mel jacobson on tue 4 may 04
yes, the most discussed topic of all
gas firing or wood firing potters.
shino.
more time is wasted talking about shino
than any other topic.
let us get back to `mother in law blue`.
i think `acid ass` is a result of using too
much `mother in law blue`.
many have the affliction. it will self heal if
left alone. i know.
shino.
in my research for the article `black shino` for cm
my historic mentors refer to shino as the first white
glaze made.
it was a glaze made of a local feldspar with a bit of ash added for flux.
this was from kiln sites around mino, japan/ near seto.
the glaze evolved over many years to the present state
which if seen by westerners you would never think it was
shino. it is pure white, very thick, and has, often, large, very
large pin holes and crawling. it does not like staying on the pot.
of course it was a favorite of tea masters. very loppy.
american, carbon trap shino is a horse of a different breed
and color. we need not labor this point any longer.
i was in hopes that tony would name his glaze...`canadian shino`
a variation on a 75,000 recipe theme. he could start a new
movement. amazing how many ideas there are for a simple
glaze. names til the end of time. and, basically the same
recipe. (idea, really)
idea one:
tony's glaze
two:
sheilla's glaze
three:
dog's glaze
four:
cat's glaze and on and on and on.
same recipe, new names.
mel
oh how one learns that firing practice and clay body affect
glaze. shino is a great teacher. same recipe/4,000 different
pots.
From:
Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Richard Aerni on tue 4 may 04
On Tue, 4 May 2004 04:50:30 -0500, mel jacobson wrote:
>yes, the most discussed topic of all
>gas firing or wood firing potters.
>shino.
My take on the above...
This is true of potters who use and fire shino...they are not all the
potters in the universe.
I just came back from a clay only weekend show of 25+ potters...one of the
Karen Karnes' shows...had one brief mention of shino during the whole three
days, and that was from a clayarter who will be in the Malcolm Davis
curated Shino show at Baltimore NCECA next year. Lots of wood-firing
potters there, gas-firing potters there, no shino conversations. Politics,
food, drink, all kind of technical talk, firing, glazes, kilns, studios,
practical jokes, laughter, pissing and moaning yes....shino, no.
Just my thoughts...
Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY
Ivor and Olive Lewis on wed 5 may 04
I go along with Mel on this one.
Big question is"What are we talking about anyway ?"
Looked for a definition in three ceramic dictionaries. Not a squeak
about the stuff.
So back to square one and a look through "Clays and Glazes for the
Potter" by Dear Dan Rhodes. Explains it all in four lines,. One
describes its appearance, two define its deficiencies and the last
confirms its history and function. Reads like "good oil" to me.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
Stephen on wed 5 may 04
This is a little wierd,
A freind of mine, Jon Brinley, was requesting a "shino" glaze I use in wood
firing for some of the pots he is firing with me and I kind of laughed. I
didn't realize there was this weirdness about shino now, but I commented to
him that shino was like what raku was when it was first popular in america
or rather , among westerners, and pointed to several pots on several
posters in the college studio we were in at the time, with shino or shino
like looks. It is kind of a whole different thing now.
Stephen
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