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glasses or contacts? or laser!

updated tue 27 apr 04

 

Mildred Herot on wed 21 apr 04


Hi Wayne: My doctor once told me that the if there is an error in laser
surgery, it cannot be fixed. This was a long time ago and perhaps things
have changed but I would be very leery of it and would check all my options
first. To digress: we have a time share in Marathon and will probably head
down to Key West once or twice. Are there some special places to check out?
Any info. will be greatly appreciated.....Mildred Herot
----- Original Message -----
From: "wayneinkeywest"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Glasses or contacts? or LASER!


> Regarding the laser technique. Since I am no longer what
> anyone should consider "young" I spoke to my doctor about
> having the Lasix (brand name?) done "should I need it in the
> future." Doc assures me it's safe, having done "thousands
> without a complication".
>
> Then he mentioned an interesting fact; that the surgery corrects one
> eye for near vision, and one eye for far vision. He said that
> the brain very quickly learns to sort it out, and one can see
> both near and far almost immediately.
> Hell, I can see both near and far almost immediately now
> "Is that a big green road sign, or bird poop on the windshield?"
>
> Does anyone know if this is the case?
> Or if there are different versions of the same surgery (laser)?
> Having one eye near and one far _might_ be an advantage,
> (such as driving/hunting trimming pots/reading),
> but what if one loses sight of one eye? Can the remaining
> eye then be corrected _again_? Hmmmmm.
>
> Wayne Seidl
> Key West, Florida, USA
> North America, Terra
> Latitude 81.8, Longitude 24.4
> Elevation 3.1 feet (1m)
>
>
> > The only thing... after a life-time of near-sightedness, it was
> somewhat of
> > an adjustment to suddenly lose the close-up clarity I'd always
> depended on.
> > Gaining distance-vision comes with loss of near-vision, so
> 'cheater' specs
> > are now necessary for trimming/detail work, but believe me the
> trade-off is
> > well worth it.
>
>
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Simona Drentea on wed 21 apr 04


Wayne in Key West writes:

<eye for near vision, and one eye for far vision. He said that
the brain very quickly learns to sort it out, and one can see
both near and far almost immediately.

Does anyone know if this is the case?
Or if there are different versions of the same surgery (laser)? >>

Wayne, it can be done this way, though I wouldn't say it's the standard. It
is done fairly often for those who are a bit older & are concerned about
presbyopia (sp?) coming sooner rather than later. Also, for this scenario,
sometimes only 1 eye needs to be corrected. Both my husband & I have had Lasik & are
very happy, but neither of us have had the 1 eye near, 1 eye far correction.
I have talked to people who have had it & they did adjust quickly.

Simona in very cold Colorado

Kathy Forer on thu 22 apr 04


On Apr 21, 2004, at 3:16 PM, wayneinkeywest wrote:

> Does anyone know if this is the case?
> Or if there are different versions of the same surgery (laser)?
> Having one eye near and one far _might_ be an advantage,
> (such as driving/hunting trimming pots/reading),
> but what if one loses sight of one eye? Can the remaining
> eye then be corrected _again_? Hmmmmm.

I don't know about the Lasix or other techniques, but my two eyes are
naturally of the sort described, one near-sighted, the other far. I
also have a lazy eye, the far-sighted right one, but did enough vision
exercises as a kid to be able to correct it at will, assuming the will
is willing. Double-vision is a symptom of having lazy eye, but I think
it's also related to the different focal lengths and so may well be a
result and not a lateral defect
.

I frequently see double when I read late at night, probably as I'm
relying so much more on one eye so the other one wanders.

I'm not shifty-eyed or anything, but I tend not to look long at
anything straight on unless I'm staring, my eyes will need to move
around and renew their focus, even in a movie. It's unlikely that
surgery would replicate this affect, especially as there would be no
amblyopia, but there may be a similar roaming search for two-eyed
focus.


Kathy
............
Kathy Forer
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S. Morris on thu 22 apr 04


granted my mother never went under the lazer, she did
get mono vision contact lences, and has been happy
with them. They operate in a similar fashion as mono
lasik surgery where one eye is for near and the other
is for far, and she said the ajustment in having two
different lenses was very quick.

-Steph M.




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Kathy Forer on thu 22 apr 04


p.s. I probably meant strabismus, not ambylopia, though it's confusing,
as what I had was always called "lazy eye." But, now, reading about it,
it seems ambylopia aka lazy eye is a diminution of vision, which
doesn't seem quite right.

Whichever name the other thing is, having different focal lengths can
be very interesting!

Kathy
............
Kathy Forer
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Catherine Yassin on thu 22 apr 04


In a message dated 4/22/2004 1:19:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
milhero@COMCAST.NET writes:

> My doctor once told me that the if there is an error in laser
> surgery, it cannot be fixed. This was a long time ago and perhaps things
> have changed but I would be very leery of it and would check all my options
> first.

Mildred, if you are talking about a doctor error, yes, sometimes they can be
corrected. Here is a site that talks about that:
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/health/WABC_oncall_100702eyesurgery.html

But if you are talking about an error in calculating the "prescription" that
can be fixed too. My doctor recommends the CustomView technology which takes
"A WaveScan measurement will be taken to map the unique characteristics of
your vision. " this information is programmed into the Laser Computer and it does
all the work according to the WaveScan. What is included in the total price
are pre-surgery visits and post surgery visits AND any correction that needs to
be done in the following year. Not bad, huh?
http://personalbestvision.com/patients/

-Cat Yassin

Lezlie Finet on thu 22 apr 04


Wayneinkeywest - Funny you should mention it... it's called MonoVision.
And I'm scheduled for it next month, having one of my eyes 'enhanced', as
they euphemistically term it. Meaning that I'm having it re-done.

Unfortunately, even laser correction doesn't arrest the normal
aging/deterioration of one's eyesight, especially for a severe Myope such
as myself, and since it's been 6+ years since the first procedure, I'm
experiencing some loss of the initial 20/20 vision I'd enjoyed.

But rather than do both eyes again, I'm gonna have just my right/dominant
eye corrected, so my left eye can do my reading/close work, and my right
eye can drive.
;-O
It's simple for your Doc to test in advance to see if your eyes would be
adaptable to the mono-vision technique, by just correcting one eye with a
soft contact lens for a few days. Most people's brains really do compensate
and make the adjustment, but it doesn't work for everyone, is my
understanding.

There's lots of info on the PRK and the newer LASIK method on the
internet... it's fascinating stuff.

Good luck!
Lezlie Finet
Spokane, Washington (the REAL one)

Simona Drentea on fri 23 apr 04


In a message dated 04/23/2004 7:42:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
thalelia@YAHOO.COM writes:
she did get mono vision contact lences, and has been happy
with them. They operate in a similar fashion as mono
lasik surgery where one eye is for near and the other
is for far
This reminds me...if you are considering Lasik & go to a reputable doctor
(not one of those cheap cheap laser centers), the dr will often give you contacts
to try out that will simulate different things, like mono vision or in my
case, I had very large pupils & they thought I might get halos at night, so they
gave me contacts to try for a few weeks that would simulate what my night
vision would be like.

Simona in snowy Colorado

Roly Beevor on mon 26 apr 04


I had Lasik (monovision) done on Friday. I'm 45 (don't spread it around)
and my corneas were good and thick so I don't think I was a difficult
patient. I was short sighted, more so in the left eye, and have worn
glasses since childhood. Today (Monday) I'm back at work, finding the
computer a bit hard on my eyes, but otherwise feeling good. The messages
keep jumping up and down, no that's not my eyes, its the same messages
getting delivered again; I've got them four times this morning, is this a
record? The worst thing is they have you wear plastic shields over your eyes
at night (rubbing your eyes is banned for a fortnight), does nothing for
ones sex appeal.

I did one of those little jobs yesterday with an angle grinder (making a spy
hole in an oil drum kiln, just to keep on topic). I would have had to have
worn safety goggles over my glasses. Then taken off the googles and glasses
to see whether the job was OK, and put them back to carry on. If this is
the only benefit it is worth the discomfort (actually it is the strangeness
of the experience that is disconcerting, it is less uncomfortable than
having teeth done).

My family are thrilled that I won't be jumping about in the morning trying
to find my specs before work, but this morning it was sunny, could I find my
sunglasses?

Cheers
Roly

Enjoying the sunshine in Geordieland; the swallows are back, but with my
wonder vision I am also sadly aware that there is a blue tit making a nest
in the upstairs toilet vent, can anyone advise how I persuade it to move
house? I may have a Havana cigar after my Spanish omlette and French fried
potatoes this evening, no, I really think we should keep politics off the
list.