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shipping a kiln - help

updated tue 13 jan 04

 

John Weber on sat 10 jan 04


Does anyone have any experience in shipping a kiln across the country -
economically! I have a large 65 cu ft kiln that will be taken apart, so I
will have brick, steel frame, burners, etc. that will need to be shipped
across the country. I have heard of shrink wrapping on a pallet but I don't
have any access to anyone who uses that process. Any suggestions or help
would be deeply appreciated.

JODO Pottery
Manakin-Sabot, VA
E-Mail: jodopottery@comcast.net
WEB PAGE: http://home.comcast.net/~jodopottery/index.htm

Earl Brunner on sat 10 jan 04


One of the things they use is giant rolls of saran wrap type plastic,
it's clingy plastic wrap that you roll around and around the stack of
stuff. If you boxed the bricks first, you could white glue the boxes
together onto a pallet and then finish off with the cling wrap

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of John Weber
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 3:22 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Shipping a Kiln - help

Does anyone have any experience in shipping a kiln across the country -
economically! I have a large 65 cu ft kiln that will be taken apart, so
I
will have brick, steel frame, burners, etc. that will need to be shipped
across the country. I have heard of shrink wrapping on a pallet but I
don't
have any access to anyone who uses that process. Any suggestions or
help
would be deeply appreciated.

Susan Fox-Hirschmann on sat 10 jan 04


I just shipped lots of well packed boxes, regular UPS....so if you can get it
apart and have it packed well, as long as the parts do not exceed the weight
and size restricitons....UPS would be the best bet.
You can call a common carrier---ESTES or RED START----but they will
definitely be more and you will need a loading dock, possibly at either end, etc.
BESt of luck,
and warm regards to you two,
Susan


Susan Fox Hirschmann
Art Pottery
please visit http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/hirschmann

Ingeborg Foco on sat 10 jan 04


> Does anyone have any experience in shipping a kiln across the country -
> economically!


John,

I shipped a 30 cubic foot car kiln from Washington State to SW Florida. I
wouldn't say it is economical, but I had no choice........ no one wants to
pay much for a used kiln (everyone expects the bricks for free)and then I
would have had to purchase a new set up here in SW Florida costing
considerably more. So for me it was a no brainer. Ship the dragon!!

My kiln consists of a steel frame, car, rails, hard brick, soft brick, bag
walls and kawol door and roof. First of all I numbered each of the bricks.
Made a map of the numbering system. I figured out which size boxes would
work best for packing the bricks tightly and yet not so many that they were
too heavy. Purchased the appropriate book boxes. Soft bricks were all
packed together and marked accordingly, hard bricks packed in boxes labeled
and numbered accordingly. They were stacked and the moving company picked
them up and transported the boxes on to the van.

The movers wanted nothing to do with packing or unpacking the kiln. They
were happy to just move it.

Of course I shipped everything else that is in a studio. Kiln shelves,
wheel, tools etc etc. It was an experience that I prefer not to do again.
However, in general, everything went very well.

If I can give you more specifics, contact me off list.



Ingeborg
the Potter's Workshop & Gallery
P.O. Box 510
3058 Stringfellow Road
St. James City, Florida 33956

239-283-2775

Kathi LeSueur on sat 10 jan 04


jodopottery@COMCAST.NET wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience in shipping a kiln across the country -
>economically! I have a large 65 cu ft kiln that will be taken apart, so I
>will have brick, steel frame, burners, etc. that will need to be shipped
>across the country. I have heard of shrink wrapping on a pallet but I don't
>have any access to anyone who uses that process. Any suggestions or help
>would be deeply appreciated.
>
>
>
>
In 1987 I shipped my gas kiln from south Texas to Michigan. I boxed the
brick in banana boxes and stacked them on pallets. Make sure you put
cardboard between the bricks or they will wear against each other for
the whole trip. Burners were wrapped in bubble wrap, put in banana
boxes. These boxes were placed in the middle of th stack of boxes. The
trucking company picked up the pallets with a lift gate truck and shrink
wrapped them at the warehouse for me. I didn't ship the frame because I
was moving back here and I couldn't think of a way to pack it. So, I
just set it on the tongue of my trailer and tied it in place by taking
tie down strap and wrapping it all around the trailer (it was the only
time I was ever stopped at the checkpoint 50 miles north of the Mexico
border. They wanted to inspect the trailer. I said go ahead as long as
you repack everything. They let me go).

Figure out a reasonably accurate estimate of weight and then call
around for prices. Fire brick is "class 50". Just say, "I have 3500 lbs.
of class 50 weight to ship from point "A" to point "B". They will give
you a rate per 50 or 100 lbs.

But be forewarned. Some lie. They'll tell you one rate and when you go
to pick it up at the destination the rate will have changed. This
happened to me. Yellow Freight. Gave me a price. When I went to pick it
up in Michigan it was a different price. They said it was a "misquote".
I called the FCC. Got a guy who very frankly told me there was nothing
he could do. Called it fraud. That the Reagan administration would not
let them go after the freight companies. Deregulation meant there were
no rules. They could tell you one thing over the phone, but the "book"
rate may be different. Even if the rate was in writing, if the book said
something else you were SOL.Ain't deregulation great? I've never
allowed anything to be shipped by Yellow Freight in the 16 years since.
It might have just been that one office. I don't care, they didn't.

So, call around and talk to people who have lots of experience with
shipping freight. The lowest quote might not be the lowest price.

Kathi

piedpotterhamelin@COMCAST.NET on sun 11 jan 04


Freightquote.com
Great for comparison costs for shipping
Safe travels
Rick

--
"Many a wiser men than I hath
gone to pot." 1649
> One of the things they use is giant rolls of saran wrap type plastic,
> it's clingy plastic wrap that you roll around and around the stack of
> stuff. If you boxed the bricks first, you could white glue the boxes
> together onto a pallet and then finish off with the cling wrap
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of John Weber
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 3:22 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Shipping a Kiln - help
>
> Does anyone have any experience in shipping a kiln across the country -
> economically! I have a large 65 cu ft kiln that will be taken apart, so
> I
> will have brick, steel frame, burners, etc. that will need to be shipped
> across the country. I have heard of shrink wrapping on a pallet but I
> don't
> have any access to anyone who uses that process. Any suggestions or
> help
> would be deeply appreciated.
>
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Arnold Howard on mon 12 jan 04


John, I suggest making wooden crates. That, combined with sheets of
styrofoam, should get your kiln to its destination.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P.
arnoldhoward@att.net

From: "John Weber"
> Does anyone have any experience in shipping a kiln across the country -
> economically! I have a large 65 cu ft kiln that will be taken apart, so I
> will have brick, steel frame, burners, etc. that will need to be shipped
> across the country.