search  current discussion  categories  glazes - specific colors 

freight train blues and the set up of a new studio.

updated sat 10 jan 04

 

Al Sather on tue 6 jan 04


Greetings All



I have just moved into the lower mainland of the Fraser Valley, in British
Columbia from Newfoundland. I am sure this storm beating on the North West
coast of Washington and South West coast of BC is designed to make me
homesick <>



While Newfoundland does not have trains, the house we just purchased in very
near the main CPR line with frequent heavy freight trains. Now as each train
goes by, they shake and rattle the whole house (reminiscent of the standing
joke from "Petticoat Junction"). Note: this is not a hyperbole. The whistles
from the trains could be annoying, but being in a earth quake zone,
nonetheless their wail is reassuring <>.



As the winter will soon be moving into spring, I would like to convert the
garage into a studio. The vibrations from trains are not nearly so severe
when outside or in the garage. But, before investing in the conversion of
the garage to suitable studio space, I am concerned that the vibrations will
cause problems.



Does anyone have suggestions as how to determine if these trains could be a
problem?

While freshly thrown pieces are most vulnerable, their collapse is but a
minor frustration compared to their collapse in the gloss fire!





Al Sather

Dogberry Clay Studio

Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada

Vo1qe@rac.ca

David Hendley on wed 7 jan 04


For 7 years my pottery studio was 30 yards from several train tracks,
on the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe line.
We even had our own little side track and could buy clay by the boxcar
load and have it delivered right to the door.
The trains never at all interfered with our pottery-making, even though
you could feel the vibration right through the thin air as one passed by.

I think a concrete slab foundation is better than a pier and beam
building for resisting train vibrations, so your garage should be a fine
place for a studio. You will probably grow to appreciate the
periodic distraction of hearing the Doppler-effected approaching
whistles and soon-to-follow rumblings.

David Hendley
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Sather"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:03 AM
Subject: Freight Train Blues and the set up of a new studio.


> Greetings All
>
>
>
> I have just moved into the lower mainland of the Fraser Valley, in British
> Columbia from Newfoundland. I am sure this storm beating on the North West
> coast of Washington and South West coast of BC is designed to make me
> homesick <>
>
>
>
> While Newfoundland does not have trains, the house we just purchased in
very
> near the main CPR line with frequent heavy freight trains. Now as each
train
> goes by, they shake and rattle the whole house (reminiscent of the
standing
> joke from "Petticoat Junction"). Note: this is not a hyperbole. The
whistles
> from the trains could be annoying, but being in a earth quake zone,
> nonetheless their wail is reassuring <>.
>
>
>
> As the winter will soon be moving into spring, I would like to convert the
> garage into a studio. The vibrations from trains are not nearly so severe
> when outside or in the garage. But, before investing in the conversion of
> the garage to suitable studio space, I am concerned that the vibrations
will
> cause problems.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have suggestions as how to determine if these trains could be
a
> problem?
>
> While freshly thrown pieces are most vulnerable, their collapse is but a
> minor frustration compared to their collapse in the gloss fire!
>
>
>
>
>
> Al Sather
>
> Dogberry Clay Studio
>
> Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada
>
> Vo1qe@rac.ca
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.

Jon Brinley on wed 7 jan 04


Al,

My grandmother(rest her soul) lived less than 50'=20
from not one but 6 sets of tracks. Albeit they where=20
in town limits and only once did I see a train go by at speeds=20
higher than 10 mph. It was an express of some nature. And only slowed to =
get through a switch back( or side track if you prefer)
In the 63 years she lived in this house, she claimed never once did =
anything fall off of a shelf or break because of the trains. It did =
however rattle the gizzards out of you at 2:00 am and 4:00 am. All the =
others where during the day and we expected those, Cause We Could Hear =
the Train a Coming.

Jon in Midland=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Al Sather=20
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:03 PM
Subject: Freight Train Blues and the set up of a new studio.


Greetings All



I have just moved into the lower mainland of the Fraser Valley, in =
British
Columbia from Newfoundland. I am sure this storm beating on the North =
West
coast of Washington and South West coast of BC is designed to make me
homesick <>



While Newfoundland does not have trains, the house we just purchased =
in very
near the main CPR line with frequent heavy freight trains. Now as each =
train
goes by, they shake and rattle the whole house (reminiscent of the =
standing
joke from "Petticoat Junction"). Note: this is not a hyperbole. The =
whistles
from the trains could be annoying, but being in a earth quake zone,
nonetheless their wail is reassuring <>.



As the winter will soon be moving into spring, I would like to convert =
the
garage into a studio. The vibrations from trains are not nearly so =
severe
when outside or in the garage. But, before investing in the conversion =
of
the garage to suitable studio space, I am concerned that the =
vibrations will
cause problems.



Does anyone have suggestions as how to determine if these trains could =
be a
problem?

While freshly thrown pieces are most vulnerable, their collapse is but =
a
minor frustration compared to their collapse in the gloss fire!





Al Sather

Dogberry Clay Studio

Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada

Vo1qe@rac.ca

=
_________________________________________________________________________=
_____
Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org

You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/

Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at =
melpots@pclink.com.

Janet Kaiser on thu 8 jan 04


Welcome back Al! Where have you been between leaving St. John's
and now? Must be a good year or two? Did you hike over to the
west coast or take a sailboat via The Horn, instead of the direct
route? LOL!

Seriously... When I lived in Montreal, there was a mainline train
track just one house away at the bottom of the cul-de-sac street
where I lived. As it was in the days when you could get on the
train and not get off until you reached the west coast (I believe
they stopped that service?) plus all the freight went by rail...
It was a main line/s, also taking local high-speed commuter
traffic and could hardly be any less frequented than where you
are now? Anyway, it is much as John describes. You always had
some warning and it was surprising how quickly newcomers would
become accustomed to the noise and the vibrations. And yes... You
will feel the shaking more, the higher up in a building or off
the ground to get... Being in shakin' quakin' country at least
the building regulations will be adequate for all eventualities!
LOL

It is only a matter of moments each time too, so any real shaking
and vibration, or at least enough to disturb throwing rhythm or
concentration, would be very fleeting. You will be fascinated by
the way your slop bucket / throwing water reacts too... You may
find that is as good as any of your own sensory early warnings
(feeling or hearing).

Sincerely

Janet Kaiser

*** IN REPLY TO THE FOLLOWING MAIL:
>In the 63 years she lived in this house, she claimed never once
did
>anything fall off of a shelf or break because of the trains. It
did
>however rattle the gizzards out of you at 2:00 am and 4:00 am.
All the
>others where during the day and we expected those, Cause We
Could Hear the
>Train a Coming.

*** THE MAIL FROM Jon Brinley ENDS HERE ***
***********************************************************
The Chapel of Art : Capel Celfyddyd
8 Marine Crescent : Criccieth : Wales : UK
Home of The International Potters' Path
Tel: ++44 (01766) 523570 http://www.the-coa.org.uk

************* Virus Protection by AVG *****************
BOYCOTT COCA-COLA NOW!!
Make them stop stealing water for their
bottling plant in Southern India!!
"A world in perfect harmony"? So what happened?
***********************************************************

Al Sather on thu 8 jan 04


-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of David Hendley
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:54 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: [CLAYART] Freight Train Blues and the set up of a new studio.

For 7 years my pottery studio was 30 yards from several train tracks,
on the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe line.





Thank you, David, for your story. I now have several such stories, and
becoming confident that all will be well. If not, then I just will have to
develop train resistant techniques <>

Your comments and that of others are putting my worst fears into the trash
can.

And, I am looking forward to getting muddy hands in the spring.

Al
Dogberry Clay Stduio
Maple Ridge, BC, Canada

Charnley McCrorey on fri 9 jan 04


I am concerned that the vibrations will cause problems.

I lived by the train tracks (1/2 a block away) in Puyallup, the only problems
we ever had were during porcelain firings, those had to be timed carefully
against the regular train schedule. Porcelain is NOT forgiving about being
rattled during firing. Everything else, low and high fire, Thrown or hand built,
Bisque and glaze to cone 6 did just fine. Hope it is helpful.

Charnley
Laughing Lion Productions

Al Sather on fri 9 jan 04


Thank you for the warning.

I fire cone 6 electric stoneware, so I do not think your cautions apply (I
hope!) However, I will bear that in mind. Now, are you talking about real
porcelain or ^6 porcelain or both.

I was thinking (long range thinking) of doing some mid fire porcelain slip
casting for sculpture, but stoneware might work just as well.

Nonetheless, I shall be wary of porcelain.

Again, Thank you

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Charnley
McCrorey
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:46 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: [CLAYART] Freight Train Blues and the set up of a new studio.

I am concerned that the vibrations will cause problems.

I lived by the train tracks (1/2 a block away) in Puyallup, the only
problems
we ever had were during porcelain firings, those had to be timed carefully
against the regular train schedule. Porcelain is NOT forgiving about being
rattled during firing. Everything else, low and high fire, Thrown or hand
built,
Bisque and glaze to cone 6 did just fine. Hope it is helpful.

Charnley
Laughing Lion Productions

____________________________________________________________________________
__
Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org

You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/

Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.