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Bob Santerre on tue 27 jan 04


I'm hoping someone can remember and help me.

Sometime last year someone on Clayart wrote about a commercially
available "softbox" or some sort of "box" that one uses to photograph
pots or other 3-D work with. As I vaguely recall it wasn't a
conventional lightbox, but a "box" that you sat on a table, placed your
pot in it and maybe had a hole on one end that the camera lense shot
through. I may not have that description exactly right.

I've searched the archives fairly well, but can't seem to find the
message. Hopefully someone with a good memory can direct me to it.

Bob
rfsanterre@gwi.net

Arnold Howard on wed 28 jan 04


From: "Bob Santerre"
> Sometime last year someone on Clayart wrote about a commercially
> available "softbox" or some sort of "box" that one uses to photograph
> pots or other 3-D work with. As I vaguely recall it wasn't a
> conventional lightbox, but a "box" that you sat on a table, placed your
> pot in it and maybe had a hole on one end that the camera lense shot
> through.

Bob, you've described a light tent. A softbox is different. A softbox
creates diffused light with soft shadows. A softbox is easy to make. I use
one at Paragon that I made years ago.

A light tent, on the other hand, surrounds an object with white translucent
plastic. This is designed for reflective objects such as stainless steel.
You would place lights on the outside of the light tent and the object to be
photographed inside the tent.

For either a light tent or a softbox, you need a roll of translucent
plastic. The brand I use is Translume, available from photography stores. It
lasts about 10 years before it becomes brittle. You could also use a roll of
plastic overlay used in drafting.

You can also staple Translume to a wooden frame. Then position the frame
between the light and the object you are photographing. I use C-clamps to
hold the frame in place.

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P.
arnoldhoward@att.net

Cindy Gatto on wed 28 jan 04


Hi All:
Concerning thins softbox. We recently purchased one and all I can say is
it is fantastic. It is a softbox made from the round light diffusers that
photographers use. They go together to form a box and it has a piece that Velcro's
to the front that has a slit in it to put your camera in. You put lights
around the box and you wind up with no glares at all. Taking pictures of our work
has been a nemesis for us as we are not professional photographers. Since we
have got this light box our pictures have been 100% better. I recommend it to
anyone. I forget where we got it or the correct name for it but if anyone is
interested contact us and I will be glad to look in our records and find out the
information for you.
Thanks:


Cindy & Mark
The Mudpit
228 Manhattan Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11206
718-218-9424
mudpitnyc@aol.com
www.mudpitnyc.com

Russel Fouts on fri 30 jan 04


Cindy

Yes, please! Post it to the list.

This sound similar to one I've seen from Lastolite that folds up reeally
small for storage.

>> Concerning thins softbox. We recently purchased one and all I can say
is it is fantastic. It is a softbox made from the round light diffusers
that photographers use. They go together to form a box and it has a piece
that Velcro's to the front that has a slit in it to put your camera in. You
put lights around the box and you wind up with no glares at all. Taking
pictures of our work has been a nemesis for us as we are not professional
photographers. Since we have got this light box our pictures have been 100%
better. I recommend it to anyone. I forget where we got it or the correct
name for it but if anyone is
interested contact us and I will be glad to look in our records and find
out the information for you.<<

Russel



Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75

Http://www.mypots.com
Home of "The Potters Portal"
Over 2300 Pottery Related Links!
Updated frequently

My work can also be seen on:
The World Crafts Council International Site: http://www.wccwis.gr
The World Crafts Council Belgium Site: http://wcc-bf.org (English Pages)
EasyCraft: http://www.easycraft.org

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public." --U.S. President (and Nobel Peace Prize winner) Theodore
Roosevelt.

Bob Santerre on fri 30 jan 04


Russel, that's what I found also. The "box" or "tent" is called the
Cubelite, made by Lastolite. Comes in various sizes up to a 4 ft cube
made of cloth-like translucent sheets attached to a collapsible frame.
Supposed to be ideal for shooting items with high gloss. In the US the
best prices I found were from B+H Photo, www.bhphotovideo.com.

Bob

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Russel Fouts wrote:

> Cindy
>
> Yes, please! Post it to the list.
>
> This sound similar to one I've seen from Lastolite that folds up reeally
> small for storage.
>
> >> Concerning thins softbox. We recently purchased one and all I can say
> is it is fantastic. It is a softbox made from the round light diffusers
> that photographers use. They go together to form a box and it has a piece
> that Velcro's to the front that has a slit in it to put your camera
> in. You
> put lights around the box and you wind up with no glares at all. Taking
> pictures of our work has been a nemesis for us as we are not professional
> photographers. Since we have got this light box our pictures have been
> 100%
> better. I recommend it to anyone. I forget where we got it or the correct
> name for it but if anyone is
> interested contact us and I will be glad to look in our records and find
> out the information for you.<<
>
> Russel
>
>
>
> Russel Fouts
> Mes Potes & Mes Pots
> Brussels, Belgium
> Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
> Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
>
> Http://www.mypots.com
> Home of "The Potters Portal"
> Over 2300 Pottery Related Links!
> Updated frequently
>
> My work can also be seen on:
> The World Crafts Council International Site: http://www.wccwis.gr
> The World Crafts Council Belgium Site: http://wcc-bf.org (English Pages)
> EasyCraft: http://www.easycraft.org
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
> we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only
> unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
> public." --U.S. President (and Nobel Peace Prize winner) Theodore
> Roosevelt.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
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>
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> melpots@pclink.com.
>
>

Angela Davis on fri 30 jan 04


Hello Bob,
I too am interested in doing my own photography,
I found this site which explains how to build the light box or tent.
I think I'll try the tent style and use non woven Pellon interfacing fabric.
It
is about $2 a yard at Wally World. I liked their cheap lighting idea too.

http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/19002.html

Angela Davis


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Santerre"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:13 PM
Subject: photography-softbox


> I'm hoping someone can remember and help me.
>
> Sometime last year someone on Clayart wrote about a commercially
> available "softbox" or some sort of "box" that one uses to photograph
> pots or other 3-D work with. As I vaguely recall it wasn't a
> conventional lightbox, but a "box" that you sat on a table, placed your
> pot in it and maybe had a hole on one end that the camera lense shot
> through. I may not have that description exactly right.
>
> I've searched the archives fairly well, but can't seem to find the
> message. Hopefully someone with a good memory can direct me to it.
>
> Bob
> rfsanterre@gwi.net
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
__
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.

tenet on sat 31 jan 04


If you can find white rip-stop nylon--that works great. Commerically made
light boxes and diffusers are made with this material. I find mine at a
cloth/sewing store. You can also use black rip-stop to make panels where
you don't want light to pass through. I have found the black with a silver
side--this can be used as a reflector. I believe the Porters Photography
carries the stuff. Try an internet search for them.

To make the frame--use PVC pipe.

Hope this helps.

Phil Davenport
Garland, Texas



----- Original Message -----
From: "Angela Davis"
To:
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: photography-softbox


> Hello Bob,
> I too am interested in doing my own photography,
> I found this site which explains how to build the light box or tent.
> I think I'll try the tent style and use non woven Pellon interfacing
fabric.
> It
> is about $2 a yard at Wally World. I liked their cheap lighting idea too.

Russel Fouts on sun 1 feb 04


Bob

>> Russel, that's what I found also. The "box" or "tent" is called the
Cubelite, made by Lastolite. Comes in various sizes up to a 4 ft cube
made of cloth-like translucent sheets attached to a collapsible frame.
Supposed to be ideal for shooting items with high gloss. In the US the
best prices I found were from B+H Photo, www.bhphotovideo.com. <<

It's on offer in the UK from Calumet. The UK (for some reason) is part
of the EU which means that I don't pay customs.

How would you use it with a backdrop?

Lastolite also has the same thing as a tent but much cheaper. It's
called the Lite Tent but I really can't figure out how you'd use it with
a backdrop. I think the tents are meant for smaller stuff.

Russel

--
Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75

Http://www.mypots.com
Home of "The Potters Portal"
Over 1800 Pottery Links!
Updated frequently

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president,
or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."

U.S. President (and Nobel Peace Prize winner) Theodore Roosevelt.

Jeanette Harris on sun 1 feb 04


Gee, maybe you could check out the quilt shops--they have
snap-together pipe frames for lap quilting. You could just snap the
fabric into one of those and it should work. Probably have to beef
up the edges so that the frame would grip, but that could be done.
Thrift shops probably have the old round wooden frames that are like
large embroidery frames.

>If you can find white rip-stop nylon--that works great. Commerically made
>light boxes and diffusers are made with this material. I find mine at a
>cloth/sewing store. You can also use black rip-stop to make panels where
>you don't want light to pass through. I have found the black with a silver
>side--this can be used as a reflector. I believe the Porters Photography
>carries the stuff. Try an internet search for them.
>
>To make the frame--use PVC pipe.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Phil Davenport
>Garland, Texas

Bob Santerre on mon 2 feb 04


Russel,

The 4ft Cubelite should be large enough to hang a graduated background
inside (e.g., Varitone's #09 blk-wht, 43"X63") ... in fact it has clips
to do just that.

Bob

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Russel Fouts wrote:

>Bob
>
>
>
>>>Russel, that's what I found also. The "box" or "tent" is called the
>>>
>>>
>Cubelite, made by Lastolite. Comes in various sizes up to a 4 ft cube
>made of cloth-like translucent sheets attached to a collapsible frame.
>Supposed to be ideal for shooting items with high gloss. In the US the
>best prices I found were from B+H Photo, www.bhphotovideo.com. <<
>
>It's on offer in the UK from Calumet. The UK (for some reason) is part
>of the EU which means that I don't pay customs.
>
>How would you use it with a backdrop?
>
>Lastolite also has the same thing as a tent but much cheaper. It's
>called the Lite Tent but I really can't figure out how you'd use it with
>a backdrop. I think the tents are meant for smaller stuff.
>
>Russel
>
>--
> Russel Fouts
> Mes Potes & Mes Pots
> Brussels, Belgium
> Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
> Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
>
> Http://www.mypots.com
> Home of "The Potters Portal"
> Over 1800 Pottery Links!
> Updated frequently
>
>"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president,
>or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong,
>is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
>to the American public."
>
>U.S. President (and Nobel Peace Prize winner) Theodore Roosevelt.
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.
>
>
>
>

Gordon Ward on mon 2 feb 04


Dear pottery photographers:

I have now had a chance to shoot a few pix with my new light tent. It works
quite well for high gloss pots. It is a 1/2" dia. conduit frame, roughly a
40" cube, which just sits on my sheet of formica. There is nothing visible
in the lower back, so the light can fade to black. The frame allows you to
cover the sides and top with translucent fabric (held with clothes pins).
You have your choice of where to aim the lights - top or sides or any
combination. The frame (2 lengths of conduit) cost $3.14, the fabric was
$10. Halogen work lamps are $8.89 each at Home Depot. If you want a switch
for the lamps, get a plug strip with a switch for about $3 - $4. If you want
3200K bulbs (for tungsten slide film) they are about $18 ea. at Hollywood
lighting in Portland OR. The bulbs that come with the fixtures will work
fine with digital since you can easily correct the slight yellow cast.

This is a versatile set up since you can easily go back to a smaller
overhead diffuser soft box when you want to show more relief.

The most expensive fixture is the formica - around $50 for a 4 x 8 sheet.

Gordon

> From: Bob Santerre
> Reply-To: Clayart
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:45:07 -0500
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: photography-softbox
>
> Russel,
>
> The 4ft Cubelite should be large enough to hang a graduated background
> inside (e.g., Varitone's #09 blk-wht, 43"X63") ... in fact it has clips
> to do just that.
>
> Bob
>
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> Russel Fouts wrote:
>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Russel, that's what I found also. The "box" or "tent" is called the
>>>>
>>>>
>> Cubelite, made by Lastolite. Comes in various sizes up to a 4 ft cube
>> made of cloth-like translucent sheets attached to a collapsible frame.
>> Supposed to be ideal for shooting items with high gloss. In the US the
>> best prices I found were from B+H Photo, www.bhphotovideo.com. <<
>>
>> It's on offer in the UK from Calumet. The UK (for some reason) is part
>> of the EU which means that I don't pay customs.
>>
>> How would you use it with a backdrop?
>>
>> Lastolite also has the same thing as a tent but much cheaper. It's
>> called the Lite Tent but I really can't figure out how you'd use it with
>> a backdrop. I think the tents are meant for smaller stuff.
>>
>> Russel
>>
>> --
>> Russel Fouts
>> Mes Potes & Mes Pots
>> Brussels, Belgium
>> Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
>> Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
>>
>> Http://www.mypots.com
>> Home of "The Potters Portal"
>> Over 1800 Pottery Links!
>> Updated frequently
>>
>> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president,
>> or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong,
>> is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
>> to the American public."
>>
>> U.S. President (and Nobel Peace Prize winner) Theodore Roosevelt.
>>
>>
____________________________________________________________________________
_>> _
>> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
>> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>> melpots@pclink.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
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>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots@pclink.com.