primalmommy on mon 22 mar 04
Some stuff I learned at NCECA:
I learned that really fancy hotels have an ever-changing, ever-smiling,
handsome assortment of men in uniform standing in the doorway just to
say "good morning!" or "good afternoon!" and inquire as to how they
might be helpful. A person could get used to that.
I learned that Joyce Lee is as charming, as wise and as caring in real
life as she is on line.. maybe just a touch sweeter.
I learned that a hotel bar that claims to close at midnight is either
unwilling or unable to evict a hundred thirsty potters and thus will
remain open-- night after night -- until we're damn well ready to go
home.
I learned that lots of potters smoke :>p
I learned that you can walk all over downtown Indy without ever leaving
the habitrail-network of corridors to go outside.
Also, that the Artstream trailer (an airstream that's a mobile gallery)
is well worth the visit. I bought a big Allegheny Meadows bowl with a
buttery smooth glaze inside.
I learned that Russel Fouts smells wonderful.. ;0)
I learned that a remarkable number of vendors in the exhibition hall
have a name badge with the same name as the company. My Toledo diva-guru
Edith Franklin (80) has been a potter for 60 years and she darted
through the crowd with me in tow, chatting with a Dolan here and a Skutt
there -- all of whom she knew when they were children hanging out in mom
and dad's booth at the exhibition. And they all remember her! I have to
wonder whether any other area of businesses could contain so many
families. It is lovely to have a face behind names like Axner, and Ward,
and all those others I used to think were just tools or kilns.. not to
mention the authors walking around.
(Speaking of "exhibition" I also got a signed Soldner poster and a
claymates calendar..)
I learned in the Kinsey Institute lecture that erotic ceramics were
confiscated by the government if shipped to the USA... to me, a
frightening reminder of how fragile personal liberties can be... Still
wondering whether some of those phallic ceramics were decorative or
functional ;0>
You know how an excited puppy just wiggles all over with sheer joy? I
learned that our Marta with her charming accent was like a little kid at
NCECA, excited and happy and truly in love with everybody... must be a
redhead thing ;0)
I learned that "rathskellar" means really good beer and sausage.. and
that sometimes you get the giggles and can't quit..
I learned from V.S. Ramachandran that our brains are an intricate,
mysterious, fascinating link to creativity and the dance of the senses
and perceptions.
I learned that some people can take highly intimidating, complex issues
like brain structure and function -- or in Louis Katz's case, glaze
chemistry -- and make it unintimidating, accessible, even humorous..
while others can take a notion like "thinking up new pots" and wrap it
in endless, navel-gazing, brain numbing jargon. I learned that -- except
in discussion of technique, or glazing, or firing -- I care a lot more
about why and how I make pots than about why and how other people do.
I learned that if you grin for three days straight your face starts to
hurt.. but you still can't stop grinning.
I learned that nobody has ever heard of Kelly Averill Savino but most
people seem glad to meet primalmommy... years ago I joined clayart
without changing my old ID from an attachment parenting list server and
it seems to have stuck..
I learned that Carla Flati looks like a younger, prettier Liza Minelli
with a voice that carries through a crowded room - and she drinks some
clear stuff that smells like licorice, makes your eyes water and has
coffee beans floating in it.
I learned that on a good day, between dinner time and party time, the
whirlpool/hot tub at the hotel fills up with muscular young grad student
types. Some of us (however middle aged and/or happily married) made a
special point of stopping by to sit in the "beef stew" and enjoy the
view ;0)
I learned that if Paul Soldner can be happy and proud of his
octogenarian physique, I can get over worrying about my 40-something,
mother-of-3 bulges and just let it all hang out..
I learned that it's a wonderful thing to dance in a writhing mass of
clayart friends...
I learned that Phil Poburka is a unique piece of work... besides being a
truly vintage guy, from the glasses to the leather jacket to the stapler
and cigar box that comprise his sales equipment - he is sincere and
devoted to his tools, customers and business. Though I suspect his
lifestyle is usually a bit reclusive, he had people in his face nonstop
for the whole conference and handled it like a trooper. He would barely
stop to eat a meal or take a break. I learned (from Phil) that beef is
deadly, meat and dairy are terrible for your system.. but it's OK to
live on Pall Malls and coffee all for most of the day and switch to
rusty nails in the evening ;0) (Phil, it was an honor to meet you.) p.s.
folks, Phil is also a "babe magnet"... he had more girls in his booth or
at his table at the bar than Soldner did..
I learned that David Hendley is just a walking fashion plate... his new
"purse" you'd have to see to appreciate fully.. a vintage flute box with
girlish lettering saying "the beatles are fab"...
I learned that Merrie Boerner is a one woman party waiting to happen,
and that if we spent a lot of time together we'd get in a lot of
trouble.
I learned that Lori Leary and Gail Dapogny and I make pretty good
roomies.. three substantial women in two narrowish beds, each with
suitcases and 500 pounds of posters and purchases, would have been a bit
crowded if they hadn't been so much fun. After midnight everything we
said was either brilliant or hilarious. I plan to write a highly
intellectual article regarding the function of "gettability factor" in
ceramic objects.
I learned in the K-12 exhibit that art teachers are alive and well, and
those adults who are getting complacent about making good work had
better look back over their shoulders and see who is gaining on them!
I learned that Ron Roy is a very smart man with a leprechaunish wit, and
wonderful taste in food and wine... and that meticky Liz and I need to
go ballooning together in France when we are old ladies...
I learned that Arti's kick-ass pots feel as good in the hand as they
look in the photos. Thanks, David, for bringing one for us to see... and
Arti, if you're out there, we'll be looking for you next year.
I learned that George Kokis who was my teacher in Eugene Oregon, is
looking great...
I learned that the women of clayart are a wonderful bunch - sisters all,
ready with a hug and making some really amazing pottery... and that
there is not enough time in the span of a conference to have dinner with
all the people you meant to sit with. Andi, LP Skeen, the Dancing Viking
Wench, other substantial women I had not met before -- along with my
buds from former workshops I was so thrilled to see again.
I learned that the potters who have most enhanced my learning and have
extended their experience and advice to clayart were traveling
surrounded by their students... and that their students were bright,
promising potters already.
I learned that Tony Clennel has these dreamy, sparkly blue, sensitive
eyes -- and in person is much more of a "softie" than his
posts/claytimes photo would indicate. Looking forward to meeting his
better half one day.
I learned that I am wound way too tight to spend much time watching
potters make pots on a big screen at demos, even if they are brilliant
potters. As much as I adored the day long demos at Phyllis's Functional
Ceramics in Wooster, there were just too many other choices at NCECA and
the best I could do was pop in and out of all of them.
I learned that if you ever see a big bearded guy named Dave McBeth
drinking out of a really nice cup, tell him how nice it is.. he just
might whip one out of his pocket and hand it to you ;0)
I learned that the Potter's Council is alive and well, planning new
plans and making things happen... and Tim Frederich is as busy as a one
armed paper hanger..
I learned that it's easy to low-carb on vacation... even eating in
restaurants and drinking a lot more beer than usual I lost a pound. OK,
swimming and dancing helped...
I learned that Mel is as good in print as he is in person... and truly a
stud muffin these days, trim and healthy. Still a smarty pants though.
I learned that hubby was able to shuttle kids to two swim lessons, a
girl scout and a boy scout meeting, the homeschool co-op, kindermusik
class and piano lessons with very few glitches.. but he can't imagine
how I manage to homeschool, organize their chores and make meals (oh,
and pots) when I spend half my life in the car. I think the kids have
had their annual quota of nintendo and cartoons... but mama's home and
it's back to work.
The boys just did subtraction/regrouping practice, helping me pay my
bills... we got down to $60 and still have to pay orthodontist,
insurance and property taxes so tomorrow we'll be practicing working
with negative numbers.
Can't wait to see some pictures. There is a frightening array of digital
cameras around these days, we can get caught doing lord knows what at
any minute, and then it could end up on the internet. I might be willing
to pay to suppress release of the dance-floor-viking-woman-arm-wrestling
shot somebody took which i suspect may be unflattering ;0}
Finally, I learned that I am nothing like the way folks pictured me on
line.. less matronly, apparently, and shorter. (How does one write
"taller"?)
Pasta's boiling, gotta go make lunch.
Yours, kelly
back in Ohio
Squirreling away my money for Baltimore
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Donald Goldsobel on mon 22 mar 04
In addition to all of the comments of other NCECA attendees, which I adpot
and applaud, Kelley Sarvino makes great home brew that tasted like the best
port wine.
Thanks to all who made my time in INDY such a BLAST.
Donald
----- Original Message -----
From: "primalmommy"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:16 AM
Subject: What I learned at NCECA
> Some stuff I learned at NCECA:
>
> I learned that really fancy hotels have an ever-changing, ever-smiling,
> handsome assortment of men in uniform standing in the doorway just to
> say "good morning!" or "good afternoon!" and inquire as to how they
> might be helpful. A person could get used to that.
>
> I learned that Joyce Lee is as charming, as wise and as caring in real
> life as she is on line.. maybe just a touch sweeter.
>
> I learned that a hotel bar that claims to close at midnight is either
> unwilling or unable to evict a hundred thirsty potters and thus will
> remain open-- night after night -- until we're damn well ready to go
> home.
>
> I learned that lots of potters smoke :>p
>
> I learned that you can walk all over downtown Indy without ever leaving
> the habitrail-network of corridors to go outside.
>
> Also, that the Artstream trailer (an airstream that's a mobile gallery)
> is well worth the visit. I bought a big Allegheny Meadows bowl with a
> buttery smooth glaze inside.
>
> I learned that Russel Fouts smells wonderful.. ;0)
>
> I learned that a remarkable number of vendors in the exhibition hall
> have a name badge with the same name as the company. My Toledo diva-guru
> Edith Franklin (80) has been a potter for 60 years and she darted
> through the crowd with me in tow, chatting with a Dolan here and a Skutt
> there -- all of whom she knew when they were children hanging out in mom
> and dad's booth at the exhibition. And they all remember her! I have to
> wonder whether any other area of businesses could contain so many
> families. It is lovely to have a face behind names like Axner, and Ward,
> and all those others I used to think were just tools or kilns.. not to
> mention the authors walking around.
>
> (Speaking of "exhibition" I also got a signed Soldner poster and a
> claymates calendar..)
>
> I learned in the Kinsey Institute lecture that erotic ceramics were
> confiscated by the government if shipped to the USA... to me, a
> frightening reminder of how fragile personal liberties can be... Still
> wondering whether some of those phallic ceramics were decorative or
> functional ;0>
>
> You know how an excited puppy just wiggles all over with sheer joy? I
> learned that our Marta with her charming accent was like a little kid at
> NCECA, excited and happy and truly in love with everybody... must be a
> redhead thing ;0)
>
> I learned that "rathskellar" means really good beer and sausage.. and
> that sometimes you get the giggles and can't quit..
>
> I learned from V.S. Ramachandran that our brains are an intricate,
> mysterious, fascinating link to creativity and the dance of the senses
> and perceptions.
>
> I learned that some people can take highly intimidating, complex issues
> like brain structure and function -- or in Louis Katz's case, glaze
> chemistry -- and make it unintimidating, accessible, even humorous..
> while others can take a notion like "thinking up new pots" and wrap it
> in endless, navel-gazing, brain numbing jargon. I learned that -- except
> in discussion of technique, or glazing, or firing -- I care a lot more
> about why and how I make pots than about why and how other people do.
>
> I learned that if you grin for three days straight your face starts to
> hurt.. but you still can't stop grinning.
>
> I learned that nobody has ever heard of Kelly Averill Savino but most
> people seem glad to meet primalmommy... years ago I joined clayart
> without changing my old ID from an attachment parenting list server and
> it seems to have stuck..
>
> I learned that Carla Flati looks like a younger, prettier Liza Minelli
> with a voice that carries through a crowded room - and she drinks some
> clear stuff that smells like licorice, makes your eyes water and has
> coffee beans floating in it.
>
> I learned that on a good day, between dinner time and party time, the
> whirlpool/hot tub at the hotel fills up with muscular young grad student
> types. Some of us (however middle aged and/or happily married) made a
> special point of stopping by to sit in the "beef stew" and enjoy the
> view ;0)
>
> I learned that if Paul Soldner can be happy and proud of his
> octogenarian physique, I can get over worrying about my 40-something,
> mother-of-3 bulges and just let it all hang out..
>
> I learned that it's a wonderful thing to dance in a writhing mass of
> clayart friends...
>
> I learned that Phil Poburka is a unique piece of work... besides being a
> truly vintage guy, from the glasses to the leather jacket to the stapler
> and cigar box that comprise his sales equipment - he is sincere and
> devoted to his tools, customers and business. Though I suspect his
> lifestyle is usually a bit reclusive, he had people in his face nonstop
> for the whole conference and handled it like a trooper. He would barely
> stop to eat a meal or take a break. I learned (from Phil) that beef is
> deadly, meat and dairy are terrible for your system.. but it's OK to
> live on Pall Malls and coffee all for most of the day and switch to
> rusty nails in the evening ;0) (Phil, it was an honor to meet you.) p.s.
> folks, Phil is also a "babe magnet"... he had more girls in his booth or
> at his table at the bar than Soldner did..
>
> I learned that David Hendley is just a walking fashion plate... his new
> "purse" you'd have to see to appreciate fully.. a vintage flute box with
> girlish lettering saying "the beatles are fab"...
>
> I learned that Merrie Boerner is a one woman party waiting to happen,
> and that if we spent a lot of time together we'd get in a lot of
> trouble.
>
> I learned that Lori Leary and Gail Dapogny and I make pretty good
> roomies.. three substantial women in two narrowish beds, each with
> suitcases and 500 pounds of posters and purchases, would have been a bit
> crowded if they hadn't been so much fun. After midnight everything we
> said was either brilliant or hilarious. I plan to write a highly
> intellectual article regarding the function of "gettability factor" in
> ceramic objects.
>
> I learned in the K-12 exhibit that art teachers are alive and well, and
> those adults who are getting complacent about making good work had
> better look back over their shoulders and see who is gaining on them!
>
> I learned that Ron Roy is a very smart man with a leprechaunish wit, and
> wonderful taste in food and wine... and that meticky Liz and I need to
> go ballooning together in France when we are old ladies...
>
> I learned that Arti's kick-ass pots feel as good in the hand as they
> look in the photos. Thanks, David, for bringing one for us to see... and
> Arti, if you're out there, we'll be looking for you next year.
>
> I learned that George Kokis who was my teacher in Eugene Oregon, is
> looking great...
>
> I learned that the women of clayart are a wonderful bunch - sisters all,
> ready with a hug and making some really amazing pottery... and that
> there is not enough time in the span of a conference to have dinner with
> all the people you meant to sit with. Andi, LP Skeen, the Dancing Viking
> Wench, other substantial women I had not met before -- along with my
> buds from former workshops I was so thrilled to see again.
>
> I learned that the potters who have most enhanced my learning and have
> extended their experience and advice to clayart were traveling
> surrounded by their students... and that their students were bright,
> promising potters already.
>
> I learned that Tony Clennel has these dreamy, sparkly blue, sensitive
> eyes -- and in person is much more of a "softie" than his
> posts/claytimes photo would indicate. Looking forward to meeting his
> better half one day.
>
> I learned that I am wound way too tight to spend much time watching
> potters make pots on a big screen at demos, even if they are brilliant
> potters. As much as I adored the day long demos at Phyllis's Functional
> Ceramics in Wooster, there were just too many other choices at NCECA and
> the best I could do was pop in and out of all of them.
>
> I learned that if you ever see a big bearded guy named Dave McBeth
> drinking out of a really nice cup, tell him how nice it is.. he just
> might whip one out of his pocket and hand it to you ;0)
>
> I learned that the Potter's Council is alive and well, planning new
> plans and making things happen... and Tim Frederich is as busy as a one
> armed paper hanger..
>
> I learned that it's easy to low-carb on vacation... even eating in
> restaurants and drinking a lot more beer than usual I lost a pound. OK,
> swimming and dancing helped...
>
> I learned that Mel is as good in print as he is in person... and truly a
> stud muffin these days, trim and healthy. Still a smarty pants though.
>
> I learned that hubby was able to shuttle kids to two swim lessons, a
> girl scout and a boy scout meeting, the homeschool co-op, kindermusik
> class and piano lessons with very few glitches.. but he can't imagine
> how I manage to homeschool, organize their chores and make meals (oh,
> and pots) when I spend half my life in the car. I think the kids have
> had their annual quota of nintendo and cartoons... but mama's home and
> it's back to work.
>
> The boys just did subtraction/regrouping practice, helping me pay my
> bills... we got down to $60 and still have to pay orthodontist,
> insurance and property taxes so tomorrow we'll be practicing working
> with negative numbers.
>
> Can't wait to see some pictures. There is a frightening array of digital
> cameras around these days, we can get caught doing lord knows what at
> any minute, and then it could end up on the internet. I might be willing
> to pay to suppress release of the dance-floor-viking-woman-arm-wrestling
> shot somebody took which i suspect may be unflattering ;0}
>
> Finally, I learned that I am nothing like the way folks pictured me on
> line.. less matronly, apparently, and shorter. (How does one write
> "taller"?)
>
> Pasta's boiling, gotta go make lunch.
>
> Yours, kelly
> back in Ohio
> Squirreling away my money for Baltimore
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Jennifer Boyer on mon 22 mar 04
Well here are my experiences:
Rikki is a great roomie, even if we had a bit of trouble settling down
for sleep. We needed Joyce's voice of authority saying LIGHTS OUT.
Maybe next year...like summer camp
I loved watching peoples' expressions when Wayne S told them he's
moving from Key West to northern Vermont. That guy has some common
sense!
Thanks to Linda B and Gregg L I know where the family will go to dinner
AND where to go for a nice hike in Ithaca for son Tim's 20th bday....
The good and bad of Ilene Mahler: I'm the proud recipient of her
AWESOME crystalline glaze cup at the exchange. The bad? She was a
little too gleeful in reporting how badly our UVM bball team was being
beat by her Uconn team in the NCAA finals on Thursday....... ;-)
Beginner crocheters are torture to watch even IF their banter is edgy.
Creative Industries actually has a taller base for my CI stool so I can
ditch the jerry rigged platform I have now.....
Brian Giffin says no, he doesn't have a solution for the one pot I
can't trim with the Grip. He says John Glick has the same problem, so
we'll both wait for Brian's solution... He did give me pointers on a
home made solution. I'll post a photo if it works.
Noone actually came to blows discussing civil unions in the Clayart room
Russel is awesome at unruly crowd control.....
Lisa Skeen is the queen if last minute solutions....
We need a potion to let us absorb more visual stimulation during NCECA.
My brain shut down WAY before the bus tour was over.
Do you think I dare buy Ramachandran's book? his speech was so
fascinating but the book may be too over-my-head. I'm going to try it
anyway...
I too lost a pound, but I lived on salad, fruit, oatmeal and trail
mix.....oh and mocha latte's : there was no line at the Westin
Starbucks only a block from the Marriott
I have some pix of the Clayart Room too.
Thanks to all the movers and shakers for organizing things so
seamlessly....
I wonder what the airport security guys thought of all those porcupine
quills...
Take Care
Jennifer who actually got a piece of Russel's Belgian Chocolate this
year....yummmm the BEST
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:16 PM, primalmommy wrote:
> Some stuff I learned at NCECA:
>
> I learned that really fancy hotels have an ever-changing, ever-smiling,
> handsome assortment of men in uniform standing in the doorway just to
> say "good morning!" or "good afternoon!" and inquire as to how they
> might be helpful. A person could get used to that.
>
************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
Kathie Wheater on mon 22 mar 04
This dancing viking wench learned what Fabienne had been saying all along.
The warmth and sharing of ideas face to face with clayarters is worth the trip
all on its own.
I learned that NCECA needs to be attended for at least 2 to 3 days to take in
the overwhelming amount of information and experience ( not the noon on friday
arrival until the band stops playing at 2pm)
I would have loved to have met more of you and will make a point of doing it next year.
One of my little Emma's birds died so I needed to return for the funeral. His temporary
tombstone is a piece of broken porcelain bisque plate with his name and date in
permanent marker.
I will continue to follow the advice of the knowledgeable and loveable Tom Buck.
He's an awsome date girls!
Mel, Joyce, you are both the salt of the earth. Your kindness brought tears to my eyes.
We know that life is beautiful and to be cherished.
Ken N. Wheaton is the town next to Glen Ellyn.
I'm Wheater. Loved sharing the laughter with you. It's one of my favorite things to do.
Parents need the comic relief. Carry on Mr. Mom! Your day is coming or has arrived.
Depends on how you look at it.
MR. Lewing, would have loved to talk with you more and will someday.
I Have a question on china paint brushing media.
David Hendley where did you get that suit?????? Loved it!
Paisley Lame' tux?
Kelly, when you can do 50lb curls, 20 push ups, run a mere 15 miles a week, and carry 150 lbs of squirming giggling children up 14 steps you will kick MY butt at arm wrestling.
You're more beautiful in person than I could have imagined. It shows in your writing.
Barbara, tell Charlie I love wearing the pen. Best writing utensil I've ever had.
Dolita, you are the icing. Would love to visit on one of our southern ventures if you'll
have us.
Carla Flati, I WILL make another cup. Have TO!
Chris B instructor from Illinois.I don't know if you are on clayart but appreciated your advice. Enjoyed dancing with you even if you did step on my foot! I thought I would be
one to step on you!
Lastly, I now know what happens when the sprinkler system blows out at 3am in the room above you and your on the 15th floor. Sheets of water come in the windows. The emergency alarm goes off and you squish thru your room and evacuate down the stairs, all 15 flights, to the lobby in your jammies 'til further notice.
Weird alarm! Weird experience!
I do SO love DRAMA
All in All very inspirational
Thanks to all
KathieW
a dancing, laughing, viking wench
p.s. Don Goodrich, You did talk to Kathie. At the dance! I think you programmed faye's
# into my phone! That was the Kathie! Was that you? Alpine Kiln frame? No brick?
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