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handles for dry mugs

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Ann Brink on sun 9 nov 03


Do you feel like experimenting? Here's something I have been meaning to
try- just haven't yet.

You might carefully drill approx. 1/4" holes where the attach points of the
handle would be. Then pull your handles, but arrange them into almost
circular shapes, or sideways U shapes, I should say. When partially
stiffened, pinch the ends of the handle between your fingers to make them a
size which will fit through the holes. Cut off smooth, and sort of push
until you have almost a flat rivet shape inside. Make sure there is enough
slack in the part that goes through the cup body, to allow for shrinkage.
After the handle is dry, tidy up the joins until they are smooth.
Shouldn't go anywhere during the bisque firing, and for sure the glaze
firing will give strength to the whole thing.

Big disclaimer here: I don't know how the finished joint will look- but it
might be worth a try on a few of the cups. As for the rest, leave them
without handles- they will sell anyway.

Good firings!
Ann Brink in Lompoc California


Lajos wrote: "I made a bunch of mugs the other night and wanted to
make handles the next morning, but something came
up and I ended up with all these dry mugs that don't
have handles.

Is there any way I could still attach handles?
Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?"

Lajos Kamocsay on sun 9 nov 03


Hello,

I made a bunch of mugs the other night and wanted to
make handles the next morning, but something came
up and I ended up with all these dry mugs that don't
have handles.

Is there any way I could still attach handles?
Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?

Thanks,
Lajos

wayneinkeywest on sun 9 nov 03


If you take a spray bottle with some clean water in it, and spray to dampen
the area where the handles will attach, you can score and slip to attach the
handles. It may take a while for the clay to get moist enough. Don't get
it too wet at once. Patience pays.
Wayne Seidl

Hello,

I made a bunch of mugs the other night and wanted to
make handles the next morning, but something came
up and I ended up with all these dry mugs that don't
have handles.

Is there any way I could still attach handles?
Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?

Thanks,
Lajos

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Lois Ruben Aronow on sun 9 nov 03


I would say no, you now have tumblers. It's nearly impossible to get
handles to stick *well* to dry bodies; well meaning without cracking
or detachment. =20

I'm sure other people have ideas on how to do it, and it may also
depend on what kind of clay you are using. But I know that with my
porcelain, it would never work. =20

And I bet it would take less time to throw new mug bodies than to
wet, re-wet, re-wet, and so on, in order to make the handles stick to
the dry bodies.



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Gary Ferguson on sun 9 nov 03


Lajos:

Depending on how dry they are you can place a wet towel or drape wet paper
towels around the piece, then cover with plastic and let it set for a while
(20-30 minutes) and the clay should become "workable" again.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lajos Kamocsay"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: handles for dry mugs


Hello,

I made a bunch of mugs the other night and wanted to
make handles the next morning, but something came
up and I ended up with all these dry mugs that don't
have handles.

Is there any way I could still attach handles?
Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?

Thanks,
Lajos

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Lajos Kamocsay on mon 10 nov 03


The mugs at this point are completely dry.
I think I'll just throw new ones.

Thanks,
Lajos


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lajos Kamocsay"
>
>
>>I'll try to rehydrate one, but it sounds like
>>it will take more time and effort to fix these
>>than to throw new ones.
>
>
> Really depends. The mugs I just finished, took 2 minutes to wet a
> towel and then place it on the mugs.
>
> How dry are your mugs exactly?
>
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Earl Krueger on mon 10 nov 03


On Nov 10, 2003, Snail Scott wrote:

> Call them pencil holders, toothbrush holders,
> kitchen-thingy holders, or even...cups! (And
> why not charge extra - they're not just mugs
> anymore!) ;)

Ahhh, the difference between selling and marketing !!!

Earl...
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Hollis Engley on mon 10 nov 03


----- Original Message -----
From: Lois Ruben Aronow
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: handles for dry mugs


> I would say no, you now have tumblers. It's nearly impossible to get
> handles to stick *well* to dry bodies; well meaning without cracking
> or detachment.
> And I bet it would take less time to throw new mug bodies than to
> wet, re-wet, re-wet, and so on, in order to make the handles stick to
> the dry bodies.

Lajos: I'm with Lois on this one. Chalk it up to a lesson well-learned, then
go make some more mugs. You'll spend more time trying to fix the original
mistake than making new mugs. How many mugs was it, anyway?
Hollis Engley
Hatchville Pottery
Falmouth, Mass.
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Snail Scott on mon 10 nov 03


At 01:10 PM 11/9/03 -0800, you wrote:
>Is there any way I could still attach handles?
>Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?


Call them pencil holders, toothbrush holders,
kitchen-thingy holders, or even...cups! (And
why not charge extra - they're not just mugs
anymore!) ;)
-Snail

Rick on mon 10 nov 03


Are they bone dry or do they still have some moisture in them. Either
way, you could try immersing them in water for a few seconds -- do this
a couple of times after they have absorbed all the water from each
immersion. Then cover them with pretty damp towels and cover this with
plastic sheets so no air can get in. Leave them sit a few days and see
how they re-hydrate. It's a shame you didn't do this right away when
you realized you wouldn't be able to get to them for a while. Or had
stuck them into a Styrofoam box or something. Still handless mugs
might be a novelty that would sell well. Another idea would be to cut
holes in the bottoms and sell them as flower pots. And as a last
resort, recycle them. Good luck.

Rick


On 2003.Nov.10, at 06:10 AM, Lajos Kamocsay wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I made a bunch of mugs the other night and wanted to
> make handles the next morning, but something came
> up and I ended up with all these dry mugs that don't
> have handles.
>
> Is there any way I could still attach handles?
> Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?
>
> Thanks,
> Lajos
>
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Lee Love on mon 10 nov 03


----- Original Message -----
Lajos wrote:

> Is there any way I could still attach handles?
> Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?

Depending on the clay, you can try to re-hydrate the bodies by draping a
wet towel over them (soak it, but wring it out) and then covering everything
with plastic.

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Lajos Kamocsay on mon 10 nov 03


Thanks for all the suggestions!
I'll try to rehydrate one, but it sounds like
it will take more time and effort to fix these
than to throw new ones.

Thanks,
Lajos

> Hello,
>
> I made a bunch of mugs the other night and wanted to
> make handles the next morning, but something came
> up and I ended up with all these dry mugs that don't
> have handles.
>
> Is there any way I could still attach handles?
> Or should I just leave them handle-less mugs?
>
> Thanks,
> Lajos
>
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Robert Huskey on mon 10 nov 03


I'll put the old ditto on the idea to forget the handles . Maybe it can be
done, but what will they look like ? And yes, the time spent.

Besides, pencil pots sell too. Bob Huskey -- Tallahassee , Fl.




> I would say no, you now have tumblers. It's nearly impossible to get
> > handles to stick *well* to dry bodies; well meaning without cracking
> > or detachment.
> > And I bet it would take less time to throw new mug bodies than to
> > wet, re-wet, re-wet, and so on, in order to make the handles stick to
> > the dry bodies.
>
> Lajos: I'm with Lois on this one. Chalk it up to a lesson well-learned,
then
> go make some more mugs. You'll spend more time trying to fix the original
> mistake than making new mugs. How many mugs was it, anyway?
> Hollis Engley
.

Steve Gady on tue 11 nov 03


Why don't you dunk the cups in water(3 seconds or so), let them set for =
a little while (30-45 minutes) and then dunk them again if they are =
still too dry. In the meantime make your handles and then attach them. =
I sometimes wax the handles and the joints to slow the drying if the =
handles and the mug do not have a similar moisture content. Once I =
attach the handles, I spritz the cups inside and out and then place them =
on a bat in my damp closet (old fridge). In order to try and slow down =
the drying, I take a small piece of clay, form it into a slender blob =
and place the cup upside down over the hunk of clay. The cups tend to =
dry at a slower rate because of the additional clay. I would be afraid =
of drilling the holes as others have suggested. If you leave a air =
pocket, the piece may explode. =20

Good Luck. Steve in Tampa, Fl.

Lee Love on tue 11 nov 03


----- Original Message -----
From: "Snail Scott"

> Call them pencil holders, toothbrush holders,
> kitchen-thingy holders, or even...cups! (And
> why not charge extra - they're not just mugs
> anymore!) ;)


If you respect your work, don't do "make do" work. If these
started out as mugs, they can only be half-baked pencil holders or cups.

We don't know how dry the mug bodies got. I'm assuming they were
what I would consider "too dry" for handles. If you put soft handles on
bodies that are "a little too dry", they will crack where they join.

If they really are too dry to rehydrate, I would just recycle them or
use them for glaze tests.

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Lee Love on tue 11 nov 03


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lajos Kamocsay"


>I'll try to rehydrate one, but it sounds like
>it will take more time and effort to fix these
>than to throw new ones.


Really depends. The mugs I just finished, took 2 minutes to wet a towel
and then place it on the mugs.

How dry are your mugs exactly?

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