Bruce Freund on wed 14 jan 04
My name is Derrick and I am using my friend Bruce's computer with his
permission, while I baby sit his house for a few days. I am a college grad
and pretty much want to seriously pursue ceramics while I work at my job.
I have been throwing for about 6 months on an average of 6 hours a day. I
have done virtually nothing relative to glazing. I am only interested in
high fire stoneware and porcelain and only in gas firing. When I asked Bruce
where to start he suggested that I go onto this list and ask as he said the
people on this list had incredible knowledge and would steer me on a much
better course that he could.
I do not want to just start reading a bunch of different books and articles
in a haphazard way. I want a very structured way to go about learning
glazing literally from the ground up. I don't know if I should buy a
computer program and if so which one. I was hoping that there was a book or
two about high fire like the one called Mastering Cone 6 Glazes by Mr. Roy
that would take me on a glazing journey. I have watched Bruce and love Shino
work. I hope I am no bothering any one but I really do not want to waste my
time floundering around trying to figure out what to do. Hopefully some day
I too will be able to contribute something on this clayart list. In the mean
time I would be very grateful for any ideas.
Thank You Very Much,
Derrick Brewster
william schran on thu 15 jan 04
Derrick wrote:> I want a very structured way to go about learning
glazing literally from the ground up. I don't know if I should buy a
computer program and if so which one. I was hoping that there was a book or
two about high fire like the one called Mastering Cone 6 Glazes.....
that would take me on a glazing journey.<
I don't think you could find a much better source than "Mastering
Glazes" and as a companion John Hesselberth's "GlazeMaster" data base
& calculation program. Though the information is specifically
targeting mid range oxidation firing in an electric kiln, it's also
valid for low & high fire glazes - the procedures for glaze
development are the same, just materials and proportions are
different.
I'd also recommend visiting GlazeTeach,
http://www.matrix2000.co.nz/GlazeTeach/Index.htm
for an excellent web based glaze tutorial.
Bill
Linda R Hughes on thu 15 jan 04
Derrrick,
A question that touches my heart. There is a lot of information out =
there and it is not easy to find the stuff you understand at first.=20
You are fortunate to have access to a computer, check out Glaze Teach =
at:
www.matix2000.co.nz/GlazeTeach/Index.htm
Also:
www.digitalfire.com
There you will find a series of articles on anything to do with =
ceramics, some easy to understand common English, to not so easy, more =
complicated issues.
There are more, but that is a good start and will take a while to get =
through.
Oh, yes, I forgot John Hesslberth's paper on Glaze Stability at
www.frogpondpottery.com
a very important issue indeed !!!!
Enjoy, this topic is a never ending FUN puzzle
Linda
Linda R. Hughes
mamahug@comcast.net
Jeff Tsai on thu 15 jan 04
Derrick,
first off, as many of us on this list can attest to, you don't need to be an
expert to be a welcome addition to this list with valuable things to add and
offer. Many of our discussions and tangential discussions move into realms
where a degree in science or art is neither required nor always a benefit.
Secondly, if you want to get started in glaze calculation and composition
(regardless of the temperature or firing type) this is a good place to come. I
general background in glaze materials is important regardless of what types of
glazes you want to start out making, as most ingredients will become important
at some point.
The two most helpful books that gave me a foundation for understanding glazes
and glaze materials were:
Clay and Glazes for the Potter by Daniel Rhodes (most recently revised by
Robin Hopper)
and
Ceramic Spectrum by Robin Hopper
I liked Ceramic Spectrum a lot better as it spoke almost exclusively about
glazes. It also showed a couple good methods of testing glazes using various
kinds of blends.
There are books that speak specifically about high temperature glazes, but
these books will also either give you chapters of background on glaze materials
or expect you to have other reference books about those materials.
Online, and I wish I had addresses to give, there are several places you can
go that list glaze oxides and give you a wealth of information about them.
Some of those same sights also include tutorials about how to start making
glazes. I'm sure others on the list will be able to provide web adresses.
I hope you find what you're looking for and continue to speak and ask Qs on
the list
_jeffrey
Claire Normand on thu 15 jan 04
Hi Derrick,
Just like you, I've recently started studying high-fire glazes and I'd
really recommend Ian Currie's books. He's designed a grid method to
conduct glaze tests which is great to understand the different actors in
glaze composition. It's very "hands on", you prepare a bunch of little
tests and you see right away the impact on the glaze. Then if you want you
can also see the impact at formula level, I'm using Matrix to speed-up the
computing there. It's fun, a bit time consuming, but I'm learning a lot.
Ian Currie has 2 books, "Revealing glazes using the grid method" which
obviously describes his method step by step, it's an easy read. The other
one, "Stoneware Glazes - A Systematic Approach", is not so easy to read I
find, but each chapter talks about a specific type of glaze, so you can
focus on the glazes you really like. Personnaly I like iron saturated
glazes and am in the process of redoing some of the tests in that chapter.
You can check the archives, people have talked about these books a lot
better than I do, they've actually done such a great job I had to go buy
them...
Good luck,
Claire in sunny northern CA
Nana Underhill on thu 15 jan 04
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 09:36:19AM -0500 or thereabouts, william schran wrote:
> I don't think you could find a much better source than "Mastering
> Glazes" and as a companion John Hesselberth's "GlazeMaster" data base
Who wrote Mastering Glazes? I couldn't find it on amazon...
Nana
Ababi on fri 16 jan 04
Who wrote Mastering Glazes? I couldn't find it on amazon...
Nana
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Please tell me if you find I wonder too.
Ababi
By the way not everything in Amazon John and Ron a re blessed for their
contribution!
Try:
http://www.masteringglazes.com/
william schran on fri 16 jan 04
Nana wrote:>Who wrote Mastering Glazes? I couldn't find it on amazon...<
You won't find it anywhere but John's web site. Do a Google search
for Frog Pond Pottery or search back for my original response where I
inserted the link.
Bill
Susan Cline on fri 16 jan 04
Authors are Clayart's own John Hesselberth and Ron Roy. Book is available at John's website: http://www.masteringglazes.com
It's worth every penny.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nana Underhill
Sent: Jan 15, 2004 3:38 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Advise for Starting out in glaze composition
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 09:36:19AM -0500 or thereabouts, william schran wrote:
> I don't think you could find a much better source than "Mastering
> Glazes" and as a companion John Hesselberth's "GlazeMaster" data base
Who wrote Mastering Glazes? I couldn't find it on amazon...
Nana
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lela martens on fri 16 jan 04
`Mastering Cone 6 Glazes` was written by John Hesselberth and Ron Roy.
As well, a good one is `Glazes Cone 6` by Michael Bailey.
Lela
>From: Nana Underhill
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>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Advise for Starting out in glaze composition
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:38:50 -0500
>
>On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 09:36:19AM -0500 or thereabouts, william schran
>wrote:
>
> > I don't think you could find a much better source than "Mastering
> > Glazes" and as a companion John Hesselberth's "GlazeMaster" data base
>
>Who wrote Mastering Glazes? I couldn't find it on amazon...
>
>Nana
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John Hesselberth on fri 16 jan 04
Hi Bill and everyone,
I is also available from about 55 pottery supply dealers across North
America and elsewhere. We specifically limited our marketing to support
the pottery community. You won't find it on amazon or in any big box
stores. But folks like The Potter's Shop and Axner (to name 2 who are
regular participants in Clayart) carry it--your favorite pottery supply
dealer probably does too. We have remarkably good success getting the
dealer network to carry it.
Regards, John
On Friday, January 16, 2004, at 09:58 AM, william schran wrote:
> Nana wrote:>Who wrote Mastering Glazes? I couldn't find it on
> amazon...<
>
> You won't find it anywhere but John's web site. Do a Google search
> for Frog Pond Pottery or search back for my original response where I
> inserted the link.
http://www.frogpondpottery.com
http://www.masteringglazes.com
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