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adhesive for fiber and brick

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Bill Bryant on sun 16 nov 03


A friend of mine needs to rebuild the door to an old West Coast =
kiln. He wants to use a combination of brick and fiber. Is there an =
adhesive that would withstand the heat (cone 5) and hold everything =
together?

Thanks,
Bill Bryant in sunny Southern California. =20
I'm still wearing shorts but the tank tops are gone for the winter. =
Bummer dude.

Logan Oplinger on mon 17 nov 03


On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:16:06 -0800, Bill Bryant wrote:

> A friend of mine needs to rebuild the door to an old West Coast kiln.
He wants to use a combination of brick and fiber. Is there an adhesive
that would withstand the heat (cone 5) and hold everything together?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Bryant in sunny Southern California.


Dear Bill,

I am not familiar with the construction of the West Coast Kilns, and you do
not say to which model the door will be rebuilt. That said, some specific
information before hand from you will help us recommend one or more
possible solutions.

There are several commercial refractory adhesives available. You or your
friend should go to one of the online ceramic/pottery suppliers to find one
suitable for brick, and one suitable for the fiber.

I am assuming insulating fire brick. What is your friend's proposed method
of assembly for the firebrick and fiber?

A different adhesive/cement will be necessary to hold the brick together
than the adhesive used to hold together layers of fiber or attach the fiber
to the brick.

Is the firebrick to be used within the entire door as primary or secondary
insulation? Will it be the foundation to which the fiber will be attached?

Is the fiber to be primary/secondary insulation, or is the fiber to be used
only to make a tight seal around the door, as a gasket?

What method will be used to secure the firebrick and/or fiber to the door?
Will it be the same or different than that used by the manufacturer?

Respectfully,

Logan Oplinger
Another Pacific Island

Cat Jarosz on mon 17 nov 03


I put a fiber gasket on my kiln door and used high temp wire and home made
porcelain buttons to hold in place. Had to drill tiny holes thru the brick
where the buttons would be attached, it works like a charm.

Cat Jarosz in Leicester, NC the unpronounceable town 10 min from downtown
Asheville.
ps discovered yesterday the huge bang crash boom noise from last weeks high
winds was a pine tree that came down and coulda and shoulda taken out my
whole kiln shed roof and kiln too ended up with only minor damage .. ya should
see the debris behind the shed !!! Amazing it wasnt worse.. God really must
look out for fools , drunks and potters too...

Craig Dunn Clark on mon 17 nov 03


Sodium silicate and sarset solution has worked well for me. Make it a paste,
kinda like cake frosting.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1.2 st
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bryant"
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Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:16 PM
Subject: Adhesive for fiber and brick


A friend of mine needs to rebuild the door to an old West Coast kiln.
He wants to use a combination of brick and fiber. Is there an adhesive that
would withstand the heat (cone 5) and hold everything together?

Thanks,
Bill Bryant in sunny Southern California.
I'm still wearing shorts but the tank tops are gone for the winter. Bummer
dude.

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Graeme Anderson on mon 17 nov 03


I've found a paste of sodium silicate and talc works for me, up to C 10 at
least. Also handy in repairs to shelf posts, where there is no great
sideways strain. It may help to thin the silicate with a bit of water
before adding the talc.
Cheers. Graeme.
From a sunny Lightning Ridge, where it may be an early summer unless the
drought breaks. It's topped the old 100 F the last couple of days.