claybair on mon 15 dec 03
The end rolls I get from our local paper are 2' to 3' tall.
These are quite manageable! Before I found that the local
paper was less than 1/2 mile from my house I bought some
cut newsprint ...... was 12"x20" for a 3" thick stack and cost $6.
Definitely not as good a deal as these end rolls. I think I was charged
20 cents an inch! Once the paper is gone the heavy cardboard roll
is useful too.
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Skeen
Woo HOO! I don't think even mel has a place to store or means of moving a
whole roll of newspaper-plant-size newsprint! Those suckers are almost as
big around as I am tall (5'6"). Even the end bolts are kinda heavy, so god
only knows how much a whole roll weighs.........
You may be able to get newsprint on a smaller roll from an art supply store
like Dick Blick.
You can DEFINiTELY buy SHEETS of newsprint from them.
L. P. Skeen http://www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Pottery
Summerfield, NC
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pot bottoms/signing
> From: "John Rodgers"
> It may be that you can buy a whole roll of newsprint paper. Don't know
> what the sources would be, but your local newspaper might sell you
> one,> or at least tell you a source. Newsprint rolls come in different
> sizes, but in any case it's a lot of paper. But it would last you a very
long
> time.
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mel jacobson on mon 15 dec 03
here again we have a style and a need...promotion.
i have a 50 mile circle around my house...i work it.
michael has a 5 thousand mile circle around his house.
he works it.
we both work our circle hard and sell pots...that is the
reason we make them. he has found a way.
i have found a way.
i mostly sign my pots with a small japanese wooden stamp.
he adds information that is necessary for his next sale.
we are both right. we do what we need to do.
my customers search for that stamp. if it is not there, they
would set the pot down and get one just like it with the
stamp. i have had folks return a mug to me that did not
have my stamp on it. `mel, i am giving this nice mug to a
friend as a gift. it must have your stamp on it`.
i laugh, tell them...`who the hell do you think i am, picasso?
it is just a mug.` `well, they say, it is important to us that
iT is stamped, so do it.`
I DO. THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT
i could no more put a hanging tag on a pot than anything.
i hate them. it does not work for me. makes me feel like
walmart.
just like i have to put a piece of masking tape on the pot, with
a felt marker `45`(that is bucks). i do not use price tags that are purchased.
tape just peels right off. throw it away. some of those price tags
never come off. you have to use a propane torch on them.
and the big one:
i wrap my pots in old newpapers. recycle.
i am going to have to buy tissue.
after a sale i am one big black, dirty xerox smudge.
i hate it. i am thinking that the used grocery bag
and old newspaper is getting cheesy.
i have bought 300 nice new boxes....for mailing and
gift wrap for customers. so, bags and tissue may
be next. but, that adds to the price of the sale.
and, it adds up fast.
mel/ just finished doing books, checks, banking stuff.
and, i do a profit/loss.
no loss this time...just profit.
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: my.pclink.com/~melpots
or try: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
new/ http://www.rid-a-tick.com
Judith S. Labovitz on mon 15 dec 03
Hi...jumping in here with our guild's "solution" to the inky mess of
recycled newspapers for wrapping pots....we buy rolls (end bolts when we
can) of unprinted newsprint paper....it is great....sturdy, clean....
we use all sorts of recycled bags...be they the kraft grocery bags, or
fancy boutique...doesn;t matter...we use what we can get
however, we do still use the ugly string tags...we have yet to come up
with a method to track 36 potters and 1000's of pots...even though the tags
sometimes get lost....
judy in cold. snowy mid Michigan ...as usual....as it will be for the
next 4 months....)
At 06:04 AM 12/15/03 -0600, you wrote:
>here again we have a style and a need...promotion.
>
>i have a 50 mile circle around my house...i work it.
>michael has a 5 thousand mile circle around his house.
>he works it.
>
>we both work our circle hard and sell pots...that is the
>reason we make them. he has found a way.
>i have found a way.
>
>i mostly sign my pots with a small japanese wooden stamp.
>he adds information that is necessary for his next sale.
>we are both right. we do what we need to do.
>my customers search for that stamp. if it is not there, they
>would set the pot down and get one just like it with the
>stamp. i have had folks return a mug to me that did not
>have my stamp on it. `mel, i am giving this nice mug to a
>friend as a gift. it must have your stamp on it`.
>i laugh, tell them...`who the hell do you think i am, picasso?
>it is just a mug.` `well, they say, it is important to us that
>iT is stamped, so do it.`
>I DO. THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT
>
>i could no more put a hanging tag on a pot than anything.
>i hate them. it does not work for me. makes me feel like
>walmart.
>just like i have to put a piece of masking tape on the pot, with
>a felt marker `45`(that is bucks). i do not use price tags that are
>purchased.
>tape just peels right off. throw it away. some of those price tags
>never come off. you have to use a propane torch on them.
>
>and the big one:
>i wrap my pots in old newpapers. recycle.
>i am going to have to buy tissue.
>after a sale i am one big black, dirty xerox smudge.
>i hate it. i am thinking that the used grocery bag
>and old newspaper is getting cheesy.
>i have bought 300 nice new boxes....for mailing and
>gift wrap for customers. so, bags and tissue may
>be next. but, that adds to the price of the sale.
>and, it adds up fast.
>mel/ just finished doing books, checks, banking stuff.
>and, i do a profit/loss.
>no loss this time...just profit.
>
>
>
>
>From:
>Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
>web site: my.pclink.com/~melpots
>or try: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
>new/ http://www.rid-a-tick.com
>
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Jim Kasper on mon 15 dec 03
Mel,
End rolls of newsprint from the local newspaper. The last one I got was 5' long 8" diameter. A razor cut around circumferance and one cut down the length ( pressing quite hard) yields about 100 sheets of clean wrapping paper. The friend who turned me on to this would cut the roll in half and hang it on a pipe, then just tear or cut off each sheet as needed.
Regards,
Jim
>
> From: mel jacobson
> and the big one:
> i wrap my pots in old newpapers. recycle.
> i am going to have to buy tissue.
> after a sale i am one big black, dirty xerox smudge.
> i hate it. i am thinking that the used grocery bag
> and old newspaper is getting cheesy.
Lee Love on mon 15 dec 03
We all have to find our own way about these things. I
stamp most of my pots, but sometimes I don't. My favorite pots by other
living potters are usually "signed in the making." I will also use
stamps as decoration, especially on larger work. My main stamps are the
kanji for li (same as Korean Yi, it means plum tree), Dairin in an old
square chinese script (Dairin is the name my Zen teacher gave me) and the
kanji for Ikiru (To Live, from the Kurosawa movie of the same name), which
is the name of my pottery/kiln. But I also have other stamps I'ved made
including stamps for the kanji of the animal and the element of the year,
from the Chinese zodiac. I have various other "one of a kind" stamps,
paddles and rollers that I use for making impressions for inlay. If I
don't stamp li on the bottom of the pot, it is possible it is "identified"
with one of these other stamps.
Often here in Japan, at gallery sales, potters will take a little
piece of washi ( handmade paper) and stamp their hanko on the paper and then
glue this on the bottom of the pot with the number of the pot on it.
This looks much nicer than tape or stickers. Actually, it is hard to find
masking tape in Japan. On occassion, I've seen drafting tape, but it is
expensive. What I have seen in the hardware that house painters use is
rolls of paper that are sticky at one edge. They do have passible duct
tape.
--
Lee In Mashiko, Japan
http://Mashiko.org
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John Rodgers on mon 15 dec 03
mel jacobson wrote:
>
> and the big one:
> i wrap my pots in old newpapers. recycle.
> i am going to have to buy tissue.
> after a sale i am one big black, dirty xerox smudge.
> i hate it. i am thinking that the used grocery bag
> and old newspaper is getting cheesy.
> i have bought 300 nice new boxes....for mailing and
> gift wrap for customers. so, bags and tissue may
> be next. but, that adds to the price of the sale.
> and, it adds up fast.
Mel,
When I had my studio in Alaska I learned real quick about using
newsprint for packing. I was wrapping and packing white porcelain
figurines. What a mess!! Hated that printer's ink. Then I tried putting
each piece in a plastic bag, then packing with newsprint. Still a mess,
but at least the procelain stayed clean. Then I found out the local
newpaper sold end rolls of unprinted newspaper. I could buy it by the
inch of thickness remaining on the roll. I usually was able to get end
rolls with a 6 inch radius remaining on the core. This worked. The paper
was clean, and cheap. If those end rolls can still be found, it be one
solution to the print ink problem.
It may be that you can buy a whole roll of newsprint paper. Don't know
what the sources would be, but your local newspaper might sell you one,
or at least tell you a source. Newsprint rolls come in different sizes,
but in any case it's a lot of paper. But it would last you a very long
time.
I used the newsprint paper for both wrapping of the piece, and
padding/packing material to protect the piece in the box.
These days I don't do enough volume to justify buying the rolls anymore,
but if I did, I would go back to the news print paper. I never found
anything else any more economical.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Lisa Skeen on mon 15 dec 03
The newspaper here will give you end bolts of newsprint for free. Alls ya gotta do is go pick it up. :)
L. P. Skeen http://www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Pottery
Summerfield, NC
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pot bottoms/signing
> From: "Judith S. Labovitz"
> Date: Mon, December 15, 2003 5:44 am
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>
> Hi...jumping in here with our guild's "solution" to the inky mess of
> recycled newspapers for wrapping pots....we buy rolls (end bolts when
> we
> can) of unprinted newsprint paper....it is great....sturdy, clean....
Lisa Skeen on mon 15 dec 03
I have never been able to come up with a stamp that I like. I always put my name on the bottom of pots, and recently have taken a page from one of the Cole women down in Sanford - if there's room, I write something that happened that day - weather, historical event. Too bad I wasn't throwing yesterday.........
L. P. Skeen http://www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Pottery
Summerfield, NC
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pot bottoms/signing
> From: "Lee Love"
> Date: Mon, December 15, 2003 6:53 am
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>
> We all have to find our own way about these things. I
> stamp most of my pots, but sometimes I don't.
Lisa Skeen on mon 15 dec 03
Woo HOO! I don't think even mel has a place to store or means of moving a whole roll of newspaper-plant-size newsprint! Those suckers are almost as big around as I am tall (5'6"). Even the end bolts are kinda heavy, so god only knows how much a whole roll weighs.........
You may be able to get newsprint on a smaller roll from an art supply store like Dick Blick.
You can DEFINiTELY buy SHEETS of newsprint from them.
L. P. Skeen http://www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Pottery
Summerfield, NC
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pot bottoms/signing
> From: "John Rodgers"
> It may be that you can buy a whole roll of newsprint paper. Don't know
> what the sources would be, but your local newspaper might sell you
> one,> or at least tell you a source. Newsprint rolls come in different
> sizes, but in any case it's a lot of paper. But it would last you a very long
> time.
Runyan,Jacob on mon 15 dec 03
and the big one:
i wrap my pots in old newpapers. recycle.
i am going to have to buy tissue.
after a sale i am one big black, dirty xerox smudge.
i hate it. i am thinking that the used grocery bag
and old newspaper is getting cheesy.
i have bought 300 nice new boxes....for mailing and
gift wrap for customers. so, bags and tissue may
be next. but, that adds to the price of the sale.
and, it adds up fast.
My parents are in the antique business. They have begun
purchasing paper table cloth covers from catering supply
places to wrap stuff in when they make a sale. It's cheap,
and you dont look like a newsboy at the end of the day.
Foam peanuts are cheap if you dont mind the mess.
-Jacob
Snail Scott on mon 15 dec 03
At 08:17 AM 12/15/03 -0600, you wrote:
>It may be that you can buy a whole roll of newsprint paper.
A full roll of newsprint would need a forklift
to move around...stick to the end-rolls!
-Snail
Jennifer Boyer on mon 15 dec 03
Watch out for tissue. It's really not made to wrap fragile stuff. It's
mainly for clothing. You have to use a TON to make a good layer since
it compresses easily. Newsprint weight paper is better since it holds
its wrinkles and doesn't compress......
Jennifer speaking as a gallery cooperative member: broken stuff comes
back in tissue.....
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 10:16 AM, Runyan,Jacob wrote:
> and the big one:
> i wrap my pots in old newpapers. recycle.
> i am going to have to buy tissue.
> after a sale i am one big black, dirty xerox smudge.
> i hate it. i am thinking that the used grocery bag
> and old newspaper is getting cheesy.
> i have bought 300 nice new boxes....for mailing and
> gift wrap for customers. so, bags and tissue may
> be next. but, that adds to the price of the sale.
> and, it adds up fast.
>
>
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Mayssan Shora Farra on mon 15 dec 03
Mel:
Why not get some newsprint from the local newspaper they give them free
( you would still be recycling) and they have no ink on them and they are
better than tissue to wrap pots.
Tissue is too soft and has no substance to protect pottery.
Just my opinion, I do use tissue for wrapping my fragile claybeings but for
real pottery newsprint is it.
Thanks for the northern light thread, made me see them even without seeing
them:)
Mayssan
http://www.clayvillepottery.com
Laurie Kneppel on mon 15 dec 03
There is a reason that newsprint is priced by the TON.
laurie
Sacramento, CA
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 09:01 AM, Snail Scott wrote:
> At 08:17 AM 12/15/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> It may be that you can buy a whole roll of newsprint paper.
>
>
> A full roll of newsprint would need a forklift
> to move around...stick to the end-rolls!
>
> -Snail
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