mark knott on fri 23 jan 04
i'm wondering about building a web site and am wondering if people can =
post their web site so i and others can look at them to get ideas of =
what works and what has not worked for the posting artist. thanks mark =
knott
logan johnson on sat 24 jan 04
Hi Mark,
First, good luck with your web site! Next, look down at peoples signatures at the bottom of the posts. A lot of folks put their web sites there. Here's my new website. My hubby
& the WONDERFULL folks on clayart put this one together for me.
www.audeostudios.com Don't know how much help it'll be but hope it gives you something!
mark knott wrote:
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Maurice Weitman on sat 24 jan 04
At 8:46 PM -0500 on 1/23/04, mark knot wrote:
>i'm wondering about building a web site and am wondering if people
>can post their web site so i and others can look at them to get
>ideas of what works and what has not worked for the posting artist.
>thanks mark knott
Mark,
Helen Bates has been going through the trouble of maintaining a web
site (with Bill Amsterlaw) with just that information on it:
contains over 600 links to
clayart members' web pages. It was last updated just four days ago.
I would encourage you to use that, and I would also encourage other
clayart members with web pages to send their info to Helen (details
on that site) to keep this wonderful resource relevant and complete
for us all.
Thanks, Helen, for all your work.
Regards,
Maurice
SusanRaku@AOL.COM on sun 25 jan 04
I am also interested in building a website and would appreciate any insite on
this.
Susan
logan johnson on mon 26 jan 04
Susan,
I did it the quick and easy way and I am no expert on building websites. I am using Yahoo as the host and their web building software (sitebuilder 2.0). It is cheap and easy and they handle getting the domain for you. As I recall it's about $50 to get up and running and less than $20/mo. for the site. It took me about two days to get the initial site up and I've been putzing with it ever since.
One thing that will help you is that you can download sitebuilder 2.0 free from Yahoo and build your site before you "publish" it to an actual web site. The software also has an instruction book that you can download for free and a good help menu. Sitebuilder is similar to MS Frontpage in function and I simply used it because it was from Yahoo and Yahoo was hosting Logan's site. It seems to display well in both Netscape and IE.
Yahoo does give good tech support for your web site. I've only called them once (about a 2 minute wait for a person) and they helped with all of my questions.
What you will find is that just getting the site up in the first goal and then you can improve it daily if you choose. I know that now when I look at a site I note things that I would like to incorporate in Logan's site. A new neverending task. :-)
Email me personally at if you need specific advice and of course check out Logan's site.
Dennis (Logan's Husband)
SusanRaku@AOL.COM wrote:
I am also interested in building a website and would appreciate any insite on
this.
Susan
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Russel Fouts on mon 26 jan 04
mark.
>> i'm wondering about building a web site and am wondering if people can post their web site so i and others can look at them to get ideas of
what works and what has not worked for the posting artist. <<
You can go to my site below and see how things can be done simply. Also
click on my Potter's Portal link and you can look at a LOT of other
(probably most) Clayart potters. There is also a section for just
ordinary potters that has MANY, MANY links as well.
I've just updated the Potters Portal, still over 3000 pottery related
links.
Russel
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daniel on tue 27 jan 04
Hi ya,
I posted a note about this a day or so ago and it seems to have vanished.
Anyhow, hope this is not a repeat.
I have noticed a bunch of sites for review lately. So there is much
interest. I think I saw a post on here recently of someone who would be
willing to work on developing sites for people. Can't remember who I'm
afraid.
I wrote my site a while back from scratch just using a text editor.
http://www.clayosmos.com. I am now re-writing it almost from scratch. Why ?
My first site which is still visible is pretty much completely devoid of
text. Its almost invisible to search engines and so noone can find me.
Further I want to start putting up information pages and note and glaze test
results and so on. Third, its not standards compliant. So I'm revamping it -
currently most (not all) of my site is compliant with HTML 4.01. If you want
to know about standards - mail me offline unless there's interest on
clayart. Its a big subject in itself and its certainly not essential.
As to what works - one of the best I've seen from a design point of view is
Paul Herman's - beautiful site in a modern browser viz NS 6+ IE 5.5+, Safari
etc. Breaks a little in NS 4.x but I don't consider that a big issue. On
sites generally UI is a big problem. Study sites and see what you like.
There are many options. My own is an attempt at minimalism. Its not great
and I'll completely change it in the next version. The way you display your
pots in a gallery and how the thumbnails are used and so on are worth
considerable thought. I went nuts on this in my first site and in some
senses will go further on my second. Check under the sales link on my site
and look at the BHC Holiday sale link in December - I'm refining the
scrolling stuff. Some people like it, some hate it. I'm trying to make it
work better.
Ok enough said. Once the current revamp is done I intend to post an article
on what I tried and so on when I'm done. Incidentally there was a site
NewArtPottery where they had an explanation of the basics of how to do this.
You might check it out. http://www.newartpottery.com/
I'll post my new site in a few weeks.
Feel free to mail me offline to discuss this more if you like.
Thanx
Daniel
Ralph Naylor on tue 27 jan 04
Guess I'm a day late on this (waaay more than a dollar short too). I don't
know what works for potters specifically, but I do know what works globally
- simplicity and speed. Keep it simple, no flashing animated graphics, no
confusing background, NO MUSIC (at least half of your visitors will be
surfing from work) and make sure users can navigate easily. You
probably are itching to start building a web page using the software du
jour, but what you need to do is get some paper and sketch out what you
want to do. Then you can get some bigger paper and sketch how it all fits
together. Maybe even invest in a Crayola 64 color set. Once you know
what you want, there are plenty of ways to write it, and you can get plenty of
suggestions and help, but the most important thing is having a clear vision
of where you want to go. Clayarter Wendy Peck hasn't chimed in, but you
can get a lot of nuts-and-bolts (and esthetics) from her sites :
http://webreference.com/graphics/
http:www.wendypeck.com
Oh, and don't forget - although the web site's in cyberspace, your viewers
are in meatspace - make sure your phone number and address are easy to
find. End of rant ;-)
Best regards,
Ralph in NH
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