Christy Pines on tue 11 nov 03
Thank you for this explanation. I took a colored-clay pot out of the glaze kiln the other day. I had put a regular clear glaze on it, just to see. This is my experiment piece, before I go hog-wild with the stuff I made in Vince's workshop. The glaze definitely interfers with the color. Too shiny. But I didn't want to go with no glaze at all. It seemed as though I wouldn't get the clarity of color I was looking for (and I might be all wrong there, but I was afraid to try). Is there a "fat" glaze that comes up clear, for cone 6 oxidation?
christy in connecticut
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From: Janet Kaiser
Sent: Nov 10, 2003 8:23 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: What is a fat glaze? (was General for Glaze tests)
In addition to what Snail and RR have said, I would say that a
"fat" glaze is usually not only opaque and thick, but also "waxy"
in appearance. It has both the look and the feel of softness and
warmth, although fat glazes are usually in the high-fired range
and far from physically soft or weak. Look at a high quality wax
candle and that is the type of effect a "fat glaze" produces...
It is incidentally one of the qualities which I have never seen
in low-fired work (which naturally does not mean that it is not
possible, just I have never witnessed one).
I love fat glazes because they are a couple of steps away from
very shiny "glassy" glazes, without being in the least bit matt.
When I think about it, this is probably because I see a smooth,
fat glaze being an entity in its own right and not a sort of
secondary layer of "pure glass" added to a clay "ground". I find
it hard to explain, but this fatty quality puts a glaze onto
quite a different aesthetic category which I probably find the
most appealing of all... Not "better" or "worse" than others,
just my personal preference...
Janet Kaiser on tue 11 nov 03
In addition to what Snail and RR have said, I would say that a
"fat" glaze is usually not only opaque and thick, but also "waxy"
in appearance. It has both the look and the feel of softness and
warmth, although fat glazes are usually in the high-fired range
and far from physically soft or weak. Look at a high quality wax
candle and that is the type of effect a "fat glaze" produces...
It is incidentally one of the qualities which I have never seen
in low-fired work (which naturally does not mean that it is not
possible, just I have never witnessed one).
I love fat glazes because they are a couple of steps away from
very shiny "glassy" glazes, without being in the least bit matt.
When I think about it, this is probably because I see a smooth,
fat glaze being an entity in its own right and not a sort of
secondary layer of "pure glass" added to a clay "ground". I find
it hard to explain, but this fatty quality puts a glaze onto
quite a different aesthetic category which I probably find the
most appealing of all... Not "better" or "worse" than others,
just my personal preference...
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser -- Feeling virtuous after sorting out an overflowing
Medicine Cabinet. We do not need to house such things as a bottle
of aspirin bought at the PX in Berlin (expiry date 1988) or
bandages cut during or soon after WWII!!!
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>Alisa wrote:...It shows a very nice white base that is fat...
>
>Earl K wrote:
>>>I've seen in various sources people refer to a glaze as "fat".
I'm not
>sure what they mean by that...
>
>Barbara R wrote:
>They mean "phat" slang for awesome, good... It isn't spelled the
same
>way as fat from an animal.
>
>Actually, 'fat', in the sense of a glaze,
>generally refers to a sense of translucency
>and viscosity, a 'gooey' look to the fired
>glaze which is rather reminiscent of ham fat.
>It is a term often used to describe semi-
>opaque white or off-white base glazes, but
>can also refer to colored glazes as well.
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Janet Kaiser on wed 12 nov 03
Hi Christy!
Not to my knowledge. The reason being that "fat" is opaque by its
very definition. That means it will not be translucent and clear,
but "milky". It is rather like the difference between
water-colour and poster paint. The former will allow the ground
to show through and the other will not.
If someone developed a clear, non-glossy yet non-matt glaze they
would be a hero/heroine for many potters around the world...
Those like Cat Jarosz who would really, really like and totally
prefer their work to retain the look and feel of raw, unfired
clay.
Sorry!
Sincerely
Janet Kaiser --
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*** From: Christy Pines
*** E-address: cpines@IX.NETCOM.COM
*** Sent: 11/11/2003 Time: 08:25
>Thank you for this explanation. I took a colored-clay pot out of
the
>glaze kiln the other day. I had put a regular clear glaze on it,
just to
>see. This is my experiment piece, before I go hog-wild with the
stuff I
>made in Vince's workshop. The glaze definitely interfers with
the color.
>Too shiny. But I didn't want to go with no glaze at all. It
seemed as
>though I wouldn't get the clarity of color I was looking for
(and I might
>be all wrong there, but I was afraid to try). Is there a "fat"
glaze that
>comes up clear, for cone 6 oxidation?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Janet Kaiser
>Subject: What is a fat glaze? (was General for Glaze tests)
>
>In addition to what Snail and RR have said, I would say that a
>"fat" glaze is usually not only opaque and thick, but also
"waxy"
>in appearance. It has both the look and the feel of softness and
>warmth, although fat glazes are usually in the high-fired range
>and far from physically soft or weak. Look at a high quality wax
>candle and that is the type of effect a "fat glaze" produces...
>It is incidentally one of the qualities which I have never seen
>in low-fired work (which naturally does not mean that it is not
>possible, just I have never witnessed one).
>
>I love fat glazes because they are a couple of steps away from
>very shiny "glassy" glazes, without being in the least bit matt.
>When I think about it, this is probably because I see a smooth,
>fat glaze being an entity in its own right and not a sort of
>secondary layer of "pure glass" added to a clay "ground". I find
>it hard to explain, but this fatty quality puts a glaze onto
>quite a different aesthetic category which I probably find the
>most appealing of all... Not "better" or "worse" than others,
>just my personal preference...
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