bfine on sat 17 jan 04
Hi Earl,
Thanks for the sites. Way too cool! If DNA proves rocks and
living beings are related
then maybe there is a case for the connection between
mathematicians, artists and
craftspeople.
Thanks again for the sites. Really needs some exploring Have
you read Wolfram's
book?
Brooke Fine
Dallas, Texas
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:05:56 -0800
From: Earl Krueger
Subject: More mathematical art
Brooke,
If you liked that try these: ( some are VERY large
downloads)
I (sorta) made one of these out of clay but never fired it.
http://www.iam.uni-bonn.de/grape/EXAMPLES/AMANDUS/costa.html
http://emsh.calarts.edu/~mathart/portfolio/
SPD_Costa_port_detail.html#costa1_cgi
Or, how about snow?
http://www.wolfram.com/news/snowsculpture2000.html
http://www.wolfram.com/news/snowsculpture.html
But if you want permanent, try stone. (My favorites)
http://www.helasculpt.com/
Hope you enjoy.
Earl...
Bothell, WA, USA
Rikki Gill on sun 18 jan 04
To me, the connection between art and mathematics is abstract thought. Both
disciplines require the ability to abstract ideas in order to deal with them
on another level. Certainly that is obvious in music, another art form.
The list can go on and on.
Rikki in Berkeley
rikigil@cwnet.com
www.rikkigillceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "bfine"
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:31 AM
Subject: mathematics and art
> Hi Earl,
> Thanks for the sites. Way too cool! If DNA proves rocks and
> living beings are related
> then maybe there is a case for the connection between
> mathematicians, artists and
> craftspeople.
> Thanks again for the sites. Really needs some exploring Have
> you read Wolfram's
> book?
> Brooke Fine
> Dallas, Texas
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:05:56 -0800
> From: Earl Krueger
> Subject: More mathematical art
>
> Brooke,
>
> If you liked that try these: ( some are VERY large
> downloads)
>
> I (sorta) made one of these out of clay but never fired it.
> http://www.iam.uni-bonn.de/grape/EXAMPLES/AMANDUS/costa.html
>
> http://emsh.calarts.edu/~mathart/portfolio/
> SPD_Costa_port_detail.html#costa1_cgi
>
> Or, how about snow?
> http://www.wolfram.com/news/snowsculpture2000.html
> http://www.wolfram.com/news/snowsculpture.html
>
> But if you want permanent, try stone. (My favorites)
> http://www.helasculpt.com/
>
> Hope you enjoy.
>
> Earl...
> Bothell, WA, USA
>
>
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Krista Peterson on sun 18 jan 04
> If DNA proves rocks and
>living beings are related
>then maybe there is a case for the connection between
>mathematicians, artists and
>craftspeople.
Math is just a different way of expressing the same thing, like another language. We, as artists, describe a line like this ___ , | , or /. Mathmaticians describe a line like this, y=b , x=a , y=mx+b , respectively.Math can make pretty pictures as well as make a right brainer insane. All the disciplines are related one way or another, there is an "art" to everything, medicine, law, science, politics, business(Andy Warhol was great at making business an art). It's really too bad that most people can't see that. Just because they "can't even draw a stick figure" doesn't mean they don't have the capacity for art. A part of the brain is devoted to art and symbolism, everyone has it unless they have some sort of brain damage in that area.
Just off on a tangent this fine Sunday morning!
Krista Peterson
.
Earl Krueger on mon 19 jan 04
On Sunday, Jan 18, 2004, at 13:27 US/Pacific, Rikki Gill wrote:
> To me, the connection between art and mathematics is abstract thought.
Yes, I can see your point. Especially if you view the primary function
of art as making a statement.
However, to me, much of the beauty of mathematics lies in the fact that
seemingly simple equations, when materialized, produce such sensuous
shapes. Take the equation y=x2 (x squared) for example. Plot this out
in 2D and this simple 4 character equation results in an ever-changing
parabolic curve reaching out to infinity. Transform to 3D by rotating
around the vertical axis and you have a quite lovely pot that most
anyone could throw on a wheel (except for the infinity part).
So, maybe we are saying the same thing after all.
I can't remember where I saw it but somebody once did a mathematical
analysis of Mona Lisa's smile. I wonder what the complete set of
equations would be from an analysis of Michelangelo's "David"?
Earl...
Bothell, WA, USA
Rikki Gill on mon 19 jan 04
Interesting.
I think what I meant was the ability to see beyond the limits, to the
essence, and change the expression. This is an ability shared by artists,
[certainly abstract artists] and mathematicians in particular, although
everyone does it to an extent.
So, maybe we are saying much the same thing.
Thanks, Rikki
rikigil@cwnet.com
www.rikkigillceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Krueger"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: mathematics and art
> On Sunday, Jan 18, 2004, at 13:27 US/Pacific, Rikki Gill wrote:
>
> > To me, the connection between art and mathematics is abstract thought.
>
> Yes, I can see your point. Especially if you view the primary function
> of art as making a statement.
>
> However, to me, much of the beauty of mathematics lies in the fact that
> seemingly simple equations, when materialized, produce such sensuous
> shapes. Take the equation y=x2 (x squared) for example. Plot this out
> in 2D and this simple 4 character equation results in an ever-changing
> parabolic curve reaching out to infinity. Transform to 3D by rotating
> around the vertical axis and you have a quite lovely pot that most
> anyone could throw on a wheel (except for the infinity part).
>
> So, maybe we are saying the same thing after all.
>
> I can't remember where I saw it but somebody once did a mathematical
> analysis of Mona Lisa's smile. I wonder what the complete set of
> equations would be from an analysis of Michelangelo's "David"?
>
> Earl...
> Bothell, WA, USA
>
>
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Linda R Hughes on mon 19 jan 04
Hi,=20
Interested in the math/art connection? Dartmouth has an interesting =
site.It is the site for a class presented there, Pattern. It has =
corresponding parts(Math part, Art Part) for 8 lessons:=20
www.darmouth.edu/~matc/math5.pattern/pattern.html=20
Enjoy, Linda
Linda R. Hughes
mamahug@comcast.net
John Sankey on thu 8 nov 07
Mel: "No matter what the tools or math says, as an artist, we
must be aware of our god given talent to know what is level, in
balance....it is what we observe."
The first thing I used a computer for (1956, the first FORTRAN)
was to design a coffee table in the form of a hypercircle:
x^e+(y*phi)^e=r^e
It looked like a lump.
It sat in my livingroom for a few months. Whenever I asked people
if they liked it, the commonest, desperately-polite answer was,
"unusual". I cut it down to a rectangle I liked the look of and
kept math away from my art (music) from then on. One of the best
music lessons I ever had.
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