wayneinkeywest on wed 7 jan 04
need to move!
Phil:
As we are getting to retire, Joe and I have been investigating
other areas of the country which would be cheaper to live (in)
than our present digs. So far, we have found extremely
inexpensive land/house/farms in
West Virginia, Tennessee, Maine, and parts of upstate NY.
I have a number of good websites for realty companies that
specialize in "country" land. They seem to have a handle
(no pun intended) on lower cost properties.
E-mail me off list (anyone) and I'll share those websites.
This topic can rapidly go OT.
One caveat: Like anything else, don't buy without
checking it thoroughly first, in person! We have already
found three places on the Superfund list (yikes!)
Wayne Seidl
> Hi all...
>
>
>
> Let me know (off Site) if there are any Old Buildings in
> your area as
> may be had cheap.
>
>
> I need some Commercial type space, from 3,000 to 10,000
> sq.feet there-abouts.
>
> Must be Old, earnest, and in decent or reasonably repairable
> condition.
> Must be cheap, as either where some County has seised for
> 'back
> taxes', some languishing private party offering with a
> curled up 1972 Calandar on the wall, or whatever...
>
> (Minnesota has many good ones to choose from of both
> kinds...so does Detroit...)
> Regards,
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Philip Poburka
Krista Peterson on wed 7 jan 04
need to move!
Hey there Philip,
Well, I used to live in Phoenix and I know a couple who has been buying crappy old buildings in questionable
neighborhoods and renovating them into artist studios. They have been pretty successful and the areas they
have buildings in are slowly improving. Phoenix is still cheaper to live than many places and the art scene
is always trying to get better. The area I'm talking about has regular art events(First Fridays and Art Detour) and there are no coop ceramic studios like there are here in Portland. The only way someone that has no equipment could work in clay is to take a class at an art center so that would be a possible way for someone to cover their costs if they have a good sized building. You obviously know what kind of heat you'd be dealing with. Let me know if you'd be interested in the Phoenix area and I can contact these people to see if they know of anything. I think I remember them purchasing an old building for $3000 or some ridiculously low price once. Although condos have gone up since I left and maybe the realestate has too.
Good luck
Krista Peterson
-----Original Message-----
From: pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET
Sent: Jan 6, 2004 5:20 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Help me find an old Building somewhere - Bison Studios & I really need to move!
Hi all...
Let me know (off Site) if there are any Old Buildings in
your area as
may be had cheap.
I need some Commercial type space, from 3,000 to 10,000
sq.feet there-abouts.
Must be Old, earnest, and in decent or reasonably repairable
condition.
Must be cheap, as either where some County has seised for
'back
taxes', some languishing private party offering with a
curled up 1972 Calandar on the wall, or whatever...
(Minnesota has many good ones to choose from of both
kinds...so does Detroit...)
And priced as from a few grand up to maybe 50 grand...
I am very open minded as to location.
My present location is likely going to terminate soon, maybe
quite soon even...after
17 years of being here in this spot...and, in theory, this
whole neighborhood is slated to be razed anyway.
Which is fine with me as I do want TO move...
The challange has been two fold: "Where" to go?
... and, where as
will have something I can afford...?
I missed the opportunities in Tacoma Washington ( 1997ish),
and on some areas of Indianna ( early 1990s)...sigh...
Any ideas or information would be greatly appreciated...
I am exploreing other angles as well, such as inquireing of
various Counties in various States, and thought if I asked
you all, maybe I might get lucky...or find some good
leads...
Regards,
Best Wishes,
Philip Poburka
proiprietor - maker, &c.,
Bison Studios
Las Vegas
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Andrew_M_Casto@PROGRESSIVE.COM on wed 7 jan 04
need to move!
Hey Phil - Check out this month's edition of "this old house" at your local
magazine rack - on the inside of the back page is a "save this old house"
section - this month it's an 1850's plantation mansion in Mississippi (in
pretty rough, but restorable shape) on 16 acres with an adjacent cabin -
the price listed is $60k. It says that they would consider any offer, but
that the seller wants the place to be restored. Could be a pretty nice
studio space - who knows.
Andy
pdp1@EARTHLINK.N
ET To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent by: Clayart cc:
AMICS.ORG> really need to move!
01/06/04 08:20
PM
Please respond
to Clayart
Hi all...
Let me know (off Site) if there are any Old Buildings in
your area as
may be had cheap.
I need some Commercial type space, from 3,000 to 10,000
sq.feet there-abouts.
Must be Old, earnest, and in decent or reasonably repairable
condition.
Must be cheap, as either where some County has seised for
'back
taxes', some languishing private party offering with a
curled up 1972 Calandar on the wall, or whatever...
(Minnesota has many good ones to choose from of both
kinds...so does Detroit...)
And priced as from a few grand up to maybe 50 grand...
I am very open minded as to location.
My present location is likely going to terminate soon, maybe
quite soon even...after
17 years of being here in this spot...and, in theory, this
whole neighborhood is slated to be razed anyway.
Which is fine with me as I do want TO move...
The challange has been two fold: "Where" to go?
... and, where as
will have something I can afford...?
I missed the opportunities in Tacoma Washington ( 1997ish),
and on some areas of Indianna ( early 1990s)...sigh...
Any ideas or information would be greatly appreciated...
I am exploreing other angles as well, such as inquireing of
various Counties in various States, and thought if I asked
you all, maybe I might get lucky...or find some good
leads...
Regards,
Best Wishes,
Philip Poburka
proiprietor - maker, &c.,
Bison Studios
Las Vegas
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Stephani Stephenson on thu 8 jan 04
need to move
HI Phil
I think you will be limited as not too many place are set up to handle
bison.
OK, seriously, now
in the west I think of
Butte , Montana
Southeast and mid to south and east Colorado
almost anywhere in Kansas
maybe Nebraska, the Dakotas too
NE Oregon, though there's so much public land and large landholdings,
and towns are so small there's not always a lot to choose from building
wise.
In the west look for established small cities , agricultural or mining
cities
who have seen their heyday come and go, but still have some
infrastructure.
the other variables are all personal preference, climate with regard
to weather, business, culture, etc.
There are some well established smaller cities in Kansas,
that have not grown with the passage of time.
One set of grandparents lived in Hutchinson, KS, a thriving little
metropolis , it seemed,
when I was a child, brick streets, nice downtown.
downtown now is a ghost of former self
but buildings, yes, nice brick, midwest solid, very reasonably priced
when you come from the 'hot growth' layers of the west.
sign me
entrepeneurial barnicle clinging to the side of the SS Southgern
California... for now!
Stephani Stephenson
steph@alchemiestudio.com
Millie Carpenter on sun 11 jan 04
need to move!
Hi
check out Baltimore, Md. at http://www.livebaltimore.com/ there are
some really great bargains in wearhouses in the city, a friend of mine
bought a building that he uses to restore antique player instruments.
I can put you in touch with him if you want. also there are lots of
tax incentives for restoring old buildings. and for 50K you could buy
several buildings. there is a thriving art community here.
Millie in Md. where it is suddenly winter.
On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 08:20 PM, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
> Hi all...
>
>
>
> Let me know (off Site) if there are any Old Buildings in
> your area as
> may be had cheap.
>
>
> I need some Commercial type space, from 3,000 to 10,000
> sq.feet there-abouts.
>
> Must be Old, earnest, and in decent or reasonably repairable
> condition.
> Must be cheap, as either where some County has seised for
> 'back
> taxes', some languishing private party offering with a
> curled up 1972 Calandar on the wall, or whatever...
>
> (Minnesota has many good ones to choose from of both
> kinds...so does Detroit...)
>
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