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apprenticeship?..... good..... required?..... phhhhhhhtttt

updated mon 10 may 04


Joyce Lee on wed 5 may 04

One of the beautiful aspects of being a potter
is being able to work as I see fit. I've been
licensed, tenured and degreed up the gump
stump. In education, dealing with other people's
children, offering a comprehensive, compatible
curriculum state wide makes tremendous sense
from many angles (I wish it were nationwide,
personally). =20

BUT for pottery where the individual studio
potter continues to be the backbone of the
potting world ..... where we celebrate our
differences .... ?????? ohhh, I have a lot
more to say but am now on the way to the
Vomit Comet heading to Kentucky for a
brief time.

In the Mojave where she is overwhelmed at such
comments..... sounds as if they're right from=20
the mouths of too many ceramics professors
who thing the collegiate forum is the only one
that counts..... is a license now to replace the
degree? When one achieves an MBA in ceramics,
does one then need to apprentice before daring
to open one's own studio? We know
that the art of clay is emphasized in many
art departments (nerve of them! treating clay
as art! in an art department yet! duh), and that
pots are not considered to be art. Gotta get=20
out of here...... I'll collect my thoughts on the
trip ....=20

Roly Beevor on thu 6 may 04


You refer to a post about a worldwide apprenticeship system with a common
standard (which I can't find). I don't have a particular view on the
subject but it interest you (and the original writer) to know that in UK we
have a system called NVQ (national vocational qualification) which, in
principle, allows recognition of achievement in any activity, at grades
which parallel academic qualifications. So a trainee in a pottery can get a
certificate to show practical and business competence in studio pottery
which may come after academic training.
See for a case in

Roly Beevor

Ivor and Olive Lewis on sun 9 may 04

Dear Roly,
A site which seems be a who's who of British studio pottery today.
I found the background of John Leech's studio interesting. Look at
the shape of the clay in waiting! Significant?
Thanks for putting this up for inspection.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia