Ann Brink on wed 21 jan 04
John- here is the recipe for Touchtone Red ( I got it from Rebecca Varner)
and I LOVE this glaze! It is a ^6 glaze. It can be really red (iron red)
but if applied thinner, will be navy or khaki. It is great on carving and
on chattered surfaces, etc. I think it is similar to Randy's Red. On top
rims you get that iron-gold almost crystal look.
Gerstley Borate 31
Flint 30
Feldspar 20 (I used Kingman)
Talc 14
EPK 5
Add RIO 15
Last time I made a batch, I glazed with it immediately and the pots were
almost brownish, and I was afraid the batch was different because I used a
different RIO. But after a few weeks, it looked as good as ever, so I'm
thinking a little aging of the glaze is good for this one.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: Glaze Request - Randy's Red, Oxblood, Falls Creek Shino
> Cone 6 Ox - Randy's Red, Oxblood, Falls Creek Shino
>
> I have been searching around in the archives and my reading on these
> is they are problematic at best.
>
> Just wondering if anyone has variations that are dependable they might
> be willing to share??
>
> Comments are invited!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Rodgers
John Rodgers on wed 21 jan 04
Cone 6 Ox - Randy's Red, Oxblood, Falls Creek Shino
I have been searching around in the archives and my reading on these
is they are problematic at best.
Just wondering if anyone has variations that are dependable they might
be willing to share??
Comments are invited!!
Thanks,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Carol Tripp on thu 22 jan 04
Hi John,
Randy's Red - mine looked like dried blood - icky. Oxblood was brown -
another one. Falls Creek Shino had a flesh coloured look that I disliked.
So, where does that leave us? Are you looking for an Iron Red? Is so, here
are two:
PERSIMMON ^6ox
46 gerstley borate
22.5 EPK
29.5 Silica
2 Soda Ash
11% red iron oxide
Caveats: this needs to be refired to ^06-^05 to make it iron red
I have tried every which way to sub out the GB and I never managed to do it
This glaze runs and I have tried to stop that without success so beware;
either use only a thin coat near the base of the pot or glaze the bottom
third with another glaze
Still want to try it? I can get a deep deep sparkly red with it.
BERRY RUST ^6 ox (my revision of Craig Martell's revision)
26 silica
27 epk (I use 13 epk and 12 calcined epk)
7 neph syenite
9 bone ash
13 talc
18 fusion frit 12 or Ferro Frit 3134
12 % red iron oxide
This glaze also likes a refire to ^06-05 but that is not strictly necessary
as it is pretty nice at first glost. It doesn't run like Persimmon. It has
more of an orangey rust red color than Persimmon. Berry Rust likes texture
and when it comes up to Tenmoku Gold, you get bright red crystals if you are
lucky.
Heard enough? You also need to have a really red RIO (thanks Paul Lewing)
to produce iron reds. I buy my spanish RIO from Bailey's. Slow cooling is
needed too, as is normal for all iron reds.
As for Falls Creek Shino, ask Ababi. He did lots of work with this one.
Best regards,
Carol
Dubai, UAE
John R wrote:
>Cone 6 Ox - Randy's Red, Oxblood, Falls Creek Shino
>
>I have been searching around in the archives and my reading on these
>is they are problematic at best.
>
>Just wondering if anyone has variations that are dependable they might
>be willing to share??
>
>
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Ann Brink on thu 22 jan 04
Hi Wayne, (in reply to your questions below, regarding a Touchtone Red ^6
recipe, similiar to Randy's Red):
How can a glaze be all those colors:...I wouldn't have believed it if I
hadn't seen it. That's why I love this glaze. If you want a guaranteed
solid color all over, don't bother with this glaze. Thickness of
application seems to be the main determining factor. I have had bowls that
were very dark navy with red in the throwing rings, etc, on the outside, and
strong red with some shading to khaki inside. Sometimes especially red
inside a vase or pitcher- I think the heat is retained longer on the
interior of those shapes=slow cooling.
I have tried refiring to ^06, and it brings out the red, but somehow the
liveliness is gone.
Happy testing,
Ann Brink in Lompoc
----- Original Message -----
From: "wayneinkeywest"
> Discussions like the one above are starting to make me crazy.
> How can a glaze be red AND Navy (blue) AND Khaki?
> (No offense meant, Ann.)
> I realize there are differences because of claybody, and
> application thickness, and because of this there may
> be a change where a glaze "breaks" but...
> assuming the same clay body each time,
> wouldn't varying the thickness simply result in a lighter
> or darker tone in the same color spectrum?
> I mean, we're talking a shift from red to blue to green!
>
> Are we supposed to muck around with a "recipe" until we get
> something (hopefully) that we like, and pray we can repeat it?
>
> Wayne Seidl
wayneinkeywest on thu 22 jan 04
> John- here is the recipe for Touchtone Red ( I got it from Rebecca Varner)
> and I LOVE this glaze! It is a ^6 glaze. It can be really red (iron red)
> but if applied thinner, will be navy or khaki. It is great on carving and
> on chattered surfaces, etc. I think it is similar to Randy's Red. On top
> rims you get that iron-gold almost crystal look.
Ok, newbie question. Start eye rolling here .
Discussions like the one above are starting to make me crazy.
How can a glaze be red AND Navy (blue) AND Khaki?
(No offense meant, Ann.)
I realize there are differences because of claybody, and
application thickness, and because of this there may
be a change where a glaze "breaks" but...
assuming the same clay body each time,
wouldn't varying the thickness simply result in a lighter
or darker tone in the same color spectrum?
I mean, we're talking a shift from red to blue to green!
Are we supposed to muck around with a "recipe" until we get
something (hopefully) that we like, and pray we can repeat it?
Wayne Seidl
Linda Pahl on thu 22 jan 04
> Cone 6 Ox - Randy's Red, Oxblood, Falls Creek Shino
>
> I have been searching around in the archives and my reading on these
> is they are problematic at best.
>
> Just wondering if anyone has variations that are dependable they might
> be willing to share??
>
> John Rodgers
> Chelsea, AL
Hi, John.
I haven't used the other recipes having found Randy's Red to dependably
come out a rich variegated brick read:
1. Use the reddest red iron oxide your supplier stocks.
2. Mix the raw glaze to the consistency of heavy cream.
3. Apply heavily (heavily!).
4. Slow cool your kiln.
Randy's Red
^6 ox.
30, Gerstley Borate
15, talc
20, F-4 Feldspar
5. epk
30, flint
100.00 %
Also add:
15, red iron oxide
Hope this works for you too.
Regards,
Linda Pahl, Kew Gardens, New York
TheClosetPotter@earthlink.net
(I throw on my wheel in my hall closet; the only possible solution in
this tiny apartment!)
http://home.earthlink.net/~jessieadair/tests/
John Rodgers on thu 22 jan 04
This glaze I suspect is approaching the point of being an iron saturate
glaze. If so, it will go blue, from what I understand about ISG's. I'm
going to play with it and see.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
wayneinkeywest wrote:
>>John- here is the recipe for Touchtone Red ( I got it from Rebecca Varner)
>>and I LOVE this glaze! It is a ^6 glaze. It can be really red (iron red)
>>but if applied thinner, will be navy or khaki. It is great on carving and
>>on chattered surfaces, etc. I think it is similar to Randy's Red. On top
>>rims you get that iron-gold almost crystal look.
>>
>>
>
>Ok, newbie question. Start eye rolling here .
>
>Discussions like the one above are starting to make me crazy.
>How can a glaze be red AND Navy (blue) AND Khaki?
>(No offense meant, Ann.)
>I realize there are differences because of claybody, and
>application thickness, and because of this there may
>be a change where a glaze "breaks" but...
>assuming the same clay body each time,
>wouldn't varying the thickness simply result in a lighter
>or darker tone in the same color spectrum?
>I mean, we're talking a shift from red to blue to green!
>
>Are we supposed to muck around with a "recipe" until we get
>something (hopefully) that we like, and pray we can repeat it?
>
>Wayne Seidl
>
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