Joyce Lee on sun 18 apr 04
More and more are not signing their posts to
Clayart. We get complaints all the time. We've
talked about this often through the years...... not
gonna beat that dead horse this time around.
Sign or I don't run them. Get cute about it if
you choose, but I'm spending too much time
checking to see if the post is legitimate.
Joyce
In the Mojave
Vince Pitelka on mon 19 apr 04
I have been on the road quite a bit over the last few weeks, and I did not
see the post from the person who threatened to leave the list rather than
sign their posts. I am a little perplexed by that. I mean, are we really
asking that much? Although I treasure this list and all its members, if
someone really leaves the list rather than being willing to make this little
change to their email practices out of respect for the moderator and the
list members, then I would consider it appropriate attrition from the list.
Some people just aren't willing to play by the rules.
Best wishes -
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft, Tennessee Technological University
Smithville TN 37166, 615/597-6801 x111
vpitelka@dtccom.net, wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
http://www.tntech.edu/craftcenter/
Susan Giddings on tue 20 apr 04
Steve,
I am so glad you said that! I grew up with e-mail and up until very recently
NEVER signed a message. Never felt the need to and certainly never gave it a
second thought when a message I received was not "signed". I never have
thought of e-mail as a written note, either. In the business world in which
I travel (mostly fellow programmers and systems people) it's rare to have
people sign e-mail. Actually considered a waste oif time and effort. Bad
form. Just not done. Pointless - right up front you know who is
sending/posting the message. Only end users sign. Oh heavens....can't have
people think you're one of "them".
But hanging around clayart, with spells of lurking for years, you quickly
see that the norm here is for people to sign. And I have always especially
enjoyed Joyce's. I think I have come to know her better from her sign-offs
than by anything in her e-mails. (Sorry Joyce - no offense implied or
intended - I just do thoroughly enjoy your sign-offs and read them
faithfully. I feel I know the Mojave quite well through you!) I think the
majority here feel that e-mail is a replacement for a handwritten note. Not
a terse "just the facts please" note or check-up. So knowing that I am so
apt to forget to do it because it is just not my habit, I just created a
signature file so that I am always 100% covered. I do usually end up
"signing" ahead of this - typically just an "S", but if I omit that, the
signature file has me covered. No problem. And most importantly no one is
offended by my form - at least I sure hope not. I have also added a favorite
quote of mine from Picasso. Good thing I only use this e-mail account for
Clayart - the other circles I travel in would consider me less than human
(an end-user). So different guidelines for different groups. Big deal. I can
manage.
And of course, the most important reason of all: the moderators have asked
for it.
Period.
The End.
End of story.
>From: Steve Slatin
>And in a telephone call you identify yourself at the beginning, and
>customarily not at the end. And, of course, an e-mail is identified in the
>"FROM:" entry at the top, which is why most folks who grew up with e-mail
>don't sign at the bottom, but those for whom an e-mail is a substitute for
>a written note usually consider it rude not to sign at the end.
S
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Susan Giddings
"There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot, but there are
others who, thanks to their art and intelligence, transform a yellow spot
into the sun." — Pablo Picasso
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 20 apr 04
Hi Susan,
Funny...
From the onset, I had allways supposed 'e-mail' to be a
'virtual' written Note, or Letter...
And I was, from-the-onset appauled at the sloppyness or
confused appearances of so many missives I would recieve.
I thought, an 'e-mail' to rightly enjoy the same deferences
to the recipient, of having a salutation and a close as
includes one's first name at least for one's familiars, and
one's full name for one's not-so-familiars...as would any
other Letter one may write...whether 'typed' or cursive.
Maybe it is a 'generation' thing?...but then, my generation
had none but the rare incidence of Penmanship or
co-respondence manners anyway, and the one before that
forgot most of theirs...so maybe it is a generation thing as
is atavistic?...or maybe it is just whatever makes 'sense'
to whomever's transfered experience or view of the matter
recommends one thing or another...
Seemed common sense to me...that it is a virtual 'Letter'...
Oh well,
Virtually yours, regardless,
And warmly, amusedly, electronically...
Phil
The Meadows...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Giddings"
> Steve,
> I am so glad you said that! I grew up with e-mail and up
until very recently
> NEVER signed a message. Never felt the need to and
certainly never gave it a
> second thought when a message I received was not "signed".
I never have
> thought of e-mail as a written note, either. In the
business world in which
> I travel (mostly fellow programmers and systems people)
it's rare to have
> people sign e-mail. Actually considered a waste oif time
and effort. Bad
> form. Just not done. Pointless - right up front you know
who is
> sending/posting the message. Only end users sign. Oh
heavens....can't have
> people think you're one of "them".
>
> But hanging around clayart, with spells of lurking for
years, you quickly
> see that the norm here is for people to sign. And I have
always especially
> enjoyed Joyce's. I think I have come to know her better
from her sign-offs
> than by anything in her e-mails. (Sorry Joyce - no offense
implied or
> intended - I just do thoroughly enjoy your sign-offs and
read them
> faithfully. I feel I know the Mojave quite well through
you!) I think the
> majority here feel that e-mail is a replacement for a
handwritten note. Not
> a terse "just the facts please" note or check-up. So
knowing that I am so
> apt to forget to do it because it is just not my habit, I
just created a
> signature file so that I am always 100% covered. I do
usually end up
> "signing" ahead of this - typically just an "S", but if I
omit that, the
> signature file has me covered. No problem. And most
importantly no one is
> offended by my form - at least I sure hope not. I have
also added a favorite
> quote of mine from Picasso. Good thing I only use this
e-mail account for
> Clayart - the other circles I travel in would consider me
less than human
> (an end-user). So different guidelines for different
groups. Big deal. I can
> manage.
>
> And of course, the most important reason of all: the
moderators have asked
> for it.
>
> Period.
> The End.
> End of story.
Veena Raghavan on sat 16 sep 06
Hi folks,
I have noticed more names on Clayart posts. I don't know if this is a
coincidence, or if anyone is harking to my plea for full names at the ends of posts,
so one can identify the sender. In either case, thank you all.
Veena
Veena Raghavan in Virginia
Digital Studio on wed 20 feb 08
I know that my posts are always signed because I made a signature. I
don't have to type my website, name, or phone number each time. For
people using Firefox's Thunderbird email client, you first make a file
in Wordpad, and write your name, email, etc. Then, go to Tools>Account
Settings>Attach This Signature. Find the file. The file can't be
deleted, so put it somewhere where you won't delete it by accident.
For people using Outlook Express, Tools> Options> Signatures> New. Fill
in your information and save it.
For anyone else using online clients to send and receive emails, you can
look under the help section of the online client to find instructions to
set up a signature.
Hope this helps someone!
Kendra Bogert
www.digital-studio.biz
641-208-6253
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