all that heat to work. Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama.
> You could locate a hot tub between the ware chamber and the stack in
> such a way that it would be free standing directly over that part of
> the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the bottom. Can you
> imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting off your
> stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer would
> you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings
> would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been
> planning on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2
> years, and now feeled compelle!
> d to
> realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think
> I've lost my mind?
>
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nicholas friedman on sat 8 nov 03
Wayne,
the hot dog idea is, of course, the classic remedy for wasted heat. We are a little advanced at the duckpondpotter and instead favor adobe bread ovens constructed on top of the arch. As far as turning your help into lobsters, water temperature is easily regulated by adding cold water to the brew.
Nick in Brevard, North Carolina
wayneinkeywest wrote:
LOL! While you're at it, add a few peeps on top that you can open and roast
hotdogs while you're in there All I can imagine is four people being
cooked when the jacuzzigama gets up to ^11 or so, and starts boiling the
water. Great for cannibals and lobsters though :>)
If you want to do something productive with the heat, you can place layers
of copper pipe on top, insulate them with a layer or two of Kaowool, run
water through them and use them to heat the studio via radiators. Great for
drying ware.
Wayne Seidl
> I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago for
the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin Crowe/Dan
Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to thinking. A hundred
cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of radiant heat, and I was trying
to figure out some productive way you couuld put all that heat to work.
Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama. You could locate a hot tub between the
ware chamber and the stack in such a way that it would be free standing
directly over that part of the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the
bottom. Can you imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting
off your stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer
would you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings
would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been planning
on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2 years, and now
feeled compelled to
> realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think I've
lost my mind?
>
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jeff on sat 8 nov 03
Sounds like a giant cannibalistic recipe for " friend soup" just add a few
hundred pounds of vegetables boil until tender.
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of nicholas
friedman
Subject: building a jacuzzigama kiln
Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama. You could locate a hot tub between the
ware chamber and the stack in such a way that it would be free standing
directly over that part of the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the
bottom. Can you imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting
off your stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer
would you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings
would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties
nicholas friedman on sat 8 nov 03
Libby,
we have the Duckpond Pottery in Brevard, North Carolina--That's about 30 miles south of Asheville in the Blue Ridge mountains. Our Kiln yard is on a bluff overlooking the French Broad River. The kiln, however, is just a gleam in our eyes. We'll call you in a year of so for the first "soak."
Libby Krause wrote:
I just want to know when the first firing is and how far you are from
waaaay south Texas!
Libby Krause
On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 10:30 PM, nicholas friedman wrote:
> I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago
> for the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin
> Crowe/Dan Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to
> thinking. A hundred cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of
> radiant heat, and I was trying to figure out some productive way you
> couuld put all that heat to work. Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama.
> You could locate a hot tub between the ware chamber and the stack in
> such a way that it would be free standing directly over that part of
> the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the bottom. Can you
> imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting off your
> stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer would
> you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings
> would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been
> planning on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2
> years, and now feeled compelle!
> d to
> realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think
> I've lost my mind?
>
>
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Coiled copper tubing can be placed so that the water thermo-siphons,=20
thus eliminating any need for any pumps!!
John Rodgers
Chelsae, AL
nicholas friedman wrote:
>I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago f=
or the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin Crow=
e/Dan Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to thinking. =
A hundred cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of radiant heat, and I=
was trying to figure out some productive way you couuld put all that hea=
t to work. Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama. You could locate a hot t=
ub between the ware chamber and the stack in such a way that it would be =
free standing directly over that part of the kiln so that the tub would b=
e heated from the bottom. Can you imagine how wonderful this would be? =
Just imagine getting off your stoke shift to join all your friends up in =
the tub. No longer would you have any difficulty finding help to fire yo=
ur kiln as firings would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. =
I have been planning on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within =
the next 2 years, and now feeled compelled to
> realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think I've=
lost my mind?
>
>
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Earl Brunner on sat 8 nov 03
Are you serious about this? I think I would put the Jacuzzi off to the
side, send some pipes over and maybe wrap them around the stack for a
bit and then cycle the Jacuzzi water through the pipes until it gets to
the right temp, you could control temperature better this way.
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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:31 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: building a jacuzzigama kiln
I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago
for the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin
Crowe/Dan Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to
thinking. A hundred cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of radiant
heat, and I was trying to figure out some productive way you couuld put
all that heat to work. Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama. You could
locate a hot tub between the ware chamber and the stack in such a way
that it would be free standing directly over that part of the kiln so
that the tub would be heated from the bottom. Can you imagine how
wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting off your stoke shift to
join all your friends up in the tub. No longer would you have any
difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings would have the
extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been planning on building
a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2 years, and now feeled
compelled to
realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think I've
lost my mind?
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Hank Murrow on sat 8 nov 03
Dear Nicholas;
No, I do not think you've "lost your mind". Just lost a little
perspective on how draft works. Draft is created and maintained by
containing a continuous bubble of very light gases moving through the
flue. In a downdraft kiln, that bubble must be maintained until it
exits the flue. If you were to build a device to take heat from the
gases before they exit the flue, they will lose the buoyancy needed to
maintain draft. In other words, you would reduce the kiln's ability to
take in fresh air for combustion. So either build more slope into your
kiln, or take the heat from very near the exit of your flue so draft
will be maintained in the kiln/flue system. For updraft kilns this
doesn't really apply, since once the gases leave at the top, they are
not contributing anymore to draft. In that case, a heat exchanger built
into the exhaust hood might provide enough for a soak (you not the
kiln!) without altering the draft.
Cheers, Hank in Eugene
www.murrow.biz/hank
On Nov 7, 2003, at 8:30 PM, nicholas friedman wrote:
> I got a great idea for a new kiln. I was up at Penland a few days ago
> for the firing of the new modified naborigama kiln built in the Kevin
> Crowe/Dan Finigan workshop (fall concentration 2003) and I got to
> thinking. A hundred cubic foot kiln puts off a heck of a lot of
> radiant heat, and I was trying to figure out some productive way you
> couuld put all that heat to work. Then it came to me: a jacuzzigama.
> You could locate a hot tub between the ware chamber and the stack in
> such a way that it would be free standing directly over that part of
> the kiln so that the tub would be heated from the bottom. Can you
> imagine how wonderful this would be? Just imagine getting off your
> stoke shift to join all your friends up in the tub. No longer would
> you have any difficulty finding help to fire your kiln as firings
> would have the extra allure of being hot tub parties. I have been
> planning on building a new kiln at our shop sometime within the next 2
> years, and now feeled compelled to
> realize my vision of a "jacuzzigama." Does anybody out ther think
> I've lost my mind?
Paul Gerhold on sat 8 nov 03
Great idea! And if you over fire what the heck, at least you will have a
good old fashioned boiled dinner to compensate for the lost pots.
Paul
Vince Pitelka on sat 8 nov 03
> LOL! While you're at it, add a few peeps on top that you can open and
roast
> hotdogs while you're in there All I can imagine is four people being
> cooked when the jacuzzigama gets up to ^11 or so, and starts boiling the
> water. Great for cannibals and lobsters though :>)
Reminds me of a joke on the PHC joke show a few years ago. Two missionaries
were captured by cannibals and were simmering in a big cast iron cauldron
over a fire. Things didn't look good. Suddenly one missionary broke out in
giggles. The other missionary said "Our situation is mighty grim, brother,
what are you giggling about?" The first missionary responded "I just peed
in their soup."
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
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Vince Pitelka on sat 8 nov 03
> If you want to do something productive with the heat, you can place layers
> of copper pipe on top, insulate them with a layer or two of Kaowool, run
> water through them and use them to heat the studio via radiators. Great
for
> drying ware.
Wayne -
No, no, please! Don't do anything to subvert this! This is one of the best
ideas I have heard in years! What could be more productive than a hot tub
heated with waste heat from a wood kiln?!
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
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wayneinkeywest on sat 8 nov 03
Let's see...
what's wrong with this picture...
one spa, average weight 750 pounds, plus 450 gallons
of water at 8.6 pounds per
plus four to six average Merkin adults at 200 pounds,
carry the five, subtract the weight of the bathing suits,
add in the various bottles of wine and chunks of cheese...
that comes to darn near 2300 pounds on top of a roaring fire.
You go right ahead and climb in. I'll stoke the fire, and run
like a rabbit at the first "CREACK" I hear coming from the kiln. :>)
Is water dousing a kiln considered oxidation or reduction?
Wayne Seidl
> Wayne -
> No, no, please! Don't do anything to subvert this! This is one of the
best
> ideas I have heard in years! What could be more productive than a hot tub
> heated with waste heat from a wood kiln?!
> Best wishes -
> - Vince
Millie Carpenter on sat 8 nov 03
In N.C this used to be called a still. so I guess that we can have
drinks while we are soaking in the Jacuzi waiting for the bread to cook
in the adobe stove
Millie in Md. did anyone else see the lunar eclipse tonight? these
always fascinate me, once when I was 10 or so, my next door neighbor
got all us kids together with sleeping bags to keep us warm and we sat
up until midnight watching a total lunar eclipse.
On Saturday, November 8, 2003, at 11:53 AM, John Rodgers wrote:
> Coiled copper tubing can be placed so that the water thermo-siphons,
> thus eliminating any need for any pumps!!
>
> John Rodgers
> Chelsae, AL
steve harrison on sun 9 nov 03
> What could be more productive than a hot tub
> heated with waste heat from a wood kiln?
> - Vince
>
> How about a pizza oven?
Best wishes
Steve Harrison
Hot & Sticky Pty Ltd
5 Railway Pde
Balmoral Village
NSW 2571
Australia
http://ian.currie.to/sh/Steve_Harrisons_books.html
Lori Leary on sun 9 nov 03
Wayne wrote:
one spa, average weight 750 pounds, plus 450 gallons
of water at 8.6 pounds per
plus four to six average Merkin adults at 200 pounds,
carry the five, subtract the weight of the bathing suits,
add in the various bottles of wine and chunks of cheese...
that comes to darn near 2300 pounds on top of a roaring fire.
You go right ahead and climb in. I'll stoke the fire, and run
like a rabbit at the first "CREACK" I hear coming from the kiln. :>)
-----------------------
I guess you would end up with an AQUAgama!!!
Lori L.
...punchy after getting home from my "night" job in the NICU
P.S.
Check out this website for the real thing:
http://hem.passagen.se/ceramco/aquagama.htm
Maid O'Mud on sun 9 nov 03
Reduction.
Sam - Maid O'Mud Pottery
Melbourne, Ontario CANADA
"First, the clay told me what to do.
Then, I told the clay what to do.
Now, we co-operate."
sam 1994
http://www.ody.ca/~scuttell/
----- Original Message -----
From: "wayneinkeywest"
> Let's see...
> what's wrong with this picture...
> one spa, average weight 750 pounds, plus 450 gallons
> of water at 8.6 pounds per
> plus four to six average Merkin adults at 200 pounds,
> carry the five, subtract the weight of the bathing suits,
> add in the various bottles of wine and chunks of cheese...
> that comes to darn near 2300 pounds on top of a roaring fire.
> You go right ahead and climb in. I'll stoke the fire, and run
> like a rabbit at the first "CREACK" I hear coming from the kiln. :>)
> Is water dousing a kiln considered oxidation or reduction?
> Wayne Seidl
>
Vince Pitelka on sun 9 nov 03
> > What could be more productive than a hot tub
> > heated with waste heat from a wood kiln?
> > - Vince
> >
> How about a pizza oven?
> Steve Harrison
Hey! How about both!
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Hendrix, Taylor J. on sun 9 nov 03
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!
We got us an outdoor steam bath, boys.
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Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:36 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: building a jacuzzigama kiln
Let's see...
what's wrong with this picture...
...I'll stoke the fire, and run
like a rabbit at the first "CREACK" I hear coming from the kiln. :>)
Is water dousing a kiln considered oxidation or reduction?
...
Hendrix, Taylor J. on sun 9 nov 03
How about some Jiffy Pop (popcorn) over the flue hole of
a raku kiln. A bit of a learning curve, but it worked for=20
us! Don't get wet, get food!
Steve's pizza idea sounds good too. Right there on top and
everything. Hey, no anchovies!
Taylor, in Waco
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From: Vince Pitelka [mailto:vpitelka@DTCCOM.NET]=20
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 6:11 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: building a jacuzzigama kiln
...
What could be more productive than a hot tub
heated with waste heat from a wood kiln?!
...
terry sullivan on sun 9 nov 03
Too bad we don't have Paul Soldner on this list. I'm sure he would have
some interesting and inovative ideas on how to heat the spa using kiln
heat.
Terry Sullivan
Nottingham Arts
San Marcos, CA
Marta Matray Gloviczki on sun 9 nov 03
excuse me, taylor!!!
what about us, girls?
huh?
marta
Hendrix, Taylor J. wrote:
>YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!
>
>We got us an outdoor steam bath, boys.
>
iandol on mon 10 nov 03
Dear Friends,
I'm sure there must be a Roman precedent for this sort of thing. should =
be design somewhere from about 350 BPE.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
Lee Love on mon 10 nov 03
----- Original Message -----
> How about a pizza oven?
> Steve Harrison
I have one of these in my back yard. Need to buy some more slow
burning wood to use in it.
--
Lee In Mashiko, Japan
http://Mashiko.org
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Janet Kaiser on wed 12 nov 03
Sam and all... I was about to say "oxidation"... All the O from
the H2O drizzling in... However, add the bodies (carbon) and you
are back to reduction... So what do the experts say?
Bottoms up!
Lola Mugglewort
12 Straight down the crooked lane
All around the square
Bridge-over-troubled-Water
Wales
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>Reduction.
>Sam - Maid O'Mud Pottery
>Melbourne, Ontario CANADA
>> Is water dousing a kiln considered oxidation or reduction?
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Snail Scott on wed 12 nov 03
At 03:05 AM 11/12/03 +0000, you wrote:
>Sam and all... I was about to say "oxidation"... All the O from
>the H2O drizzling in...
Nah; humidity and water always seem to
induce reduction, even without bodies. ;)
-Snail
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