Michele D'Amico on thu 4 dec 03
I mixed up some dry Moroccan sand cone 5 glazes. They won't stay in
suspension and when I mix them they froth up like a milkshake which makes
them difficult to apply. Has anyone else had problems like this and if so,
how did you solve them?
Michele D'Amico
damicom@cruzio.com
Shawn McGuire on thu 4 dec 03
You should try adding a small persentage of bentonite to hold the glaze in
suspention, for some reason Laguna does not put a suspention agent in their dry
glazes, my guess is that it's a way for them save a buck...lol
Jon Pacini on fri 5 dec 03
Greetings All---- Shawn, Shawn, Shawn how cynical can you get --- leaving
the bentonite out to save a buck. Really??? The reason Laguna Dry Glazes
have no suspension agents added to them is because it takes different types
and amounts of suspending agents depending on if you're spraying, dipping or
brushing. Give us a little credit please :)
Best regards
Jon Pacini
Clay Manager
Laguna Clay Co
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:57:06 EST
From: Shawn McGuire
Subject:
You should try adding a small persentage of bentonite to hold the glaze in
suspention, for some reason Laguna does not put a suspention agent in their
dry
glazes, my guess is that it's a way for them save a buck...lol
Diane Palmquist on wed 10 dec 03
Hi Jon,
I have been involved in clay for 25 years and never had this experience
before. I am involved in a very large co-op/school that mixes all their own
glazes. As long as I have been there(16 years) this has never happened. I
ordered premixed dry glazes in my small studio to save space and time as I
didn't want to have to make room for all the chemicals etc. This is
certainly not what I had in mind. I am surprised you are taking no
responsibility for this problem! I guess the very best solution is to make
room and mix all my own glazes!
Diane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Pacini"
To: "Diane Palmquist"
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Laguna Glaze
> Hi Diane----Micheal Wendt had as good an explanation for the problem and
> solution as I have heard. Some of the minerals we use are processed in
> curious ways and sometimes residual materials from those processes do
indeed
> end up in the mix. Not much you can do about it, it comes with the
> territory. I am concerned though about why it is a problem that doesn't
seem
> to turn up much in our own production, yet surfaces in the studio------
>
> best regards
> Jon Pacini
> Clay Manager
> Laguna Clay Co
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diane Palmquist [mailto:dlpots@snet.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:58 AM
> To: Jon Pacini
> Subject: Re: Re: Laguna Glaze
>
>
> Hi Jon,
> What about the problem with the foam in the glazes? I have experienced
> similar problems. Why is this happening and what is the solution? Every
time
> it is stirred it gets a layer of "soap" bubbles.
> Thanks- Diane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Pacini"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Laguna Glaze
>
>
> > Greetings All---- Shawn, Shawn, Shawn how cynical can you get ---
leaving
> > the bentonite out to save a buck. Really??? The reason Laguna Dry
Glazes
> > have no suspension agents added to them is because it takes different
> types
> > and amounts of suspending agents depending on if you're spraying,
dipping
> or
> > brushing. Give us a little credit please :)
> >
> > Best regards
> > Jon Pacini
> > Clay Manager
> > Laguna Clay Co
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:57:06 EST
> > From: Shawn McGuire
> > Subject:
> >
> > You should try adding a small persentage of bentonite to hold the glaze
> in
> > suspention, for some reason Laguna does not put a suspention agent in
> their
> > dry
> > glazes, my guess is that it's a way for them save a buck...lol
> >
> >
>
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Michele D'Amico on thu 11 dec 03
Jon,
I think it's terrible to have the attitude that getting a bad batch of
glaze 'comes with the territory'. Pre-mixed glazes are expensive and then
finding them impossible to use is wasteful in terms of time and money.
When you sell a product you've manufactured you are implying a level of
quality and responsibility. When I buy a mixed glaze I assume there has
been some quality control. When I first mixed the glaze I saw the
problem, contacted Laguna, got no reply, tested the glaze, sieved it 3
times, added epsom salts, added water, contacted Laguna again, got no
reply, sieved 3 more times, tested again. I contacted Laguna a third time
and BEGGED for a reply. By the time someone responded I was,
frankly, 'done' with trying to use the glaze.
How many other people are out there who are not on clayart who are also
having this problem? I really think Laguna needs to re-examine some of
the ways they are doing things.
Michele D'Amico
damicom@cruzio.com
Anne Melvin on fri 12 dec 03
Hi,
I thought perhaps I was the only one who didn't know how to communicate
with the gurus at Laguna. A year ago I had a question about their Cone 6
crystalline glaze. I left three voicemail and three email all of which
must have gone to a black hole as I never received a response. As a
result, I deal with the other wonderful ceramic suppliers who do answer my
questions. Life is much better that way.
Anne in Avon, CT, who is a little closer in her quest to find the perfect
pot and the skill to make it.
Michele D'Amico on fri 12 dec 03
I hope someone at Laguna is paying attention!
Michele D'Amico
damicom@cruzio.com
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