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how many different clay bodies?

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Paul Herman on wed 21 jan 04


Linda,

I use six right now, to take advantage of different places in the
woodkiln.

Only one kind of clay is worked at a time, and scrap is collected in
labeled buckets. I'm not very fussy about it though, a little cross
mixing is ok. With Porcelain I try harder to keep it clean.

Best,

Paul Herman
Great Basin Pottery
Doyle, California US
http://www.greatbasinpottery.com/

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>From: Linda Pahl
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: How Many Different Clay Bodies?
>Date: Wed, Jan 21, 2004, 1:48 AM
>

> I was curious as to just how many different clay bodies some of you
> use? How do you keep track of the recycling?
>
> Regards,
>
> Linda Pahl,

Linda Pahl on wed 21 jan 04


Hi all.

I have a wonderful studio mate who uses at least eight different clay
bodies and since a few of them are iron-rich bodies and look identical
at leather *and* bisque, there has been a few pieces with the body of
one clay and the handle of another (*not* intentional). This seems a
bit complicated to keep track of them all and the recycling is a
nightmare but to each their own.

I have been using a single groggy iron-rich clay body and will soon be
adding a white stoneware for a brighter effect from glazes. That's
about all I have the time or energy to handle. Am I missing out on
something here?

I was curious as to just how many different clay bodies some of you
use? How do you keep track of the recycling?

Regards,

Linda Pahl, Kew Gardens, New York
TheClosetPotter@earthlink.net
(I throw on my wheel in my hall closet; the only possible solution in
this tiny apartment!)

http://home.earthlink.net/~jessieadair/tests/

daniel on wed 21 jan 04


Hi Linda,

My own approach - and it seems that in ceramics every person has their way
of doing it - certainly if the wedging thread is anything to go by - is to
divide between dark and light recycle. I'll try to throw almost anything but
generally use Soldate 60 (grey stoneware when wet), Geostone (grey when wet
but fire white - no grog), or Mac White (white stoneware), sometimes Black
Mountain (chocolate brown - coll clay - stains your clothes :(), Cinnamon or
811 Red - red firing bodies - very cool under clear raku crackle, and
recently porcelains. Some of these I have not used in a while but they are
still showing up in the recycle I'm sure. So I throw the white stonewares in
one bucket, the porcelains in another and the rest in another.

I use my recycle clay for play, new forms and so on and new clay for best.
Of course as luck would have it best is not always what one thinks it will
be at the outset.

Interestingly I have had some wonderful (and of course) unreproducible
effects with glazes on the dark stoneware (DSR) recycle. No idea what its
composition is though.

Just what I do.

Thanx
D

> Hi all.
>
> I have a wonderful studio mate who uses at least eight different clay
> bodies and since a few of them are iron-rich bodies and look identical
> at leather *and* bisque, there has been a few pieces with the body of
> one clay and the handle of another (*not* intentional). This seems a
> bit complicated to keep track of them all and the recycling is a
> nightmare but to each their own.
>
> I have been using a single groggy iron-rich clay body and will soon be
> adding a white stoneware for a brighter effect from glazes. That's
> about all I have the time or energy to handle. Am I missing out on
> something here?
>
> I was curious as to just how many different clay bodies some of you
> use? How do you keep track of the recycling?
>
> Regards,
>
> Linda Pahl, Kew Gardens, New York
> TheClosetPotter@earthlink.net
> (I throw on my wheel in my hall closet; the only possible solution in
> this tiny apartment!)
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~jessieadair/tests/
>
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Carol Tripp on thu 22 jan 04


Hi Linda

I have three different clays going in my small bathroom studio; Mid-Red,
Smooth White, MCS Porcelain - all ^6 Tuckers. I also mix the Mid-Red with
the Smooth White for a Blend - just to keep things easy;-) I like each of
these four clays for different reasons.

How to organize this mess? I work with only one at a time. Obviously, the
clays with iron content (Mid-Red and the Blend) have to be used seperately
from the whites. A few months ago, I switched from the irons to the whites;
this meant changing the wedging board, recycling every last scrap and drop
of clay and packing the wedged blocks away in CLEARLY labeled bags. (They
will be lovely to throw with when I get back to them.) I cleaned up well
and started in on the white stoneware clay. When I get ready to go back to
the irons, I will spend some time throwing the Mid Red and the Smooth White
together to make swirly pots. This leads into the use of the Blend or
Mid-Red and I don't have to do the total clean up until the next time I
switch. (I change the wedging board back too.) Those with large studios to
work in can be much more easy-going but those of us working in small spaces
have to keep it neat.

I do wish I could keep a grip on myself and use just one clay or two at the
most... but I've got it, so I'll use it;-)

best regards,
Carol
Dubai, UAE



Linda wrote, in part,
>I have been using a single groggy iron-rich clay body and will soon be
>adding a white stoneware for a brighter effect from glazes. That's
>about all I have the time or energy to handle. Am I missing out on
>something here?

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mudslingers@ATT.NET on thu 22 jan 04


linda wrote:
>I was curious as to just how many different
>clay bodies some of you use? How do you
>keep track of the recycling?

hi linda,
in my studio i have, at the moment, the following
stonewares (not to mention a couple of earthenwares & raku):
3 whites, 1 speckled, 2 reds, 2 warm browns, 1 dk
brown, 1 salmon. my opinion? TOO MUCH!! and i don't
recommend it! sometimes i get carried away and the
"experimenting" never ends...

i have decided --from now on-- to only buy/use half
of the above list:
1 white for ^10 reduction;
1 white and 1 salmon for both pit firing and ^6 ox;
1 speckled and 1 warm brown for ^6.

regarding tracking and recycling:
this is going to sound involved, but it's
really not that bad. the key is to LABEL
EVERYTHING! i realize you don't have the room,
but this is what i do: i have lots of 5 gal. buckets
and label them with the clay code. i ALSO write
the clay code on the clay bag (because the bag
is not always in the bucket)! when i am going to
make alot with the same clay body, i catch all
the slurry in a "temporary" bucket and save all
the trimmings and recycle them together. i label
the temporary bucket and let it dry out to the
point where i can pour it on a plaster slab
without it running off the egdes. i let it dry
on the slab to wedging consistency and put it
back in it's permanent storage bucket.

if i'm going to be using several clays over
a short period of time (not enough of any one
in particular to recycle individually), they
all go into the same recycle bucket labeled, aptly
enough, "bucket" clay. i use this clay
mostly for handbuilding. i don't have alot of
space, but somehow there's always been room for
one more bucket (clay or glaze!).

however, since you're in a closet, maybe just
using the bags and not buckets would work better
and stick to the 1 or 2 types of clay like you
have been. to answer your question: "Am I missing
out on something here?". only that "claustrophobic"
feeling!

all the best,
lauren

--
Mudslingers Pottery, Lauren Bellero
http://mudslingers.home.att.net
39 Leroy Place, Red Bank, NJ 07701
732.747.4853

Brian Haviland on thu 22 jan 04


>
>
>if i'm going to be using several clays over
>a short period of time (not enough of any one
>in particular to recycle individually), they
>all go into the same recycle bucket labeled, aptly
>enough, "bucket" clay. i use this clay
>mostly for handbuilding. i don't have alot of
>space, but somehow there's always been room for
>one more bucket (clay or glaze!).
>
>
>all the best,
>lauren
Hi Lauren
I was wondering....do you fire this mix to ^ 6 or ^10. I do the same thing
but figured
this mix was no worth trying to use except in a horse shoe pit.. I have
about 3 - 5 gal
pails of this mix that i could wedge and use.

Brian Haviland



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>732.747.4853
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mudslingers@ATT.NET on fri 23 jan 04


brian wrote:
>
> Hi Lauren
>I was wondering....do you fire this mix to ^ 6 or ^10.
>I do the same thing but figured this mix was no worth
>trying to use except in a horse shoe pit.. I have
>about 3 - 5 gal pails of this mix that i could wedge and use.
>
> Brian Haviland

hi brian,

since the bulk of the mix of recycled clay is in the
^6 range, i would only fire to 6, never ^10.
never had a problem.

--
Mudslingers Pottery, Lauren Bellero
http://mudslingers.home.att.net
39 Leroy Place, Red Bank, NJ 07701
732.747.4853