Keisha on wed 4 feb 04
Hey everyone
I've been reading all comments that have been made on
the Hamada/Leech tradition. So interesting posts and
some just shoulder raising because of how cold they
were. I'm a young potter. I'm only 25 and I will admit
that I haven't head much about Hamada or Leech. They
where never talked about in my clay classes (maybe
because my clay teacher was really a sculptor). I
promise I never heard of them in my life til I was
about to graduate college; my last year. I saw this
tape that the new clay teacher had. I took it home and
watched it. Leech was on there too. I enjoyed those
alot. Are Hamada and Leech alive today???? This is sad
be true you all. Don't feel bad for me but I just
have alot of learning to do. I'm not saying that to be
a successful potter I have to know of these 2 men but
Lord knows that it would have been wonderful to
learned lots of the things you all have posted to this
list. Now that doesn't mean that I'm going to crawl
under a rock because alot of the things talked about
are over my head. I just means that I have to get
informed I guess. Truth? I only recently started
reading my clay books and reading the articles in
ceramics monthly. Those books use to just sit and
collect dust. I started picking the books up because
I'm without a wheel now and just had to stay connected
with clay in some way. Maybe I don't know much of
Hamada or Leech now but that doesnt' mean I will stay
uninformed. One other poster said that maybe the
teachers should tell the students about these well
known potters. They won't know unless they are told
are guilded to it. It worked that way for me. There is
a word that is scripture in the Bible that says that
we should "rightly divide the word"(if quoted wrong
any Christian tell me ok I'm away from my Bible haha).
Pllleeeeeeeaaaasseeee teachers rightly divide the
information you have on pottery to your students.
Don't hold back much. I was so thirsty in school for
informaton in this craft and I wouldn't get it cuz my
teacher didnt' know herself. I know that the student
much try too but goodness if beginning clay students
could teach themselves we wouldn't need the teachers
haha. Ok take care you all and blessings.....
=====
Keisha Pegues
Mound Bayou, Mississippi, U.S.A.
Peace Be With You
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Kathi LeSueur on thu 5 feb 04
As revered as Leach and Hamada are in the tradition of ceramics, and as
well known and respected as they are to many of us on list, I would be
willing to bet that neither would make the cut in a jury of a top art
fair today unless the jurors had been clued in as to who they are. That
is unfortunate. On the other hand, I was once tempted to slip in slides
of paintings by G. Harvey ( a wonderful Texas artist who's use of light
in incredible) to see if the jury would allow "cowboy" art in the show.
I have come to hate the jury system and its' dictating of what is good
and what is bad. On the other hand I don't know what to replace it with.
Kathi
john elder on thu 5 feb 04
Keisha,
I have been following this thread with interest. Clayarters CARE that is why
they bother to post. I lurk. Knowing the names of Leach or Hamada will not
greatly effect you right now. We are all on the same journey in clay just at
different places. BUT..
Sometime you will see the work of Warren MacKenzie, Claire Illian, Randy
Johnson, Mark Hewitt,
Robin Hopper, Mike Casson, Michael Simon, Will Ruggles and Douglass Rankin,
Phil Rogers, Jeff Oestreich, etc, etc, and it will strike a cord with you.
You will feel an honesty, a groundedness in the work and eventually you will
find yourself knowing the names of Leach and Hamada.
When it comes to learning about being a potter I often think of a Mark Twain
saying " don't let your education interfere with your learning".
Peace,
John Elder
>From: Keisha
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: hamada/leech tradition-rightly divide
>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:58:30 -0800
>
>Hey everyone
>
>I've been reading all comments that have been made on
>the Hamada/Leech tradition. So interesting posts and
>some just shoulder raising because of how cold they
>were. I'm a young potter. I'm only 25 and I will admit
>that I haven't head much about Hamada or Leech. They
>where never talked about in my clay classes (maybe
>because my clay teacher was really a sculptor). I
>promise I never heard of them in my life til I was
>about to graduate college; my last year. I saw this
>tape that the new clay teacher had. I took it home and
>watched it. Leech was on there too. I enjoyed those
>alot. Are Hamada and Leech alive today???? This is sad
>be true you all. Don't feel bad for me but I just
>have alot of learning to do. I'm not saying that to be
>a successful potter I have to know of these 2 men but
>Lord knows that it would have been wonderful to
>learned lots of the things you all have posted to this
>list. Now that doesn't mean that I'm going to crawl
>under a rock because alot of the things talked about
>are over my head. I just means that I have to get
>informed I guess. Truth? I only recently started
>reading my clay books and reading the articles in
>ceramics monthly. Those books use to just sit and
>collect dust. I started picking the books up because
>I'm without a wheel now and just had to stay connected
>with clay in some way. Maybe I don't know much of
>Hamada or Leech now but that doesnt' mean I will stay
>uninformed. One other poster said that maybe the
>teachers should tell the students about these well
>known potters. They won't know unless they are told
>are guilded to it. It worked that way for me. There is
>a word that is scripture in the Bible that says that
>we should "rightly divide the word"(if quoted wrong
>any Christian tell me ok I'm away from my Bible haha).
>Pllleeeeeeeaaaasseeee teachers rightly divide the
>information you have on pottery to your students.
>Don't hold back much. I was so thirsty in school for
>informaton in this craft and I wouldn't get it cuz my
>teacher didnt' know herself. I know that the student
>much try too but goodness if beginning clay students
>could teach themselves we wouldn't need the teachers
>haha. Ok take care you all and blessings.....
>
>
>=====
>Keisha Pegues
>Mound Bayou, Mississippi, U.S.A.
>Peace Be With You
>
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>Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online.
>http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
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