Lou Roess on thu 6 may 04
I've checked the archives on photographing pottery with a graduated
background and still can't figure out how to do plates. With a bowl you set
it on the paper and light it and take a picture. How do you prop a plate up
to take its picture? Is it OK to use a plate holder or do you prop it
against the back wall? How do you keep it from sliding down on the vinyl
surface which may damage that surface? A lot of my work is plates, and I'm
just getting started in photographing them, so would appreciate any
techniques that Clayarters have found work.
Best regards, Lou in Colorado
Kenneth J. Nowicki on thu 6 may 04
Hello Lou,
In my opinion, NO... it is not okay to use a plate holder when photographing
plates and platters that are to be presented in a professional manner (i.e. -
for juries, galleries, publications, marketing materials, museums,
exhibitions, etc., etc.). I think they look "tacky"... period.
One way to prop a plate up while taking a picture is pretty simple. Use a
bean bag, or sand bag... or if you can't find one or have one sewn yourself... an
easy alternative is to fill a quart size Zip-Loc bag with sand. Use several
if needed. The key here is to MAKE SURE that it is not seen AT ALL by the
camera's lens.
As far as keeping the plate or platter from sliding down while propping it
up... get a hold of some "museum wax"... mold it into a small ball (pea size or
less works for me)... and stick it on the back side of the rim that touches
the background (paper, Formica, or whatever you're using). Again... MAKE SURE
that the camera's lens does not see this either! This will hold your platter or
plate long enough to get your shots in and will give your fabulous
professional results... without the use of a tacky looking plate holder. If you are using
a paper backdrop, just be sure that you use a little extra care when removing
the plate or platter, so as not to scar the paper surface is all. I've never
had a problem with it myself.
In the spirit of the recent thread about giving credit where credit is due...
I must add that I learned these photography techniques from my mentor, Lana
Wilson. She's the best!
When I lived in Southern California, I know that the hardware stores carried
this stuff in the section for "Earthquake Preparedness"... and one of the
companies that marketed it called it "Quake Hold". But I am sure you can find it
just about anywhere if you look. It's used to keep fragile items from being
moved or falling off of displays... and it doesn't take much. It's like a
moldable putty material.
Best wishes and let us know how your results end up. :-)
- Ken
Kenneth J. Nowicki
Port Washington, NY
RakuArtist@aol.com
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In a message dated 05/06/04, lrr@BMESA.COM writes:
I've checked the archives on photographing pottery with a graduated
background and still can't figure out how to do plates. With a bowl you set
it on the paper and light it and take a picture. How do you prop a plate up
to take its picture? Is it OK to use a plate holder or do you prop it
against the back wall? How do you keep it from sliding down on the vinyl
surface which may damage that surface? A lot of my work is plates, and I'm
just getting started in photographing them, so would appreciate any
techniques that Clayarters have found work.
Best regards, Lou in Colorado
Kathi LeSueur on thu 6 may 04
lrr@BMESA.COM wrote:
>I've checked the archives on photographing pottery with a graduated
>background and still can't figure out how to do plates. With a bowl you set
>it on the paper and light it and take a picture. How do you prop a plate up
>to take its picture? Is it OK to use a plate holder or do you prop it
>against the back wall? How do you keep it from sliding down on the vinyl
>surface which may damage that surface?>>
>
I use a couple brick behind the plate and prop it up against the bricks.
You can get museum putty at most hardware stores ( it's used to adher an
object so that someone bumping up against a case doesn't jar the piece
{also used in earthquake prone areas}) on the back of the plate to help
keep it in place.
Kathi
>
>
>
Concepts in Clay on thu 6 may 04
Lou
Another way to photograph a plate is to put it on your background material on
the floor and use a short step ladder to shoot it. I find that leaning a
plate against something can sometimes change the perspective, a bit like an
optical illusion.
Bobbi in Carlisle, PA
My life is full of mistakes. They're like pebbles that make a good road...
Beatrice Wood
Cat Jarosz on thu 6 may 04
I have not read any of the replys to this one yet so may end up xing this
email before its sent but wanted to try helping some incase this idea has not
been used yet... heavy platters are photographed using a full gallon
paint can with tape attached so it holds the plate upright and doesn't show at
all... with smaller items that a gallon can would be too big for I suppose any
smaller amount can would do.. hope this helps some, Cat Jarosz in
glorious Azalea surround mnts of NC USA !!!
V)''(V & >^..^< Chicks with beards rule !!!
(_o_)
\||/ ps this is typewriter art of a airedale and a cat !!!! I can do
a fish too
ok I read the answers aol graces my screen with and no one mentioned paint
cans and tape.. just masking tape that is double folded so one part sticks to
the paint can and one part sticks to the platter/ plate... works great...
Ivor and Olive Lewis on fri 7 may 04
Dear Lou,
Make your plate float.
Arrange the background on a horizontal surface, then rest the plate
in best position on a block so that it is also horizontal and sit it
on the mount. Mount your camera above with the lens pointing
vertically downward aimed at the centre of the plate. Arrange your
illumination to the best advantage then "Shoot"
Might take some time to set up but you may get the result you are
seeking.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis. Redhill, South Australia
Tony Ferguson on mon 7 jan 08
Ok, for some odd reason this is not working. If you cut and past the link into the browser if works fine.
Tony
Tony Ferguson wrote: Dale,
Your link was not fully active/complete. Here it is buddy:
http://www.daleneese.com/portfolio/images/plates300%20(2).jpg
T.
Dale Neese wrote: There is a taped up hard fire brick behind this plate. I will ship my new
"plate holder" for $19.95 each, but if you act now, we will send you........
http://www.daleneese.com/portfolio/images/plates300%20(2).jpg
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas USA
www.daleneese.com
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MEL JACOBSON on mon 7 jan 08
whomever invents a stationary plate holder
for photos will make some money.
i use a piece of railroad track and white/tack.
blue tack shows.
it is still a pain the butt.
i curse every time i photograph platters.
it is always a balancing act.
mel
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on mon 7 jan 08
Hi Mel,
What is it supposed to do exactly?
Hold-a-plate...how? So no hint of what is holding it is visible form the
front?
Phil
l v
----- Original Message -----
From: "MEL JACOBSON"
> whomever invents a stationary plate holder
> for photos will make some money.
>
> i use a piece of railroad track and white/tack.
> blue tack shows.
>
> it is still a pain the butt.
> i curse every time i photograph platters.
> it is always a balancing act.
> mel
May Luk on mon 7 jan 08
Hello all;
It doesn't take much to hand build a shape that is bottom heavy to hold a plate for photography. I used to have a toothbrush holder that I put a bag of rice (pennies, nails, whatever) in the bottom for weight and some plastic clay to hold that top bit of the plate. Blue tac is better, of course. Before that I used a jar of water once and it was a disaster when I knocked it over.
I thought y'all like to build your own tools. :-p
May
William & Susan Schran User on mon 7 jan 08
On 1/7/08 2:17 PM, "MEL JACOBSON" wrote:
> whomever invents a stationary plate holder
> for photos will make some money.
What about a stick with big suction cup on the end sticking out
horizontally, like magicians do when they levitate people, except they don't
use the suction cup...
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
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Dale Neese on mon 7 jan 08
There is a taped up hard fire brick behind this plate. I will ship my new
"plate holder" for $19.95 each, but if you act now, we will send you........
http://www.daleneese.com/portfolio/images/plates300%20(2).jpg
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas USA
www.daleneese.com
Tony Ferguson on mon 7 jan 08
Dale,
Your link was not fully active/complete. Here it is buddy:
http://www.daleneese.com/portfolio/images/plates300%20(2).jpg
T.
Dale Neese wrote: There is a taped up hard fire brick behind this plate. I will ship my new
"plate holder" for $19.95 each, but if you act now, we will send you........
http://www.daleneese.com/portfolio/images/plates300%20(2).jpg
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas USA
www.daleneese.com
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