pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 4 may 04
Hi Lee, Wayne,
Yes...quite so.
Whether or not to suppose the term 'art' to find yet further
ways of removeing from Life, the things people may do...the
old Japanese had taken Carpentry and Building making, to
about the greatest heights of formal deference and
attentions, as honored intuition, reason, integrated
sensibility, and sound pragmatics, that any peoples of the
World have ever done or will do.
I do not believe it could be said they were ever surpassed
in any of it, nor in the underlieing thoroughness and
dedication to otherwise neglected dimensions of the
occupations and results.
The American Shakers, in their hay-day, come to my mind as a
honest 'next' in line, as for deferences paid in the whole
of their Work of Carpentry and Building making, and, it is
not a close 'next', but is damned fine...and but none else
can I think of, are as close, or closer.
From there 'third' is a long ways down...as far as cultures
of whom I have a little familiarity...or sub-cultures as may
be.
Whilst individual works of genious were or are done...there
is no easy attribution there, as there is for a known or
identifiable group...
Phil
el ve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Love"
> wayneinkeywest wrote:
>
> >"No, I'm an artist. A builder works with his hands.
> >A craftsman works with his hands and his head.
> >An artist works with his hands, his head, and his heart."
> >
>
> Wayne, what did his work look like? Traditional
carpentry here in
> Japan is very much an art and a craft.
>
> --
> in Mashiko, Japan
wayneinkeywest on tue 4 may 04
At the risk of stirring up the hornet's nest yet again...
I had a rare few moments to spend with my partner, who
was watching one of those "Monster House" programs.
I happened along when one of the carpenters on the
project was being asked a question. His reply was profound...
"Do you consider yourself to be a builder or a craftsman?"
"No, I'm an artist. A builder works with his hands.
A craftsman works with his hands and his head.
An artist works with his hands, his head, and his heart."
Thought I'd pass that along. Pretty well sums it up for me.
Wayne Seidl
Key West, Florida, USA
North America, Terra
Latitude 81.8, Longitude 24.4
Elevation 3.1 feet (1m)
Kathy Forer on tue 4 may 04
Can't resist jumping in...
A craftsman is someone who supports a studio by selling teacups,
platters, vases and broken tiles. An artists supports a studio by
working the night desk at notel motel, proofreading, photographing
accidents, painting decorative molding or printing highway signs.
But I like your Monster House carpenter's answer much better.
Kathy, somewhere in NJ
On May 4, 2004, at 8:10 AM, wayneinkeywest wrote:
> "Do you consider yourself to be a builder or a craftsman?"
>
> "No, I'm an artist. A builder works with his hands.
> A craftsman works with his hands and his head.
> An artist works with his hands, his head, and his heart."
William Sheppard on tue 4 may 04
Wayne, (fellow Floridian)
I have had a copy of this qoute hanging in my studio for a few years.
My copy claims the quote was originaly from Francis of Assissi.
Whenever I read it, I try to remember that it takes all three,
hands,head and heart to really be doing it right. When things really get
hectic it is so easy to get the hands part going and tend to forget about
the head and heart parts. GOT TO SLOW DOWN. Keep it all togeather.
Thanking my Grandmother and Aunt for keeping it all togeather for so
many years so I can have fun now.
William A. Sheppard V.
www.patyoungceramicarts.com
St. Petersburg, Florida
Lee Love on wed 5 may 04
wayneinkeywest wrote:
>"No, I'm an artist. A builder works with his hands.
>A craftsman works with his hands and his head.
>An artist works with his hands, his head, and his heart."
>
Wayne, what did his work look like? Traditional carpentry here in
Japan is very much an art and a craft.
--
in Mashiko, Japan http://mashiko.org
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Pat Southwood on sun 9 may 04
Hi List,
Re the above post, does anyone have any good Japanese craftsman woodwork =
sites? Trad or modern.
I have a Potter/boatbuilding friend that would be most intererested.
Many thanks.
Pat
Mike Martino on mon 10 may 04
Hi Pat,
Try the following. This guy does beautiful work.
http://www.sonic.net/~kiarts/
Mike
in Taku
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Pat Southwood
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:44 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: builder/craftsman/artist
Hi List,
Re the above post, does anyone have any good Japanese craftsman woodwork
sites? Trad or modern.
I have a Potter/boatbuilding friend that would be most intererested.
Many thanks.
Pat
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