pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 28 dec 03
Hi Mel, all...
Thank you Mel...
As an on-going 'conversation' in it's way...
I think of the 'Clayart' even as I may imagine an on-going
conversation in my Home, amid Artists and Craftsmen,
Craftswomen and or Crafts gender-ambiguous for that matter,
as may be, and such additional interested parties as are in
on the fun...
So within reason, when it may be of import to our interests
somehow...I appreciate that the odd 'non-clay' foray has
been graciously countenanced.
Too...I doubt for myself that I have spent one one-hundreth
of a percent, of the time I have spent Making Things,
engauged in conversation or analysis about making things,
let alone to do so as academics may, who themselves most
often, have never made anything but what is conduced by
obligeing infrastructure unto the Water Treatment facilities
of their local estuaries or the like...
The Book "The Painted Word" as our bud Arti once
recommended, remains a good primer for some added
appreciation on the matter of 'Art' and...it's "role"...
Or as my pal (tho' giving me the 'silent treatment' for a
while now,) Lee might mention, if he has not done so yet;
The happy go lucky old "Jamon" seemed to have done work as
stands nicely all by itself, without protracted
interpretation or explaination, nor any liberal explications
as to it's social relevances, nor does the Work seem to be
less for the absence of analysis and expanded conceptual
digressions in Artspeak, social-comment-speak, or other...
It was and is the 'Spoke' plenty well enough.
Whilst no 'Pots' have yet to my knowledge been attributed to
the Nieandertal Peoples, there are extant, exemplars of some
of their (unfired) sculpture in Clay...and, not
surprisingly, they are splendid in their delicate, vivid
way...
But...fun to weigh and consider and assert as we feel
sincere to do...
I appreciate all of it...
Best wishes ye and all...
And may it be...a Happy, Productive, Satisfying and good fun
of a A.D. 2004 to all...
Yours,
Phil
lasvegas
----- Original Message -----
From: "mel jacobson"
> you will note that janet kept her reply to vince
> under twenty pages, and phil kept his
> at 12, of course it is about the theory of
> `mad cow disease`.
> totally clay related.
>
> but, i can honestly say:
>
> i have been doing art seriously for about
> 53 years. almost every day.
> and in that time i have spent about a total
> of twenty minutes mulling `what is art?`
> the rest of the time was spent doing it, because
> i love doing it so much. good, bad, crappy, successful,
> i just do it. i make stuff, build stuff, have happy
accidents
> doing stuff....i love to help folks do stuff.
> but, 100 pages of `artspeak` is not my thing.
>
> i am glad others do it, then i do not have to participate.
> it just gives me more time to `make stuff`. and, of
course
> all my pots have a hidden message...but you have to spin
them
> on a wheel backwards to define the message. at 45 rpm's.
> it you go to fast or too slow, the story is lost forever.
>
> the message is:
> `drink soup from me.`
> ` i am pretty, use me for ice cream.`
> `drink tea from me.`
> `serve potatoes from me.`
> `hot dish, hot dish, no haggis, for god's sake, no
ludefisk.`
> `how come i am white and not iron red?`
> mel
> From:
> Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
> web site: my.pclink.com/~melpots
> or try: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
> new/ http://www.rid-a-tick.com
mel jacobson on sun 28 dec 03
you will note that janet kept her reply to vince
under twenty pages, and phil kept his
at 12, of course it is about the theory of
`mad cow disease`.
totally clay related.
but, i can honestly say:
i have been doing art seriously for about
53 years. almost every day.
and in that time i have spent about a total
of twenty minutes mulling `what is art?`
the rest of the time was spent doing it, because
i love doing it so much. good, bad, crappy, successful,
i just do it. i make stuff, build stuff, have happy accidents
doing stuff....i love to help folks do stuff.
but, 100 pages of `artspeak` is not my thing.
i am glad others do it, then i do not have to participate.
it just gives me more time to `make stuff`. and, of course
all my pots have a hidden message...but you have to spin them
on a wheel backwards to define the message. at 45 rpm's.
it you go to fast or too slow, the story is lost forever.
the message is:
`drink soup from me.`
` i am pretty, use me for ice cream.`
`drink tea from me.`
`serve potatoes from me.`
`hot dish, hot dish, no haggis, for god's sake, no ludefisk.`
`how come i am white and not iron red?`
mel
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
web site: my.pclink.com/~melpots
or try: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
new/ http://www.rid-a-tick.com
Vince Pitelka on mon 29 dec 03
> Too...I doubt for myself that I have spent one one-hundreth
> of a percent, of the time I have spent Making Things,
> engauged in conversation or analysis about making things,
> let alone to do so as academics may, who themselves most
> often, have never made anything but what is conduced by
> obligeing infrastructure unto the Water Treatment facilities
> of their local estuaries or the like...
Phil -
I love the way you write, and I appreciate all that you contribute to
Clayart, but in my experience the above paragraph applies to very few of the
academics in university studio art departments around the country. Most
good universities are very thorough about making sure that their faculty
remain productive, and most faculty WANT to remain productive. Most of the
art faculty I have ever known feel very fortunate to have their jobs, and
are enthusiastic about what they do.
Where did you formulate such negative opinions about academia? I'd love to
know. As you can probably tell, my own experience has been almost
completely opposite, and I am very supportive of academic education in art.
Sure, that is partly because I am an academic, but it is also because I see
so many people getting excellent training in art in colleges and
universities around the country.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
1560 Craft Center Drive, Smithville TN 37166
Home - vpitelka@dtccom.net
615/597-5376
Office - wpitelka@tntech.edu
615/597-6801 x111, FAX 615/597-6803
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
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