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buying ifb bricks

updated thu 29 apr 04

 

Earl Krueger on sun 25 apr 04


The local pottery supply place wants $3+ for K23
bricks. OUCH!!!

I have no experience dealing with industrial suppliers
so if I asked them for a quote on 500 bricks would they
ignore me because I was not worth the trouble or
would I be able to get a better price?

Wondering how Ivor's coming along with his
meringue brick idea?

Earl K...
Bothell, WA, USA

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 25 apr 04


Hi Earl,


If there is an Industrial supplier of these kinds of Bricks
near enough for you to go to, you could consider to simply
go there and see if intuition may lead you to have a
conversation with the operatively 'right' boy or girl. Try
the back of the place, or the side or something...wander a
little...admire it all...talk to several people, get the
tour of it and see, find out about what-all kinds of Bricks
they make...it might be interesting!


Tell them you 'only' need, or 'just' need "500" or whatever
it is, and intend to return with a little Trailer or Truck
or something if you do not have one with you already...and,
what ideas do they have to solve it? - to solve you getting
such a little amount and all? A little bunch as you know is
not even worth their while to deal with at all, nor worth
while doin' tiresome paperwork on and so forth.

And...well, feel it out...see what can be done. Tell them
you are a Potter...and Bring a few Pots to show them too...

Sometimes one can work something out as is fun for all...and
as is 'workable'.

Believe me, they get a mite bored with their usual routines
too...like anyone else...and likely they do not often meet a
live customer nor one who can make things fun...

Who knows, maybe there is something you can do for them?

Do a trade even...



Phil
le ev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Krueger"

> The local pottery supply place wants $3+ for K23
> bricks. OUCH!!!
>
> I have no experience dealing with industrial suppliers
> so if I asked them for a quote on 500 bricks would they
> ignore me because I was not worth the trouble or
> would I be able to get a better price?
>
> Wondering how Ivor's coming along with his
> meringue brick idea?
>
> Earl K...
> Bothell, WA, USA

Jennifer Boyer on sun 25 apr 04


This "industrial supplier" might be found in the yellow pages under
"boiler repair" or "refractories". They carry all sorts of refractory
stuff.

Jennifer, remembering fondly when there was one of these right in our
town...they carried bagged clay as a sideline.... boy were we spoiled,
although I did break the springs on our 1972 Toyota Land
Cruiser.....they went our of business and now everything I buy is
shipped in.

On Apr 25, 2004, at 2:49 PM, pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:

> Hi Earl,
>
>
> If there is an Industrial supplier of these kinds of Bricks
> near enough for you to go to, you could consider to simply
> go there and see if intuition may lead you to have a
> conversation with the operatively 'right' boy or girl. Try
> the back of the place, or the side or something...wander a
> little...admire it all...talk to several people, get the
> tour of it and see, find out about what-all kinds of Bricks
> they make...it might be interesting!
>
>
> Tell them you 'only' need, or 'just' need "500" or whatever
> it is, and intend to return with a little Trailer or Truck
> or something if you do not have one with you already...and,
> what ideas do they have to solve it? - to solve you getting
> such a little amount and all? A little bunch as you know is
> not even worth their while to deal with at all, nor worth
> while doin' tiresome paperwork on and so forth.
>
> And...well, feel it out...see what can be done. Tell them
> you are a Potter...and Bring a few Pots to show them too...
>
> Sometimes one can work something out as is fun for all...and
> as is 'workable'.
>
> Believe me, they get a mite bored with their usual routines
> too...like anyone else...and likely they do not often meet a
> live customer nor one who can make things fun...
>
> Who knows, maybe there is something you can do for them?
>
> Do a trade even...
>
>
>
> Phil
> le ev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Earl Krueger"
>
>> The local pottery supply place wants $3+ for K23
>> bricks. OUCH!!!
>>
>> I have no experience dealing with industrial suppliers
>> so if I asked them for a quote on 500 bricks would they
>> ignore me because I was not worth the trouble or
>> would I be able to get a better price?
>>
>> Wondering how Ivor's coming along with his
>> meringue brick idea?
>>
>> Earl K...
>> Bothell, WA, USA
>
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John Baymore on tue 27 apr 04



I have no experience dealing with industrial suppliers
so if I asked them for a quote on 500 bricks would they
ignore me because I was not worth the trouble or
would I be able to get a better price?


Earl,

As a professional kiln builder, I ONLY order refractories from
manufacturers or their distributors directly. The "ceramic supplers" are=
a
thrid level of "middlemen" in the sales chain........ and of course want =
to
make a few cents for their trouble.
Which IS fair. But if you are looking to save a few bucks........ this=

is the way to go. But don't expect the industrial supplier to be able to=

answer questions about a Minnesota Flat Top or a catenary arch style
kiln........ they aren't used to dealing with them. They CAN give you
wonderful information with far more detail than pottery supply houses
do........ but it is often dealing with more sophisticated issues than mo=
st
potters really want to know about .
Also PLEASE don't use up the "ceramic suppliers" time by asking THEM al=
l
the kiln building questions..... and then go to the industrial type
distributor to save a few bucks on the materials. What's fair is fair >.


I have found that every different "industrial" supplier that I have dealt=

with has been interested in the "little" order too. They all add up in
their overall cash flow . You won't typically get as good a price
buying 1000 bricks as a project that is buying 10,000 bricks will.......
but it still will likely beat the "ceramic supplier's" price
. Don't forget however to factor in the trucking delivery. Some
industrial purchases do NOT include the shipping charges. =


best,

......................john

John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
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Wilton, NH 03086-5812 USA

JBaymore@compuserve.com
http://www.JohnBaymore.com

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