Peter Coates on fri 13 feb 04
Hello...
At the City Art Center we have brent's cxc, soldners, creative industries,
pacifica and axners new wheel... In fact the last two years I've bought
axner wheels. My favorite wheel is my personal cxc and two of the centers
cxcs... they (brent) just don't make them like they used to... the art
center has two of the "not as good as they used to be" wheels...and two of
the older ones...
I give axner two thumbs up on there new wheels... if I was buying a wheel
today for myself... I would probably buy the axner.
Peter in OKC, Oklahellma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Moore"
To:
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:49 PM
Subject: Pottery Wheels
Hello, all..
I am about to add a second pottery wheel to my small studio . I learned
on a Brent and have owned a CXC from the beginning of my pottery
experience. I have searched the archives and have read all of the comments
you have written, but since we now have new wheels out there, would anyone
care to share what they like or dislike about Pacificas, Bailey, the new
Whisper wheel by Shimpo? I've always enjoyed the full horse power by Brent,
and I know the Torque is the thing to consider for power.. Can anyone give
their experiences?? good or not so good?? I don't ask for endorsements, just
honest info.. Thanks for anyone who responds,, Carolyn
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Carolyn Moore on fri 13 feb 04
Hello, all..
I am about to add a second pottery wheel to my small studio . I =
learned on a Brent and have owned a CXC from the beginning of my =
pottery experience. I have searched the archives and have read all of =
the comments you have written, but since we now have new wheels out =
there, would anyone care to share what they like or dislike about =
Pacificas, Bailey, the new Whisper wheel by Shimpo? I've always enjoyed =
the full horse power by Brent, and I know the Torque is the thing to =
consider for power.. Can anyone give their experiences?? good or not so =
good?? I don't ask for endorsements, just honest info.. Thanks for =
anyone who responds,, Carolyn
SCOTT YEIP on fri 13 feb 04
Hi, Carolyn,
I have had the new Shimpo RK-Whisper since May. I absolutely love it! =
It is extremely quiet which is nice since my studio won't be ready til =
summer. So, I throw inside while my family watches TV, heh, heh. It =
goes in forward and reverse, which is nice for clean up of pots. The =
foot pedal also has a handle/stick so anyone who has arthritis or any =
other leg problem can work the wheel controls by hand. It has a =
brushless motor and NO BELT to wear out as it is direct drive. I have =
thrown on two other company's wheels (nameless) but this is the =
favorite!
Amy
Tracy Wilson on sat 14 feb 04
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:49:06 -0500, Carolyn Moore
wrote:
>Hello, all..
> I am about to add a second pottery wheel to my small studio . I learned
on a Brent and have owned a CXC from the beginning of my pottery
experience. I have searched the archives and have read all of the comments
you have written, but since we now have new wheels out there, would anyone
care to share what they like or dislike about Pacificas, Bailey, the new
Whisper wheel by Shimpo? I've always enjoyed the full horse power by Brent,
and I know the Torque is the thing to consider for power.. Can anyone give
their experiences?? good or not so good?? I don't ask for endorsements,
just honest info.. Thanks for anyone who responds,, Carolyn
>
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I now have 2 Pacifica GlydeTorc 400's in my studio. They have the same bat
pin spacing as the brents so bats can be interchanged. I rarely make pots
larger that 8 lbs and I know there's plenty more power than I'll ever
need. There's no way I can slow the wheel during centering. I've had one
wheel since 1978 (new motor about 8 years ago, I think because it spent a
winter or 2 in an unheated damp barn) The other, I bought new in 1996.
I've had to replace a couple of spaghetti belts. The nice thing is that
there are 4 belts so you have time to replace a belt at your convenience
without unnecessary down time. They're both work horses. They've been
running full tilt since 1996 'nuff sed.
Tracy Wlson
Saltbox Pottery
1-800-755-7687
Anne Webb on sat 14 feb 04
Hi Carolyn,,,
I've tried several wheels. I'm presently throwing on a very old Soldner
wheel and it is by far the best wheel i have tried.. nice and quiet, smooth,
good torque, strong, nice big work service, easy to replace most parts..
anyone who has ever tried one knows what i am talking about.
Have tried a new Soldner as well (a clamp on model), now manufactured by
Bluebird. It rivals my Shimpo Masterseries for quietness and smoothness,
but only had the chance to try it (the new soldner model) when it was new,
not once it had any wear on it.
The Shimpo Masterseries are nice wheels.. again much more quiet than a Brent
(what isnt) but i understand that if you use a lot of water and let the
splashpan fill up (like students tend to do) without emptying it, the water
seeps down into the guts of the machine and it doesnt like that too
much...that was with using the one peice splash pan that originally came
with the wheel. I understand they have made some changes re splashpans since
then.
Tried a few other Shimpos as well and they all performed admirably.
Havent had chance to use the new Whisper wheel but am intrigued.
As far as Pacificas go, i hated the lower power model... it was like a toy
with its squeaky plastic parts and didnt hold up well to larger peices of
clay. I tried the 1 HP model though and that was a dramatic improvement over
the other.
Brents ... loud hum in comparison with others. I learned on a brent as well.
its ok but the less than 1 hp models didnt handle larger amounts of clay
as well (can stop the wheel head with a firm grasp with both hands - models
a and b). and they are more expensive than some other wheels with greater
torque capacity. the best brent i tried was a CXC for strength and
reliability. I havent tried any newly manufactured Brents so dont know how
they compare. IMHO you get better bang for your buck with a Shimpo than the
overpriced Brent any day.
Lockerbie's are great, if you like motorized kickwheels. and Goodwoods (if
you can find them) are great. Didnt like the Thomas Stewart wheel i had as i
was unable to place the seat to where it didnt give me back problems; some
people really like them though.
Best of luck finding the wheel that's best for you.
Cheers!
Anne Webb
Magnolia Springs, AL
>Hello, all..
> I am about to add a second pottery wheel to my small studio . I learned
>on a Brent and have owned a CXC from the beginning of my pottery
>experience. I have searched the archives and have read all of the comments
>you have written, but since we now have new wheels out there, would anyone
>care to share what they like or dislike about Pacificas, Bailey, the new
>Whisper wheel by Shimpo? I've always enjoyed the full horse power by Brent,
>and I know the Torque is the thing to consider for power.. Can anyone give
>their experiences?? good or not so good?? I don't ask for endorsements,
>just honest info.. Thanks for anyone who responds,, Carolyn
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john elder on sat 14 feb 04
Carolyn, after over 30 years of potting I have thrown on a lot of different
wheels. More than ever I want a wheel that can go slow over a log range of
pedal movement. I like to throw on a kick wheel now, a Brent or Lockerbie
and that will be my next wheel purchase. I have thrown on a Soldner
Professional model for the last 25 years. I have checked out all the foot
pedals when I go to NECCA and I feel Soldner is still the best.
Well that's my 2 cents.......
John Elder
>From: Carolyn Moore
>Reply-To: Clayart
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Pottery Wheels
>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:49:06 -0500
>
>Hello, all..
> I am about to add a second pottery wheel to my small studio . I learned
>on a Brent and have owned a CXC from the beginning of my pottery
>experience. I have searched the archives and have read all of the comments
>you have written, but since we now have new wheels out there, would anyone
>care to share what they like or dislike about Pacificas, Bailey, the new
>Whisper wheel by Shimpo? I've always enjoyed the full horse power by Brent,
>and I know the Torque is the thing to consider for power.. Can anyone give
>their experiences?? good or not so good?? I don't ask for endorsements,
>just honest info.. Thanks for anyone who responds,, Carolyn
>
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Ann Brink on wed 28 sep 05
Hello Steve- I have an older Pacifica 400 and love it and I can get a very
slow gradual start with mine. I think someone needs to adjust the screw on
the foot pedal of the one you used.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Irvine"
> Hi Sandy,
>
> I used a Pacifica this past weekend at a potters' event organized by
FUSION, called Clay Olympics.
> It functioned well and was quiet. My only complaint was that the foot
pedal wouldn't give me a
> nice, smooth start. The wheel motion always started with sort of a jolt.
In some circumstances it's
> important to have a gradual, slow motion start to the wheel, and I had a
hard time getting it out of
> the Pacifica.
>
> Steve
> http://www.steveirvine.com
>
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:45:42 -0400, Sandy wrote:
> >I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far, are
> >the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400. I would love to have your
> >advice, pros and cons, and your opinions on these two wheels.
> >Sandy
>
Jennifer Boyer on wed 28 sep 05
Hi All
The Shimpo VL Whisper has a floor foot pedal. I have both of these
wheels and like them both. But you haven't heard "quiet" til you've
used a Whisper....love that.
Also I use the extension legs on both wheels and the Shimpo leg
clamping mechanism is better. My Pacifica leg clamps loosen over time.
That's why I know I can throw on an unlevel wheel. NO problem....
Jennifer
On Sep 28, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Scott Paulding wrote:
> personally, i have never liked shimpo wheels. they are too low for me
> (i'm tall). but, in order to have the accelleration pedal low enough
> to be remotely usable, i can't raise the wheel up at all (it's
> attached to the side of the wheel, so it is as high off the ground as
> the wheel is). i always seem to find myself hunched over the wheel,
> with my knee in my face (or at least horribly off center physically).
>
> i have no complaints about the pacifica wheel. they are great, very,
> very quiet, smooth working pedal, and easily reversable (so are
> shimpo's though). pacifica is probably what i would buy if i were
> going to buy an electric wheel.
>
> i hope this helps,
>
> -scott
>
> On 9/28/05, Sandy wrote:
>> Hi to all of you clay gurus,
>>
>>
>> I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far,
>> are
>> the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400.
>> ************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
Sandy on wed 28 sep 05
Hi to all of you clay gurus,
I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far, are
the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400. I would love to have your
advice, pros and cons, and your opinions on these two wheels. Also, would
anyone please recommend a good video on throwing? Thanks!
Sandy
occhiopazzo@hotmail.com
Scott Paulding on wed 28 sep 05
personally, i have never liked shimpo wheels. they are too low for me
(i'm tall). but, in order to have the accelleration pedal low enough
to be remotely usable, i can't raise the wheel up at all (it's
attached to the side of the wheel, so it is as high off the ground as
the wheel is). i always seem to find myself hunched over the wheel,
with my knee in my face (or at least horribly off center physically).
i have no complaints about the pacifica wheel. they are great, very,
very quiet, smooth working pedal, and easily reversable (so are
shimpo's though). pacifica is probably what i would buy if i were
going to buy an electric wheel.
i hope this helps,
-scott
On 9/28/05, Sandy wrote:
> Hi to all of you clay gurus,
>
>
> I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far, are
> the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400. I would love to have your
> advice, pros and cons, and your opinions on these two wheels. Also, would
> anyone please recommend a good video on throwing? Thanks!
> Sandy
> occhiopazzo@hotmail.com
>
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claybair on wed 28 sep 05
Sandy,
This is a subject which is influenced by personal & production issues.
There are many factors like tall, short, how much clay is thrown at a time,
motor noise issues, flimsy or sturdy or no splash pans, what attachments you
might need etc. which effect equipment choices.
The best advice I give is to go to your local dealer and try out the wheels.
Sit at it, if not allowed to actually try to throw something turn it on &
listen to it, hunch over it, imagine throwing on it, try the pedal... is it
sensitive/responsive enough for you etc.
See which one(s) fit you then can ask about it/them on Clayart for issues
such as
reliability, service, etc.! This advice is equally important with other
tools... e.g. extruders, kilns etc.
There is no one size fits all. This is an investment and you need to do some
work if you are going to be happy. It has to be YOUR choice not mine or
Scott's or anyone else's.
Gayle Bair -is very short and loves her ancient Shimpo but also happy with
her CI and Axner wheels.
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Scott
Paulding
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:39 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: pottery wheels
personally, i have never liked shimpo wheels. they are too low for me
(i'm tall). but, in order to have the accelleration pedal low enough
to be remotely usable, i can't raise the wheel up at all (it's
attached to the side of the wheel, so it is as high off the ground as
the wheel is). i always seem to find myself hunched over the wheel,
with my knee in my face (or at least horribly off center physically).
i have no complaints about the pacifica wheel. they are great, very,
very quiet, smooth working pedal, and easily reversable (so are
shimpo's though). pacifica is probably what i would buy if i were
going to buy an electric wheel.
i hope this helps,
-scott
On 9/28/05, Sandy wrote:
> Hi to all of you clay gurus,
>
>
> I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far, are
> the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400. I would love to have your
> advice, pros and cons, and your opinions on these two wheels. Also, would
> anyone please recommend a good video on throwing? Thanks!
> Sandy
> occhiopazzo@hotmail.com
>
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Steve Irvine on wed 28 sep 05
Hi Sandy,
I used a Pacifica this past weekend at a potters' event organized by FUSION, called Clay Olympics.
It functioned well and was quiet. My only complaint was that the foot pedal wouldn't give me a
nice, smooth start. The wheel motion always started with sort of a jolt. In some circumstances it's
important to have a gradual, slow motion start to the wheel, and I had a hard time getting it out of
the Pacifica.
Steve
http://www.steveirvine.com
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:45:42 -0400, Sandy wrote:
>I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far, are
>the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400. I would love to have your
>advice, pros and cons, and your opinions on these two wheels.
>Sandy
Steve Irvine on thu 29 sep 05
Hi Ann,
That's good to hear. It seemed like a good wheel otherwise. Now if someone else has this small
issue with the wheel they'll know how to fix it.
Steve
http://www.steveirvine.com
From Big Bay, Ont. where I received my first snow blower ad of the year in the mail today.
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:13:23 -0700, Ann Brink wrote:
>Hello Steve- I have an older Pacifica 400 and love it and I can get a very
>slow gradual start with mine. I think someone needs to adjust the screw on
>the foot pedal of the one you used.
>
>Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
>
Dan Hill on fri 30 sep 05
Hello all.
I bought a Pacifica 400 last year and really like it. I had a shimpo cone
drive from the seventies before that.
The pacifica is very quiet though not silent like the whisper. I compared
the Pacifica and the Shimpo Whisper side by side and chose the pacifica
because of the power. I was able to slow the whisper easily while centering.
Just a note on raising the hieght of your Pacifica wheel, 2" ABS plumbing
pipe and fittings fit right on to the pipe legs nice and snug. Just cut the
ABS on a mitre saw and use ABS couplings to attach to the legs.
Dan Hill
Wilno Ontario Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer Boyer"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: pottery wheels
> Hi All
> The Shimpo VL Whisper has a floor foot pedal. I have both of these
> wheels and like them both. But you haven't heard "quiet" til you've
> used a Whisper....love that.
> Also I use the extension legs on both wheels and the Shimpo leg
> clamping mechanism is better. My Pacifica leg clamps loosen over time.
> That's why I know I can throw on an unlevel wheel. NO problem....
>
> Jennifer
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Scott Paulding wrote:
>
> > personally, i have never liked shimpo wheels. they are too low for me
> > (i'm tall). but, in order to have the accelleration pedal low enough
> > to be remotely usable, i can't raise the wheel up at all (it's
> > attached to the side of the wheel, so it is as high off the ground as
> > the wheel is). i always seem to find myself hunched over the wheel,
> > with my knee in my face (or at least horribly off center physically).
> >
> > i have no complaints about the pacifica wheel. they are great, very,
> > very quiet, smooth working pedal, and easily reversable (so are
> > shimpo's though). pacifica is probably what i would buy if i were
> > going to buy an electric wheel.
> >
> > i hope this helps,
> >
> > -scott
> >
> > On 9/28/05, Sandy wrote:
> >> Hi to all of you clay gurus,
> >>
> >>
> >> I am in the market for a pottery wheel. The top contenders, so far,
> >> are
> >> the Shimpo VL Whisper and the Pacifica GT400.
> >> ************************
> Jennifer Boyer
> Thistle Hill Pottery
> Montpelier, VT
>
> http://thistlehillpottery.com
>
>
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