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juried shows, and, the notion of the "salon de refuse"

updated sat 14 feb 04

 

Snail Scott on wed 11 feb 04


At 09:02 AM 2/11/04 -0800, you wrote:
>I thought it was an interesting idea...


It can generate interesting results. Often a sense of
'sour grapes' can dominate a 'Salon des Refusees', but
especially when the 'official' show aspires to some
absolute statement or defining role, an 'opposition
party' can give the whole effort a livelier dialogue.

Here in Reno, a decision was made to have one of those
shows in which artists are selected to modify or decorate
life-size fiberglass animals, with each animal being
sponsored for money and the funds given to charity.
The shows with cows are pretty common, but other animals
have been chosen, too. The Reno show was of bighorn sheep.

Unlike most other versions of this endeavor, however,
the Reno show was not open to proposals from all, but
was limited to invited artists only, chosen by the
organizers. Needless to say, this resulted in a good deal
of resentment from artists who did not 'make the cut'.

The operators of a local alternative artspace responded
by organizing an impromptu 'Black Sheep' show to run
concurrently with the official Art Sheep show. Anyone
who was interested could cut a bighorn sheep outline
from corrugated cardboard using a template, and modify
it as they saw fit.

The official show sheep were placed around town in
various public venues, with an official full-color map/
leaflet distributed as part of the annual local arts
festival. The Black Sheep were placed in nearby locations
such as shop windows, schools, and such - wherever the
proprietor was amenable to the notion - and a xeroxed
map/guide was distributed with them.

The organizers of the official show took it rather
badly, saying that it undermined their effort at making
art in Reno look more sophisticated; the organizers of
the unofficial show said it served them right for not
alowing more participation by local artists; and some
bad blood was stirred up in the rather small local art
community. But, the often edgier, goofier, ruder, or
sometimes just scruffier efforts of the Black Sheep
artists were a nice irreverent counterpoint to the
generally more polite (and better-crafted) 'approved'
sheep, and the extra public debate did no harm to
either side.

The tourists didn't seem to care one way or another.

-Snail

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on wed 11 feb 04


"The Salon de Refuse is a historic tradition, which was
created by disgruntled French artists whose artwork was not
included in a juried exhibit. Works not selected for juried
shows are exhibited so the public can compare the juried
show to the “refuse” show. Often, these shows generate much
attention and sales, sometimes surpassing the “juried”
works."



Hi all...


I just ran across the above paragraph in an e-mail from a
local art Organization.

I thought it was an interesting idea...


Phil
Las Vegas

Kathy Forer on thu 12 feb 04


Hi Phil,
Maybe, probably, I missed something when I first read it. I wondered
whether there was a show from which people were rejected or was this an
attempt to create an anti-show show? Probably an idea I'd have been
keen on in my anti-Shakespeare-Essay days, but one that seems like a
conceit now unless very well done (form and content triumphing over
subject).

Or is the idea to create segregated exhibits, one for those juried
acceptable, the other for those not? If that's the sense, as you seem
to read it, well, okay. It's nice to be shown, but why keep the jury at
all, why not get rid of it altogether? It's a compromise, I suppose. We
all need to categorize and structure, and one of the purposes of a jury
is to help us evaluate and understand work. They can still do that
without having to give out pass/fail. How about organizing the work
around other principles, then let the public judge for themselves, if
they need to?

Kathy
Locust

Jean Lehman on thu 12 feb 04


Actually, I think it might be kind of fun to have a Strictly
Dysfunctional Pottery National exhibition at the same time as the
Strictly Functional Pottery National... just don't ask ME to chair
it!!

Jean



>Well...why would they want to do this?
>
>Maybe because it would be fun, interesting, allow insight
>into the Jurer's criteria or logic for what was
>elected/selected... and allow more things for the attendees
of an exhibit to look at...
--
-------------------->
Jean Lehman,
jlehman73@earthlink.net

in Lancaster, PA
http://www.art-craftpa.com/sfpn1.html
Check in on line to see the 2003 Strictly Functional Pottery National
exhibition, juried by Wayne Higby.
The 12th Annual SFPN will be shown in it's entirety when the show
opens on April 24, 2004. Juror is Susan Peterson! (We had more
applicants than ever before for this show!)

Kathy Forer on thu 12 feb 04


On Feb 11, 2004, at 12:02 PM, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:

> I just ran across the above paragraph in an e-mail from a
> local art Organization.
>
> I thought it was an interesting idea...

I don't know why an Organization would want to do this, unless they're
organized, as Snail's Black Sheep organization, in direct response to
something else. Just saying you're the outside party, when there is no
clear 'inside', is inverse snobbery (a kind of ironic conformity).

Kathy
Locust

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 12 feb 04


Hi Kathy, all...


Well...why would they want to do this?

Maybe because it would be fun, interesting, allow insight
into the Jurer's criteria or logic for what was
elected/selected... and allow more things for the attendees
of an exhibit to look at, as well as allowing more artists
as had paid to BE juried to have their Work seen, and,
perhaps a much better time may be had by all...


If their Work sucks, the public, the other artists and the
attendded generally, may so note.
even as they may so note IN the Juried Show, should such be
the case, and, sometimes it is too.


The organization whose e-mail to me I had quoted, has
verious Juried Shows every year.

They have acess to contiguously more space than needed for
the 'show' itself, and, often have something else going on
in that extra space to make for a more varied evening for
the 'openings', 'shows' or whatever we may call
them...'Exhibits'...


I think the idea may be a very good one in those situations
where it can allow the rejected submissions to be seen as
well because there is a polite way of having enough seperate
rool to do so. One may...MAY get some idea then as to the
logic or criteria of the Jurer, and appreciate the Juried
Show even more than one would have otherwise, as well as see
things meritorious in themselves as did not fit the jurer's
peramiters in some other way.

That's the sense it makes to me...

Best wishes!


Phil
Las Vegas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Forer"

> On Feb 11, 2004, at 12:02 PM, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
>
> > I just ran across the above paragraph in an e-mail from
a
> > local art Organization.
> >
> > I thought it was an interesting idea...
>
> I don't know why an Organization would want to do this,
unless they're
> organized, as Snail's Black Sheep organization, in direct
response to
> something else. Just saying you're the outside party, when
there is no
> clear 'inside', is inverse snobbery (a kind of ironic
conformity).
>
> Kathy
> Locust
>
>
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claybair on thu 12 feb 04


Remember that Empty Bowls project run by a local
gallery which used the Duncan leaded glaze?
They sold these bowls for $75 of which 25% went to the gallery.
They did not label or state there was lead in the glaze... I guess
they didn't have to as was within the gov't circa. 1970 standards.
I recently found out this show totally overshadowed another empty bowls
project that a local potter had worked on for 2 years with school children.
The gallery got all the local publicity and the big arteest's support.
The children's bowls project which of course were much more aesthetic
had virtually no publicity... the gallery got it all.
So the kids only sold 2/3s of their bowls.
Today I called the person running it, suggested a few ways to get the rest
sold and offered my help for next year. Oddly enough she made a
totally safe low fire glaze for the kids bowls.
I hope the people who bought those awful bowls for $75 a piece enjoy
their daily recommended allowance of lead!

Gayle Bair.... proud & loud black sheep
Bainbridge Island, WA
http://claybair.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Snail Scott

At 09:02 AM 2/11/04 -0800, you wrote:
>I thought it was an interesting idea...


It can generate interesting results. Often a sense of
'sour grapes' can dominate a 'Salon des Refusees', but
especially when the 'official' show aspires to some
absolute statement or defining role, an 'opposition
party' can give the whole effort a livelier dialogue.

Here in Reno, a decision was made to have one of those
shows in which artists are selected to modify or decorate
life-size fiberglass animals, with each animal being
sponsored for money and the funds given to charity.
The shows with cows are pretty common, but other animals
have been chosen, too. The Reno show was of bighorn sheep.

Unlike most other versions of this endeavor, however,
the Reno show was not open to proposals from all, but
was limited to invited artists only, chosen by the
organizers. Needless to say, this resulted in a good deal
of resentment from artists who did not 'make the cut'.

The operators of a local alternative artspace responded
by organizing an impromptu 'Black Sheep' show to run
concurrently with the official Art Sheep show. Anyone
who was interested could cut a bighorn sheep outline
from corrugated cardboard using a template, and modify
it as they saw fit. Snip>