Dave Finkelnburg on thu 26 feb 04
Dear ISP-literate Clayarters,
About twice a month my ISP's spam filter kicks out a Clayart e-mail. =
The latest victim was Lyla Kaplan's post below. Can anyone explain why =
this got blocked but not every other post yesterday? =20
Thanks!
Dave Finkelnburg
----- Original Message -----=20
From: lyla kaplan=20
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:01 AM
Subject: rebuilding old salt kiln- questions
i have the opportunity to tear down a big old 115 c.ft. salt kiln, =
interior is hardbrick that apparently hasn't fused due to generous kiln =
wash. it also has an exterior layer of soft brick . i would be building =
a 30 c ft soda kiln. although the interior has not fused (except for the =
bagwall), the kiln has been salt fired about 30-40 times. obviously, i =
would use the best bricks, but would it be a bad idea to rebuild for a =
soda/salt kiln?=20
- would the exterior soft bricks have lost their insulating value =
(maybe that's a stupid question)?=20
- could the old hard bricks handle itc sprayed on or is itc only good =
for "virgin" bricks?
thanks! getting this would be a big leap for me, so any feedback would =
be greatly appreciated!
lyla in pennsylvania
imagine
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Dewitt on thu 26 feb 04
At 11:27 AM 2/26/2004, you wrote:
>Dear ISP-literate Clayarters,
> About twice a month my ISP's spam filter kicks out a Clayart
> e-mail. The latest victim was Lyla Kaplan's post below. Can anyone
> explain why this got blocked but not every other post yesterday?
> Thanks!
> Dave Finkelnburg
>
> - could the old hard bricks handle itc sprayed on or is itc only good
> for "virgin" bricks?
I'd put my money on the word "virgin". It likely is in their list of
common words used in porn spam.
deg
daniel on thu 26 feb 04
Hi Dave,
I'd suggest you shoot it at your ISP and ask them if they think that
certain words would have caused it to kick it out. If you wanted to have fun
you could register a free account somewhere and send variants of it to
yourself to see what gets through :)
Thanx
D
> Dear ISP-literate Clayarters,
> About twice a month my ISP's spam filter kicks out a Clayart e-mail. The latest victim was Lyla Kaplan's post below. Can anyone explain why this got blocked but not every other post yesterday?
> Thanks!
> Dave Finkelnburg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lyla kaplan
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:01 AM
> Subject: rebuilding old salt kiln- questions
>
>
> i have the opportunity to tear down a big old 115 c.ft. salt kiln, interior is hardbrick that apparently hasn't fused due to generous kiln wash. it also has an exterior layer of soft brick . i would be building a 30 c ft soda kiln. although the interior has not fused (except for the bagwall), the kiln has been salt fired about 30-40 times. obviously, i would use the best bricks, but would it be a bad idea to rebuild for a soda/salt kiln?
>
> - would the exterior soft bricks have lost their insulating value (maybe that's a stupid question)?
>
> - could the old hard bricks handle itc sprayed on or is itc only good for "virgin" bricks?
>
> thanks! getting this would be a big leap for me, so any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
>
> lyla in pennsylvania
>
> imagine
>
>
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David Hendley on thu 26 feb 04
I'm not ISP-literate, but I suspect "virgin" is a no-no word.
David Hendley
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
Dear ISP-literate Clayarters,
About twice a month my ISP's spam filter kicks out a Clayart e-mail.
The latest victim was Lyla Kaplan's post below. Can anyone explain why this
got blocked but not every other post yesterday?
Thanks!
Dave Finkelnburg
Paul Herman on fri 27 feb 04
hello Dave,
I think I have it. Every time I recieve one of Lyla's emails through
Clayaart, when I open the email, it launches my computer off to some
website, just like spam. Then it loads two little red hearts and puts
them on either side if "imagine" below her signature. Cute, huh? Also a
pain in the ass, because if I'm not online, it will ORDER my computer to
dial up the phone and I have to override it.
So your ISP is pretty good at detecting this kind of 'spammer' activity,
obviously better than the Clayart computer. Mel, isn't the listserver
supposed to catch this stuff and can it?
Now comes the big question. Lyla, how about taking the website launch
order out of your emails to Clayart?
Thanks and best wishes,
Paul Herman
Great Basin Pottery
Doyle, California US
http://www.greatbasinpottery.com/
----------
>From: Dave Finkelnburg
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Blocked e-mails question
>Date: Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 9:27 AM
>
> Dear ISP-literate Clayarters,
> About twice a month my ISP's spam filter kicks out a Clayart e-mail.
> The latest victim was Lyla Kaplan's post below. Can anyone explain why
> this got blocked but not every other post yesterday?
> Thanks!
> Dave Finkelnburg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lyla kaplan
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:01 AM
> Subject: rebuilding old salt kiln- questions
>
>
> i have the opportunity to tear down a big old 115 c.ft. salt kiln,
> interior is hardbrick that apparently hasn't fused due to generous kiln
> wash. it also has an exterior layer of soft brick . i would be building a
> 30 c ft soda kiln. although the interior has not fused (except for the
> bagwall), the kiln has been salt fired about 30-40 times. obviously, i
> would use the best bricks, but would it be a bad idea to rebuild for a
> soda/salt kiln?
>
> - would the exterior soft bricks have lost their insulating value (maybe
> that's a stupid question)?
>
> - could the old hard bricks handle itc sprayed on or is itc only good for
> "virgin" bricks?
>
> thanks! getting this would be a big leap for me, so any feedback would be
> greatly appreciated!
>
> lyla in pennsylvania
>
> imagine
>
Maurice Weitman on fri 27 feb 04
Bingo (probably), Paul.
Although it's though not certain, but likely, that you've found the
reason that Dave's ISP rejected that message, it definitely points up
the dangers of receiving HTML (web code) messages in email.
For many reasons, I think HTML should not be used in email. Among
other things, it can be used to let spammers know that you've
received their junk, and certainly takes more space and time to be
transmitted and stored.
I would encourage all of you to set your email program to ignore HTML
codes. I'll bet that 99% of the HTML email you receive is spam, and
the rest is inconsequential formatting that well-meaning
correspondents (like Lyla) unwittingly use in their email to "zip it
up" a bit.
It also can play havoc with those who get the digest version.
My email program (Eudora) is set to ignore all HTML and text
formatting (I've never seen Lyla's hearts, for instance), and has a
function (Open in Browser) which I can use to view an email message
using my web browser to display the message interpreting the HTML
correctly. But this is done rarely and selectively.
Regards,
Maurice
At 7:24 -0800 on 2/27/04, Paul Herman wrote:
>hello Dave,
>
>I think I have it. Every time I recieve one of Lyla's emails through
>Clayaart, when I open the email, it launches my computer off to some
>website, just like spam. Then it loads two little red hearts and puts
>them on either side if "imagine" below her signature. Cute, huh? Also a
>pain in the ass, because if I'm not online, it will ORDER my computer to
>dial up the phone and I have to override it.
>
>So your ISP is pretty good at detecting this kind of 'spammer' activity,
>obviously better than the Clayart computer. Mel, isn't the listserver
>supposed to catch this stuff and can it?
>
>Now comes the big question. Lyla, how about taking the website launch
>order out of your emails to Clayart?
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