Eleanora Eden on tue 27 apr 04
Hi Fred and all,
I'm not sure what Fred used but I use my kaowool paper over and over
again. Yes, it loses its "starch" after first firing and gets
progressively more fragile as continually used. But I just carefully
remove it onto a special board, or roll up a big piece, and save it for as
long as possible. I have a small roll and hope to never have to shop for
it again.
At that time I was talking about this on clayart alot. There is a glass
supplier near Chicago, Ed Hoy's International, 800-323-5668, that
sells "thinfire shelf paper" .008" a 250 foot roll for 319.00 in 1997
catalog I have. They list it for 4.25 per sheet as well. They also list
1/8" and 1/32" stuff. My advice would be for somebody who wants this stuff
to organize a clayart buying pool and share a roll. I just called them to
find out width of roll for you it is 41" so that is a VERY GOOD
DEAL!!!!! Making that phone call reminded me that this is a hard-nosed
operation about getting past go so be armed with your biz voice and info
when you call. (That's 854 sq ft for 319.=37c/sq ft. More like it, huh?
Eleanora
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At 01:59 PM 4/21/04 -0700, you wrote:
>>Is this the same Kaowool paper that's
>>used in glass-fusing, or different?
>>
>> -Snail
>I think it is different. I bought some of that glass fusing paper and
>it burns out at cone 04 leaving sort of an ashy deposit.
>We use the real Kaowool paper in the Tozan noborigama at cone 11.
>It is used when it is difficult to wad certain pots. It is so
>expensive that we cut it up into tiny pieces like 1 inch square. It
>is a one time use as the firing burns out all the starch and it gets
>too weak to handle.
>Fred
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wayneinkeywest on tue 27 apr 04
Ok--- Stupid newbie question time...
Couldn't one just pick up a can of spray starch
(which, at least in this part of the country (US)
is still available in just about every grocery store)
and spray the sheet once it is removed from the kiln?
That would definitely stiffen it again...better than that
Viagrada stuff the Mayor seems so fond of :>)
The starch would burn off in the next firing of course,
but at roughly $2.79 (US) a can, it seems cheaper than
Kaowool paper.
You can get a lot of use out of one can (don't go there!)
Wayne Seidl
Key West, Florida, USA
North America, Terra
Latitude 81.8, Longitude 24.4
Elevation 3.1 feet (1m)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanora Eden"
Subject: Re: Kaowool Ceramic Paper Source
> Hi Fred and all,
>
> I'm not sure what Fred used but I use my kaowool paper over and
over
> again. Yes, it loses its "starch" after first firing and gets
> progressively more fragile as continually used. But I just
carefully
> remove it onto a special board, or roll up a big piece, and save
it for as
> long as possible. I have a small roll and hope to never have to
shop for
> it again.
snip
Jim V Brooks on tue 27 apr 04
The kaowool paper i have used for glass will not fire high enough for clay
work.. Is this something different or new? What are the temp limits on the
kaowool being discussed?
Thanks Jim in Denton
Bruce Girrell on tue 27 apr 04
> The kaowool paper i have used for glass will not fire high enough for clay
> work.. Is this something different or new? What are the temp limits on
the
> kaowool being discussed?
Try this:
http://www.thermalceramics.com/upload/pdf/514-806.pdf
Bruce "looks like handy stuff" Girrell
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